On Thu, 3 May 2001, Jason Cunliffe wrote:
I'm pleased to announce you the Zope Shell version 0.001.
That is beautiful!!
Thanks a lot ! I've desesperatly searched for something like that on zope.org this morning but without luck, so I've written my own :-) I was surprised to not find anything similar.
Using 'ls' in Zope makes one thing about what it is in new ways.. its an interesting paradigm mapping. It would be nice to show depth and complexity via 'ls'
Similar to ls -la etc..
it was just a first shot. expect it to be more complex/powerful soon.
Piping would be cool..
YES it would !
'grep' would be lovely too
yes but without re it will be either difficult or not powerful. I suppose I'll recode all in a Python Zope product, which wouls solve the problem.
Now playing with your new shell really makes me wonder serisouly about Zope interpreter. One can use python to but not at the same time as Zope is running. So I gguess the reick woudl be to harness the two ideas. Youtrs is cool becuae the semantic is well understood [up to a point] In zope it takes a long time to gather a familiar consistent vocabulary, and it still lacks the concise simplicity of shellscripts.
I wonder if there if there's some meaningful way to integrate your 'jaxml' code into all this. So that one can create xml on the fly inside of the environemnt it is describing. I have played with jaml a little as a means to create Zopescripts and then tested with various XML parsing tools in Zope.
Not done that yet, but was thinking to do something like an AutoXMLDocument with jaxml (http://cortex.unice.fr/~jerome/jaxml/), a document which creates its own tags on demand.
It is very boring to click on all those 'OK' buttons and watch the HTML
YES it is, that's why I've made the previous feature request yesterday, and coded ZopeShell today.
screen keep redrawing. Sitting with potential clients for Zopesites really brings this home, I notice that what one really wants to do is take a few lines of compact code and immediately generate the named folders with simple properties, and dummy dethods/documents etc. Saves lots of Time add and very useful templating and Zope design asset.
I think we need some basic zshell commands: the five following commands already work: ls to list objects cp to copy objects mv to move objects (which should work to rename things too but doesn't yet) rm to delete objects cd (should a cd to a non ObjectManager object be allowed ? probably yes if we want to use grep on its contents ;-) it would be very nice to have: grep to search in objects contents cut (not the Unix cut command, think about cut&paste) copy paste id (return the id of the current object) title (return the title of the current object) prop return some or all properties for the current object (id and title are just shortcuts) chmod to change permissions takeown to take ownership, since changing it is impossible AFAIK view to view the object edit to edit it tab to access a specific tab for the object (view and edit are just shortcuts) find to search for objects Some things to also have: piping wildcards the use of '.' or preferably '->' (no confusion with some ids) to access objects' attributes e.g.: grep foo *->someproperty would search for string 'foo' in all objects's property named someproperty. And somewhere in the future: if and for !!! Any comments or more commands needed ? Feel free to send them. I'm curently reorganising zshell's source, expect something more complete soon. bye, and thanks for the feedback. Jerome Alet