Stephen Pitts wrote:
On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 12:01:04PM -0600, Jim Sanford wrote:
I personally just write the raw dtml/html code in the Zope management interface, but that is me (I have a knack for languages, spoken and computer, - had military training in 2 (Vietnamese and Russian) and have picked up a bagful of computer languages over the years. HTML, JavaScript, Zope(DTML) and Python being the latest)
I have tried using a GUI to design a page and then convert it to DTML manually, but I have found that most GUIs produce really "fat" code and don't like it.
Seconded. I remember an instance where I created a rather large table (200 rows) with Frontpage. The HTML file was > 100k. I looked at the file in a text editor, and it using a whole lot of extraneous <FONT> tags, etc. I just cleaned up a page written with Netscape Composer. Ugh! That code was nasty!
I used to do that do. Nowadays, If I use a gui tool of any sort for a starting point, it is amaya or bluefish. I found that it was taking more time to clean the html than to just write proper html to begin with. ...
After that, we outline the content that will be in each section and start doing them. I normally write some ZClass Products as needed beforehand but then we jump right into a RAD design cycle. Every section goes through several revisions until we are both satisfied. I write raw DTML into Zope, but then again, HTML makes sense to me :-)
I do this 98% of the time. Th eonly time I use an actual editor is when the constructs might get hairy. Bill Anderson. -- In flying I have learned that carelessness and overconfidence are usually far more dangerous than deliberately accepted risks. -- Wilbur Wright in a letter to his father, September 1900