[ZWeb] Re: IA for zope.org
seb bacon
seb@jamkit.com
03 Apr 2002 16:23:07 +0100
Can't do that.
Howe about either 12EST on Thurs, or any time Friday?
seb
On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 21:42, Paul Everitt wrote:
>
> No problem, there will be more chances at chatting this week.
>
> Olivier, Lennart, and I had a productive chat, which I'm sure will give
> us all a new round of optimism. I have the log and I'm writing up the
> stuff we settled on. Lennart did a lot of work to consolidate the
> various ideas on section layout. In the next few hours I'll post
> something back here with a narrative.
>
> It appears that all of the people active in this effort, except me, are
> in Europe. Perhaps we should plan the next IRC to be earlier in the
> day. How about 10AM Eastern on Thursday (4PM in France)?
>
> --Paul
>
> seb bacon wrote:
> > Paul, others,
> >
> > I'm afraid I only got your mail at the end of our working day. As it
> > happens, I prodded Max today too, and he's promised some action :-)
> >
> > I am very busy of course, but I am totally committed to making this
> > work. I've already put a lot of effort into it and I share your
> > frustration with trying to get people to respond. If ever a thread
> > starts up about 'what's wrong with the community' (the last of which was
> > partly my attempt to get some response out of people), there's always a
> > load of feedback, but when it comes to action, everything stalls.
> >
> > We should have a meeting, but perhaps we could do this tomorrow?
> > (12:00EST is OK with me).
> >
> > seb
> >
> >>
> >> Crap, only two responses to this (Olivier and Lennart). While I
> >> realize everyone is pretty busy (as I have been for the last four
> >> weeks), it has also been months since we kicked off this community
> >> effort to improve zope.org.
> >>
> >> I'd like to reemphasize my desire to make progress this week.
> >>
> >> Lennart, Olivier, MaxM, Seb, or others -- do you have time for an IRC
> >> appointment today at 12:00 eastern? Duration: 45 minutes. Agenda:
> >> answer and finalize the initial round of IA questions and plan mockups.
> >>
> >> For those of you that can't be available on such short notice, you'll
> >> get another chance or two this week to participate.
> >>
> >> --Paul
> >>
> >> Paul wrote:
> >>
> >>>> In the note below, Lennart refines what MaxM proposed as an IA.
> >>>> Lennart's note was 26 days ago, which is plenty of time for debate. I
> >>>> propose that we adopt its structure and intent, and declare the basic
> >>>> approach of the IA to be settled enough to take the next steps.
> >>>>
> >>>> We also had a round of design mockups along with vote collecting,
> >>>> courtesy of Olivier and IngeniWeb. Since the highest vote-getter also
> >>>> happens to be the one I like the most, I propose that we focus on
> >>>> it. :^)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thus, I believe we can move to the next phase. On the IA side, I'd
> >>>> like
> >>>> to work with MaxM and Lennart to get final agreement on the
> >>>> specifics of
> >>>> each axis, and with Olivier to have this reflected into a Plone skin.
> >>>>
> >>>> I propose that we have a zope.org day sometime next week, where we have
> >>>> some dedicated IRC time. We can have a session in the morning (for
> >>>> Europeans) and in the afternoon (for west coast people).
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we are close to concluding an important step!
> >>>>
> >>>> --Paul
> >>>>
> >>>> Lennart Regebro wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I wouldn't mind having two different paths to the content, one
> >>>>> according
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> to
> >>>
> >>>>> type, and one on the intended audience. It would require two separate
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> menus,
> >>>
> >>>>> and to make it clear that they are unrelated one should in that
> >>>>> case be
> >>>>> organized vertically and one horizontally. Something like this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----------------
> >>>>> BIG
> >>>>> ZOPE Newbies Webmasters Developers Members Search
> >>>>> LOGO
> >>>>>
> >>>>> News
> >>>>> Documentation
> >>>>> How-To's
> >>>>> Technical features
> >>>>> The Zope Book
> >>>>> Books in print
> >>>>> Download
> >>>>> Newest Zope
> >>>>> Latest beta
> >>>>> Featured products
> >>>>> Products
> >>>>> Community
> >>>>> Members
> >>>>> Mailing list
> >>>>> Archives
> >>>>> ------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Under "Newbies" you would find things like:
> >>>>> Introduction/What is Zope
> >>>>> Getting started
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Under Webmasters:
> >>>>> DTML-Manual (ie direct link to the relevant parts of the Zope book, I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> guess)
> >>>
> >>>>> ZPT-manuals (------"-------)
> >>>>> Most popular products
> >>>>> Frequently asked questions
> >>>>> Join the zope-list
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Under Developers:
> >>>>> Getting started with ZClasses
> >>>>> Setting up a good python development environment
> >>>>> ZClasses manual
> >>>>> Developers manual
> >>>>> Join the zope-list
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Under Members:
> >>>>> Join
> >>>>> Login
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Under Search:
> >>>>> Possibility to search only how-tos, only products and so on...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do see a difference between "webmasters" and "developers", ie
> >>>>> between
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>>> people that create sites and the people that create products. Maybe
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> difference doesn't really exist, but I do think that there is a huge
> >>>>> difference between these two things, and it would be quite possible to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> split
> >>>
> >>>>> this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org
> >>>>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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