[Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!

[David H]

Jonathan wrote:

> To pour fuel on the flames...
>  
> +1 DTML
> -1 ZPT
>  
> Why...
>  
> 1) For 'quick and dirty' demos and rapid application prototyping DTML 
> does the trick (yes, even including ZClasses), it is fast, easy, 
> reasonably robust and it works!
>  
> 2) For 'heavy lifting' (ie. intense computation, high loads, etc.) I 
> prefer a 'product' approach.
>  
> 3) For client-side functionality/control I prefer an AJAX approach 
> using a combination of javascript/HTML/XHTML/XHTML-MP plus server-side 
> python scripts/external methods/products.
>  
> ZPT is a bit of a hybrid which increases overhead and doesn't really 
> bring any new functionality to the table (for my applications and 
> environment).  Yes, for separating (well, mostly separating) content 
> from display formatting ZPT is one possible solution, but the divorce 
> of content and presentation is better achieved with an AJAX type of 
> approach.
>  
> I think Zope beginners would be better off using DTML (easier to 
> learn, user's get quicker results and therefore have more satisfaction 
> with Zope as a development platform), and then 'serious' development 
> should be done using an AJAX approach with Zope 3 - the way of the 
> future imho :-)
>  
> If we had to make a choice for the future I would prefer Zope 2 + DTML 
> and Zope 3 + AJAX (and consign ZPT to the 'good idea at the time' 
> bin).  Possibly, in the distant future, AJAX utilities/ides will exist 
> which will make rapid prototyping and 'quick & dirty' demos feasible, 
> in which case Zope 2 + DTML could fade into happy history.
>  
> Just my 1-1/2 cents.
>  
>  
> Jonathan
>  
>
>     ----- Origin
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Think about it:  we argue about Z Classes vs DTML vs ZPT + python 
scripts vs Products.  Its all good.

Zope + 1
 
:-)

David


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