Zope December 1999

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<code> tag?
by Mike Winter 24 May '00

24 May '00

Hi, just a quick question: how do you get Zope to display DTML without evaluating it? -- Mike Winter | mfw127(a)mail.usask.ca U. of S: 966-4759 TR Labs: 668-9323

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FYI: Zope Weekly News
by Mike Pelletier 23 May '00

23 May '00

G'day, Zope Weekly News is a digest of some of the useful and interesting events which have occurred on the various Zope mailing lists and the Zope.org site. It is published each Wednesday evening. New Products and Announcements * Paul Everitt announces Sybase support in a joint press release. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013946.html http://www.digicool.com/News/Sybase * "Zen" released ZRadius, a product which allows you to authenticate web users via the Radius authentication protocol. http://www.zope.org/Members/Zen/ZRadius * Anthony Pfrunder announces VisualZope 0.1a. From his web page: Basically, the "goal" of VZ is to provide a SIMPLE visual editing system for graphic designers which works cross-browser and takes advantage of the acquisition and role systems within Zope. What follows is a brief description of the components which make up the final VZ system (probably more accurate than previous posts). http://163.182.196.200/zwiki/VisualZope * Jeff Sheldon has started a weblog of his experiences with Zope. Jeff Sheldon is new to Zope, and is not a professional programmer. His weblog is a valuable resource to those also starting out with Zope. http://weblogs.userland.com/zopeNewbies/stories/storyReader$0 Updates * Zope 2.1.0 beta 2 has been released. This release includes fixes for issues found in beta 1, an updated load_site.py script and Martijn Pieters' patches to implement try/except/else and try/finally in DTML. Unless something major comes up, this will be the final beta before 2.1.0 final. http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.1.0b2/ * "4am" has submitted an update to his PythonMethod product. It allows methods, written in Python, to be created via the Zope web management interface. http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/PythonMethod * "Drew" contributed an update to his Photo product. It generates thumbnail views of images at the user's preferred size. Requires PIL. http://www.zope.org/Members/Drew/Photo * Itamar Shtull-Trauring announced ZCache v0.2. ZCache is a Python Product which allows you to cache expensive methods, taking strain off your server. It also generates 'Last-Modified' headers, aiding browser and proxy caches. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/014115.html http://www.zope.org/Members/itamar/ZCache Zope.org items * "Zen" submitted a tip he picked up from Michel Pelletier. He explains how volatile attributes work, and how to populate them when your object is loaded from the database. Volatile attributes are attributes which do not get written to the database, and are good for data which changes frequently. http://www.zope.org/Members/Zen/tips/VolatileAttributes * "AlexR" submitted a How-To detailing the use of the DTML entity syntax. "DTML entities" are chunks of DTML which look like this: "&dtml-title_or_id;" http://www.zope.org/Members/AlexR/EntitySyntax Notable Discussions * DTML is a HUGE topic this week. Discussions spill across several lists. A very good job is done of identifying DTML's weak points. Many hold that the difficulty in using DTML comes from it's roots as a reporting language-- it isn't supposed to be used for logic. The problem is, there isn't yet an easy replacement for DTML as a programming language. Python Methods are cited as an excellent start on providing a means of moving logic out of DTML. Christopher Petrilli mentions that DC is looking at grooming Python Methods for inclusion in Zope. Others feel that reporting vs. programming is a forced distinction, and that it is awkward to have to use two different solutions. The claim that generating HTML is actually a rather complex task, and the powerful but ugly features of DTML are a necessary evil. DTML is compared to Perl! <gasp!> Otherwise, lots of very useful tips for using DTML are revealed. An excellent read for DTML beginners and wizards alike. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013710.html http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/1999-November/002088.html http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/1999-November/002102.html * Darcy Clark alerts the list of Jon Udell's latest article mentioning Zope. Jon's article discusses the ease of using Zope with Windows databases, the pain of using it with Unix databases, cheers ODBC, and jeers lack of a similar magic bullet for Unix. The thread then continues to discuss the relative merits of various free databases and using them with Zope. http://www.byte.com/column/BYT19991104S0001 http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013711.html Also, Karl Fast does an excellent job of summarising the thread, generating more sage comments. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013762.html http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013812.html http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013813.html http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013840.html * Francois-Regis CHALAOUX posed a question about using Zope with virtual hosting. Several useful responses were generated. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013678.html http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013688.html * Ben Galbraith submitted a comparison of Zope and Cold Fusion and solicited comments. Some of the usual suspects offer theirs. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013730.html * Otto Hammersmith started a thread about Zope and security. In it, he speaks of some of the security pitfalls that unsuspecting Zope users could experience. Brian Lloyd submits some solutions. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013779.html * Paul Everitt wrote in to remind us that there is a zope-dev(a)zope.org list for technical discussions. A brisk discussion developed to debate what constituted a technical discussion. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013796.html * Theodore Patrick launched a lengthy thread with questions about the effect of threading in Zope. A number of folks from Digital Creations provide answers. The discussion moves on with high volume and content to the topics of benchmarking and performance tuning Zope. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/013808.html * Farzad Farid revives the uncacheable image thread. Because Acquisition can lead to different URLs being generated for images when viewed from different locations, it makes caching difficult and can generate excessive traffic. Others offer advice to solve this problem. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-November/014021.html * David Harrison asks zope-dev how to return an image generated on-the-fly by an External Method. Answers found. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/1999-November/002107.html Mike Pelletier

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Passwd doesn't take
by Xeno Campanoli 17 Jan '00

17 Jan '00

I seem to have zope running on my Debian/Linux workstation as follows: 1 3502 3502 3502 ? -1 S 0 0:00 python /usr/sbin/zope-z2 3502 3503 3502 3502 ? -1 S 33 0:14 /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/zope-z2 and I get prompted for the password when I give the following URI to netscape: http://localhost:8080/manage but I give my name and password (which I think is correct because after it failed the first time I changed it with:asp:/usr/lib/zope# ./zpasswd.py ~zopepasswdfile Username [superuser]: Xeno Password: Verify password: Please choose a format from: SHA - SHA-1 hashed password CRYPT - UNIX-style crypt password CLEARTEXT - no protection. Encoding [SHA]: Allowed domains [enter=all]: ...and after it rejected the password and I hit cancel, it said: Zope Error Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. Unauthorized You are not authorized to access this resource. Troubleshooting Suggestions The URL may be incorrect. The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect. A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error. For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML source for this page. If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for your patience. And so I'm stuck. I think I have a valid install, as I went through all the standard dpkg -i install packages to get there, and the thing runs and stayed in memory for about a day now. I'm hoping this is a simple problem with the way I'm setting the password, or the way I'm specifying the URI to netscape. Can somebody make a suggestion or tell me where to read? Thanks.

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how to capture a password
by Cornelis J. de Brabander 17 Jan '00

17 Jan '00

I have a zope powered site that uses basic authentication. In addition to the acl_users folder I have a database with user information, like name data and email address. Within this setup I want to give the user the opportunity to have his/her password sent by email in case (s)he has forgotten. How can I solve this problem within the current setup. I can't find a method that delivers a user's password and I fear it does not exist. Cornelis J. de Brabander

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Submitting a patch for a DA?
by Timothy Grant 09 Jan '00

09 Jan '00

Hi, Never thought I would get the privilege of doing this... As some of you may have seen, I have been requesting help for the PostgreSQL DA, I didn't get any help, so I finally figured out that maybe no one new the answer. I went digging through the DA and think I have solved my problem. Now I have a two part question: 1. How do I submit a patch (I've never done it before)? 2. To whom do I submit the patch? Thanks. -- Stand Fast, tjg. Timothy Grant tjg(a)exceptionalminds.com Chief Technology Officer www.exceptionalminds.com Red Hat Certified Engineer office (503) 246-3630 Avalon Technology Group, Inc. fax (503) 246-3124 >>>>>>>>>>Exceptional Minds, Innovative Products<<<<<<<<<<

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Session Management
by Timothy Grant 03 Jan '00

03 Jan '00

Hi, I guess I don't understand session management, and need some help. I'm using the FSSession tool and have things configured like this: Root/ SubFolder1 SubFolder2 SubFolder3 FSSession index_html index_html initializes the FSSession object. The docs say I should just put it in my standard_html_header, but if it gets rexecuted I get an error message, so I put it in index_html using the following: <dtml-unless "_.has_key('FSSession')"> <dtml-call FSSession> </dtml-unless> This appears to work very nicely, as I make extensive use of it in SubFolder1. However, I found a need to display a form in SubFolder2 from SubFolder1 and use a session key that was set in SubFolder1. It didn't work, I couldn't figure out why until I printed the FSSession object while using the SubFolder2 form. It was empty. I guess I don't understand this, the FSSession object is in the root folder, it is initialized in my index_html in the root folder, why doesn't SubFolder2 inherit the FSSession from the root? Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. -- Stand Fast, tjg. Chief Technology Officer tjg(a)exceptionalminds.com Red Hat Certified Engineer www.exceptionalminds.com Avalon Technology Group, Inc. (503) 246-3630 >>>>>>>>>>>>EXCEPTIONAL MINDS, INNOVATIVE PRODUCTS<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Re: [Zope] ZDiscussions & SiteAccess
by Tres Seaver 03 Jan '00

03 Jan '00

tonyr(a)ep.newtimes.com wrote: > > Has anyone else been attempting to use ZDiscussions in conjunction with > SiteAccess? > > Here is the problem I am having: > > Problem Description: > -------------------- > When I add discussion item from Virtual Hosted URLs the discussion item > adds to discussion but ZDiscussions.children() method returns None for > those items. This is not the case for items added via non VirtualHosted > URLs, same discussion just different access path. > > When I add ZDiscussion Items via VirtualHost the items appear to be > there in the /manage screens but yet the children function shows None > for each of these thus the ZDiscussion index_html is all messed up. > > Upon further investigation the culprit appears to be the ablolute_url > function in conjunction with SiteAccess and ZCatalog. The entries in > ZCatalog show: > /feedback/1999-12-16/film.html for the "broken" entries done via > VirtualHost > /city/feedback/1999-12-16/film.html for the functional entries > > Upon still fruther investigation this problems also accures in the > ZCache product when used under SiteAccess. > > Does anyone have any ideas? I really am trying to make this work. > When I rewrite URL's from Apache into Zope and use ZCatalog, I have to prepend "&dtml-SCRIPT_NAME;/" to the absolute_url() path to get it to work (see the HowTo at http://www.zope.org/Members/tseaver/catalog_under_apache). I don't know exactly how this will work with the SiteAccess stuff, but I would guess that you will need to use something like it. -- ========================================================= Tres Seaver tseaver(a)palladion.com 713-523-6582 Palladion Software http://www.palladion.com

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RE: [Zope] installation
by Rob Page 03 Jan '00

03 Jan '00

Milos Prudek wrote: > I can't go to management screen with superuser passwd. I'm > using correct name and passwd (as specified in access file), but Zope says > "Unauthorized. You are not authorized to access this resource." > > I'm using apache. No useful info in Apache's log's, pcgi.log and > zope.log. Zope.cgi has been copied to apache cgi-bin dir. Apache has > correct rewrite rule configuration as per WEBSERVER.txt. This is Zope > 2.0.1 rpm. I also tried Zope 2.1.1 sources with same result. > Please help > me... I'm no expert Apache and authorization but this _looks_ like the rewrite rule is not juuust right. I'd triple check it. --Rob

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Problems of using Navigator products
by cfkwok_hknet 01 Jan '00

01 Jan '00

Hi, I am trying to use the Navigator product in a Zope server. I use the navigator_demo/simple_demo as a starting point. However, when I add a NavItem under the navbar, it seems that renderItem can not detect the new added items and nothing changed in the navigator bar. What is the right procedure to add a NavItem? Thanks! C.F.Kwok

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Zope crashing
by Steve Froggatt 31 Dec '99

31 Dec '99

Hi all I have a problem with zope crashing. Every now and again it is impossible to start zope, sometimes I have to run it in the forground to get it to work, but when I try to access the web site through a browser an error comes up on the server (linux) stateing Quota exceeded. Please, Please Help... What further information do you require. Steve

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Zope December 1999