March 1999 - Zope - Zope lists

Re: [Zope] Why do I have to reimport External Methods ?
by James A. Hillyerd 21 Mar '99

21 Mar '99

On Sat, 20 Mar 1999, Jeff Bauer wrote: > "James A. Hillyerd" wrote: > > If I do have to continue the shutdown/restart process, is > > there any way of tuning PCGI so that it loads up faster? > > In the pcgi/Util directory, you'll find a killpcgi.py > script. You could hack it to perform a restart, i.e. > launch a new pcgi process after killing the old one. > This would speed up your initial connect time and be > much faster during debugging (multiple restarts). > But wouldn't that kill the Zope process instead of having it shut itself down? How gracefully does Zope exit when receiving a SIGTERM? > Best regards, > > Jeff Bauer > Rubicon, Inc. > [] James A. Hillyerd <jamesh(a)altavista.net> Java Developer [] HyperGlyphics: http://www.hyperglyphics.com/ [] GPG Public Key Fingerprint for 1024D/9F956CDE (Expires 2000-02-01): [] C86F B073 92DF 1E24 EF0B 0118 6061 0FEC 9F95 6CDE

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Re: [Zope] Why do I have to reimport External Methods ?
by Jeff Bauer 20 Mar '99

20 Mar '99

"James A. Hillyerd" wrote: > If I do have to continue the shutdown/restart process, is > there any way of tuning PCGI so that it loads up faster? In the pcgi/Util directory, you'll find a killpcgi.py script. You could hack it to perform a restart, i.e. launch a new pcgi process after killing the old one. This would speed up your initial connect time and be much faster during debugging (multiple restarts). Best regards, Jeff Bauer Rubicon, Inc.

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Why do I have to reimport External Methods ?
by Maik Roeder 20 Mar '99

20 Mar '99

Hi all ! I am new to Zope, and I have a problem with External Methods. Everytime I change the implementation of my file in Extensions/test.py I have to reimport the External Method to see the changes. What am I doing wrong ? I just want the changes I made to the source code to be reflected when I reload a page ! I hope someone can explain what I am doing wrong here. Maik Röder Some more details: I have a folder called VMBI and an external method test in it. Everything works just fine, the index_html file has a call to the external method, which just prints "Hello World!"  So the following URL http://localhost:9673/VMBI/test prints Hello World ! But when I change the original source code to print for example Hello Zope ! Then upon reloading the web page http://localhost:9673/VMBI/test there still is printed Hello World ! What's going on here ?

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RE: [Zope] Web Application Software
by Theodore Patrick 20 Mar '99

20 Mar '99

<NOTE>I do not know much about btrieve.</NOTE> <btrieve> If you can make btrieve a data source you are home free. All you need is the connector/drivers. http://www.zope.org/Download/Adapters Also look into: http://www.python.org/download/Contributed.html#Database Typically these modules make there way into zope as they are existing python modules. Actually I would gather that Btrieve has a c interface that would make a great product. </btrieve> <dev> As with all projects .... it depends. Using attributes is the key to zope. If you take advantage of its ability to store session variables Zope is far better than other solutions because you do not need a database to store info during a transaction, you can simply write it to an attribute in zope thus lowering the # database calls. I guess the implementation depends on allot of variables that were not listed in your email. 1. # of concurrent users 2. # of queries and "How databasy is the application? Big Queries? OnChange?" 3. Specifics on your data model 4. # of tasks required 5. How OO(Object Oriented) are you? It is a difficult concept to cover but developmental access to ZOPE is remote by nature. Anything you can do in Zope is accessible anywhere, by anyone else. Except for installing modules and products, you do not need machine access ---> Everything is done online and inside of Zope. It is convenient that way. Look into the bug collector for the ZOPE site. It allows many levels of access to the bug database except there is not database just Ztables. It might be just the ticket. http://www.zope.org/Collector Also take a look at the example folder here http://www.zope.org/Download/Contrib Specifically the DTML EXAMPLE FOLDER --> IT WILL GIVE YOU LOTS O' CODE and HINTS </dev> Just think in OO and Zope will work. Best of luck. Theodore E. Patrick email: tpatrick(a)indigonetworks.com <mailto:tpatrick@indigonetworks.com> phone: 615-777-0070 ext.125 Indigo Networks - The Ultimate Choice In Who Sees You. http://www.indigonetworks.com -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Suto [mailto:ben@amvalue.com] Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 3:22 PM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] Web Application Software I wonder just how robust Zope is. I am writing an internal application for a tour operator that I work for. Right now, I'm considering the software for a group quote program that will allow people on the Intranet or people travelling abroad with the groups to add or edit services on a complete group package. The kicker is that we need to access some btrieve files that are part of another accounting package that needs to be tied into this. Assuming I figure a way around the btrieve packages, is Zope robust enough to handle an application like this? All I've seen so far are shopping cart programs, but this would be much more complex. Are there any references to any pointers or any such information about just what Zope can do? I haven't been able to glean as much as I wanted from the site. Ben _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Re: [Zope] ZServer licensing
by Simon Michael 20 Mar '99

20 Mar '99

Christopher Petrilli <petrilli(a)amber.org> writes: > probably corret the exact legal situation, but basically DC bought an > unlimited license to give it away ... say thank you :-) they *bought* it ? really ?

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Status of Collector?
by Joe Van Andel 20 Mar '99

20 Mar '99

I see that the bug report and feature request lists are implemented using the "Collector". What's the status of this? 1) Is it shipped with ZOPE 1.10.2? (I couldn't find it) 2) Is it purchased from Digital Creations? Thanks much. Joe VanAndel Internet: vanandel(a)ucar.edu National Center for http://www.atd.ucar.edu/~vanandel/home.html Atmospheric Research

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ZServer licensing
by Tom Jenkins 20 Mar '99

20 Mar '99

Hello all, Since ZServer is based on Medusa, does a commercial enterprise have to pay the $200/computer license? Or is ZServer released under a true Open Source license (somehow)? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tom Jenkins DevIS (http://www.devis.com) Can the denizens of this group enlighten me about what the advantages of Python are, versus Perl? "python" is more likely to pass unharmed through your spelling checker than "perl". An unknown poster and Fredrik Lundh, 11 Sep 1998

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Re: [Zope] IRC channel
by Simon Michael 19 Mar '99

19 Mar '99

Fredy Villa <FVilla(a)GestaltTechnology.com> writes: > irc.cs.cmu.edu doesn't require it, last I checked. I get: [info] Connecting to irc.cs.cmu.edu port 6667... {irc.cs.cmu.edu} *** Looking up your hostname... {irc.cs.cmu.edu} *** Checking Ident {irc.cs.cmu.edu} *** Found your hostname [info] Not enough parameters: Not enough parameters [info] You have not registered

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RE: [Zope] ZServer licensing
by Paul Everitt 19 Mar '99

19 Mar '99

Simon wrote: > Christopher Petrilli <petrilli(a)amber.org> writes: > > probably corret the exact legal situation, but basically DC > bought an > > unlimited license to give it away ... say thank you :-) > > they *bought* it ? really ? We reached a mutually agreeable arrangement whereby Medusa could become the core for our object publishing system, under the Zope license. Definately turned out to be a win-win-win (Sam, DC, and Zope). --Paul

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RE: [Zope] OT: A petition condemning non-standard compliance in I E5
by Paul Everitt 19 Mar '99

19 Mar '99

Michael wrote: > Paul wrote: > > I love the "I'm not asking as Mr. Mega Big-wig, nor as My. > Hyper Star, > > I'm asking as a humble guy that singlehandedly saved the web" part. > > That paragraph is so pathetic, I can't believe he actually wrote it. > > Ooh, that is so harsh, dude. :^) OK, I agree, and I ought to just focus on his words rather than on him. Public retraction on the personal stuff, BUT I absolutely stand behind taking offense at the words. If you're going to lead an offensive based on principal, make the self-aggrandizement a bit more subtle. Hmm, didn't turn out to be much of a retraction. :^) --Paul

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