March 1999 - Zope - Zope lists

RE: [Zope] Is a JPython implemention within the realm of possibil ity?
by Paul Everitt 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

Bern wrote: > I am wondering if it is within the realm of possibility that the Zope > project might eventually support operation as a Java program > (under JPython) > in addition to operation under traditional Python. I know it > would probably > be a large undertaking and that there may well be better > places to spend > precious energy, but I thought I'd register my interest in > the prospect. This was one of the things that I hoped to see by going Open Source. So far there have been ports to operating systems that we just wouldn't have supported, which is a great to see. I'm intrigued by someone that really knows Java picking up a JZope effort. As for Digital Creations, I doubt you'll see us focus on it unless one of our consulting customers requires it. Same old story -- never enought time :^( --Paul Paul Everitt Digital Creations paul(a)digicool.com 540.371.6909

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RE: [Zope] Is a JPython implemention within the realm of possibil ity?
by Michel Pelletier 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bern McCarty [mailto:Bern.McCarty@bentley.com] > Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 2:15 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Is a JPython implemention within the realm of > possibility? > > > > I am wondering if it is within the realm of possibility that the Zope > project might eventually support operation as a Java program > (under JPytho <snip> > So > here's hoping we'll one day see Z-over-P-over-J. > I am not the expert about this, but: Zope is written entirely in Python, except for a few 'kernel' like components written in C. If you translate these components into Java, you might just have something there. I'm not a Java guy so I have no real idea. > Yeah. I know it would have to be slower. >From what Ken was telling me JPython is actually quite well designed and speedy, even for a Java program. :) If you've commited yourself to Java then I assume you've allready resigned yourself to the performance penalty and are considering it in your engineering goals. Performance may not be your primary goal in the first place. > > Zope looks cool. Oh it is. > > Bern McCarty > -Michel > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >

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RE: [Zope] Zope and Apache - again
by Paul Everitt 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

> If it works - is there someone that can say exactly how > apache should be > configured and compiled to get it working (best of all also > put in a working > httpd.conf also)? We'd prefer that you start with the Zap distribution, as it removes a whole bunch of variables. Can you tell us what was the error with using Zap? --Paul

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NotMail 0.0.5 alpha release
by Michel Pelletier 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

Greetings Zopesters, I have been working on a little pet Zope Product project for months now. Getting hired at digicool put the brakes on it a little but I have finally gotten the time to polish it up a bit for alpha release. Check out: http://starship.python.net:9673/crew/furtrapper/NotMail for NotMail. NotMail is a clone of 'other' popular web-mail interfaces. Please download and evaluate. But first a word of warning: NotMail is alpha. It is being released with the intention of harvesting other developers who are interesting in breaking it, fixing it, and improving it. Although it is a cool program, it is unstable (try pointing it at Exchange!) and not complete. I have tried to document it in code as much as possible, and it does contain a nice README.txt. You are expected to be able to infer the workings of NotMail by the source, or by telepathy, whatever. If NotMail makes your hard drive partition go bye-bye or makes your imap server think it's a dhcp server that's the way the cookie crumbles. Okay, now a word of license: NotMail is released under the GNU General Public License. Give yourself a piece of mind and send the Free Software Foundation a donation. You'd do it for NPR wouldn't you? Now a kind word about Digital Creations: Digicool has been kind enough to let me waste a small fraction of my time to release this today. They also let me use their computer to check my personal mail, etc. Please don't infer that because I work for Digicool that NotMail is a product of Digital Creations. Please do not submit NotMail bugs to the Collector or send reports to support(a)digicool.com. These things are for Zope and other Digicool products. It is ok to discuss it in the list but I'd prefer all discussion happen using the cool Confera discussion that can be found in the same place you can get NotMail. Regards, Michel

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RE: [Zope] ZMySQLDA installation
by Shaw, Howard 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

You need to install python... Or adjust the Makefile.pre.in to look at Zope's internal python, instead of trying to find the external one. Actually, from a quick runthrough of the Makefile.pre.in, you should set the enviroment variable PYTHON to point to the local python binary; I mean the one internal to zope, like PYTHON=/home/zope/bin/python export PYTHON (in bash) or setenv PYTHON /home/zope/bin/python (in tcsh) ... (and no I am not quite certain on the syntax here). The 'make -f Makefile.pre.in boot' appears to call $(PYTHON) with parameters that cause it to return the proper location for the python configuration files, etc. Good luck. > ---------- > From: Timothy Grant[SMTP:tjg@avalongroup.net] > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 5:39 PM > To: Zope Folk > Subject: [Zope] ZMySQLDA installation > > Hi all, > > This is probably more of a newbie Linux question than a newbie Zope > question, but I'm going to ask it here anyway: > > I would like to connect Zope to a database, so I have setup both > PostgreSQL and MySQL. My reading tells me that MySQL is probably the > better choice as a web backend (Any comments from those of you more > knowledgable than I would be appreciated!) So I downloaded the MySQL > source, compiled, installed and tested it. It looks like I did it > right. > I then downloaded the ZMySQLDA from the Zope site. > > I have followed the directions--I think, but get the following error > when trying to do the initial make: > > [tjg@puddleglum src]$ make -f Makefile.pre.in boot > rm -f *.o *~ > rm -f *.a tags TAGS config.c Makefile.pre python sedscript > rm -f *.so *.sl so_locations > VERSION=`python -c "import sys; print sys.version[:3]"`; \ > installdir=`python -c "import sys; print sys.prefix"`; \ > exec_installdir=`python -c "import sys; print sys.exec_prefix"`; \ > make -f ./Makefile.pre.in VPATH=. srcdir=. \ > VERSION=$VERSION \ > installdir=$installdir \ > exec_installdir=$exec_installdir \ > Makefile > make[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/local/zope/Zope-1.10.0pr1-linux2-x86/lib/pytho > n/Products/ZMySQLDA/src' > make[1]: *** No rule to make target > `/usr/lib/python1.5/config/Makefile', needed > by `sedscript'. Stop. > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/local/zope/Zope-1.10.0pr1-linux2-x86/lib/python > /Products/ZMySQLDA/src' > make: *** [boot] Error 2 > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > Stand Fast, > tjg. > =================================================== > Timothy Grant > VP Technology/CTO > Avalon Technology Group > tjg(a)avalongroup.net > www.avalongroup.net > (503) 246-3630 voice > (503) 246-3124 fax > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >

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DTML Newbie questions
by Wiebe Kunst 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

Can somebody please help me out. I've read through most of the postings to the list, but I'm still in the dark. I have defined a DTML documentproperty of type lines. Each line represents the ID of another DTML document. When using:   <BR>  I get the ID's. I tried all kinds of variations on this code (including the ones suggested by Amos) but are still unable to turn those ID's into rendered objects. Regards Wiebe Kunst

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Re: [Zope] Zope and Apache - again
by Phil Harris 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

Well the WEBSERVER.txt instructions work for me. Find attached a working httpd.conf. Also attahced is a module listing from my 'httpd'. HTH Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: <raver(a)box.dust.za.net> To: <zope(a)zope.org> Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope and Apache - again >On Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 12:28:49PM -0000, Phil Harris wrote: >> This may sound like a bit of an obvious suggestion, but it caught me out. >> >> Check the Directory directive for <apacheroot>/cgi-bin and make sure that >> the ExecCGI option is set. >> >> It should look something like this: >> >> <Directory "/www/cgi-bin"> >> AllowOverride none >> Options ExecCGi >> Order allow,deny >> Allow from all >> </Directory> >> >> Apache 1.3.4 by default doesn't have the ExecCGI option set. >> >> HTH >> >> Phil >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <raver(a)box.dust.za.net> >> To: <zope(a)zope.org> >> Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 12:22 PM >> Subject: [Zope] Zope and Apache - again >> >> > >Unfortunately the ExecCGI option didn't help much. Thanks anyways. > >I'm still stuck at the >point where I get 'Authorization failed'. I've checked and double checked my >Zope/access file and I use correct username and passwd. The filepermissions >should also be set correct (according to the instructions given in the >INSTALL.txt file). Problem is, as far as I can tell, connected to the way >the rewrite module does the rewrite.... > >Has anyone confirmed that the way the WEBSERVER.txt file says to rewrite the >authorization header actually works? > >If it works - is there someone that can say exactly how apache should be >configured and compiled to get it working (best of all also put in a working >httpd.conf also)? > >And again.....Appreciate all teh help I can get! > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >

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Re: [Zope] Zope and Apache - again
by Phil Harris 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

This may sound like a bit of an obvious suggestion, but it caught me out. Check the Directory directive for <apacheroot>/cgi-bin and make sure that the ExecCGI option is set. It should look something like this: <Directory "/www/cgi-bin"> AllowOverride none Options ExecCGi Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> Apache 1.3.4 by default doesn't have the ExecCGI option set. HTH Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: <raver(a)box.dust.za.net> To: <zope(a)zope.org> Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 12:22 PM Subject: [Zope] Zope and Apache - again >Hi all! > >I know the question has been up to debate earlier on the list, but still... > >I can't get Apache to send authorization headers on to Zope - even tough >I've tried to do what the doc/WEBSERVER.txt tells me to (tried both rewrite >and to let apache authenticate /cgi-bin/Zope/). I also grabbed the >latest Zap release, but that one din't work (broken?). Also had a look at >the zap.conf file and tried using some in my httpd.conf file, but I still >had no luck. > >Now - here is my current config: > >Linux 2.0.35 >Python 1.5.1 >Zope 1.10.2 >Apache 1.3.4 > >Something there that doesn't play well together? > >If not - what is wrong?? > >Appreciate all the help I can get! > >Sture Lygren > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >

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External / Internal Methods
by Christopher G. Petrilli 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

I vaguely recall this being discussed in the past, but I can't find it in my archives... Has anyone tried to make a comparable thing to an "External Method" but that is contained in the database itself? The reason is this... we've set up Zope on the Starship, and some people would like to experiment with ExternalMethods, BUT... that requires access on the file system to stuff that we'd rather not open up, or a hueg amount of administrative overhead. Ideas? Chris -- | Christopher Petrilli ``Television is bubble-gum for | petrilli(a)amber.org the mind.''-Frank Lloyd Wright

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inclusions from external methods
by julian＠zereau.net 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

What is the equivalent of  from an external method? --- Julian Morrison Programmer (Zereau Ltd)

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