July 2000 - Zope - Zope lists

RE: [Zope] Your feedback: what should DateTime strftime() behavio r be?
by Webmaster 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

+1 > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Lloyd [SMTP:Brian@digicool.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 11:35 AM > To: 'zope(a)zope.org' > Subject: [Zope] Your feedback: what should DateTime strftime() > behavior be? > > Hi all - > > There has recently been some confusion over the expected > behavior of various approaches to DateTime formatting in > Zope regarding timezone representation. I would like to > resolve this for the next release by making a proposal > and asking you to reply to the list with a "vote": > > +1 == agree > > +/-0 == no strong opinion > > -1 == disagree > > > So then, here is the situation. In Zope 2.2 (and earlier), > formatting a date using either: > > <dtml-var theDate fmt="%A, %B %d %Y, %H:%M:%S"> > > <dtml-var "theDate.strftime('%A, %B %d %Y, %H:%M:%S')"> > > ...would give you the date *formatted based on GMT rather than > the timezone (usually local) representation of the object*. > Simply doing: > > <dtml-var theDate> > > ...however, would print the date in the current timezone of > the datetime object. > > Many feel that this difference is unintuitive and a pain. The > proposal is that both: > > <dtml-var theDate fmt="%A, %B %d %Y, %H:%M:%S"> > > <dtml-var "theDate.strftime('%A, %B %d %Y, %H:%M:%S')"> > > ...would be changed to apply the format to the current TZ > representation of the object rather than convert to GMT. Of > course, this could be a problem if there are people currently > counting on the output being GMT, which is why we're putting it > to a vote. If this change is made for 2.2.1, those who still > wanted the output in GMT could just call the 'toZone()' method > of the datetime object to get a GMT version before formatting: > > <dtml-var "theDate.toZone('GMT').strftime('%A, %B %d %Y, %H:%M:%S')"> > > > What do you think? > > > Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com > Software Engineer 540.371.6909 > Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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ZClasses to RDBMS
by Satheesh Babu 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

Hi, Is there any recommended way to get data from ZClass instances to a corresponding RDBMS (Oracle 8i specifically) table? What I could think of as options are: (I've'nt tried out any!) 1. In manage_add for my Zclass call the corresponding ZSQL insert method - Can this be done? - What can be done for updates? 2. Create masking DTML methods to create Zclass instances dynamically. Call ZSQL methods alongside as well. 3. Do periodic downloads of ZClass instances - say XML format - and batch upload to database. Why I need this? 1. I need to make a RDBMS driven system for managing content. I don't want to use Zope's ZODB for storing important content, because of these reasons: 1. It can quickly grow up to 2GB and much more 2. It needs to store and SEARCH through binary documents (Oracle can do this easily) 3. The way site is to be build from DBMS contents has to be / can be different - ASP, PHP or Java Even a 100% static site might be a requirement. 2. I've tried with ZODB3 with data upto 500MB and it is kind of shaky (was on an NT4 server. don't ask me, if it was my decision, I would've picked up linux!). H/W: Compaq dual PIII 500MHz server with NT4, SP5 (or 6, I don't remember. The latest one). 512MB RAM and 1GB Virtual memory. With RDBMS, we've DBA's and good SQL programmers, so data recovery is much more easier. Also, I really don't need much of versioning or undo capabilities. It also brings up another solution, make an Oracle storage along the lines of Interbase storage, hook up ZCatalog to Oracle's interMedia search. Two problems - I'm little tight on time, and DCOracle's support for BLOBs are not yet tried out. I plan to start on this soon anyway. So, any suggestion for this would be greatly appreciated. Note to DC: I love Zope and I would say it is anyday better than these Java appservers, to code, to maintain and to train people. But, lack of any industry strength RDBMS storage is really a big problem in selling to suits. vsbabu(a)csoft.net http://vsbabu.csoft.net

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frustrating security problem
by joel grimes 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

I imagine this topic has been thoroughly gone over, but I didn't catch it so I'm pulling my hair out. I'm using Zope 2.2 (upgraded yesterday) on a Win98 box. I have a ZSQL Method that allows me to view data from an Access database. But when I try to create a Search Interface for that ZSQL Method, I'm asked for a login and password before I can view it and NONE of my logins work. The interface IS created and I can edit it, I just can't view it. I only have 2 users. The superuser and the one that created the ZSQL Method AND Search Interface. What am I missing? joel grimes joelgrimes(a)hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan
by Johan Carlsson 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

STIL IN SWEDISH, SORRY Hej Peter och alla andra svensk språkiga, Jag så inte ditt meddelande för än nu, men jag är intresserad. Kan vi inte forstätta diskutionerna på min svensk språkiga mailinglista (skapad mycket för just denna typ av sammarbete). För att gå med klickar du dig till: http://www.torped.se/mailman/listinfo.cgi/zope Postar gör man på: zope(a)torped.se Johan Carlsson Torped AB > > IN SWEDISH - ABOUT SWEDISH > > > > Finns det ett intresse av fler an mig att jobba med detta? > > Om, det gor det, hur manga blir vi, och hur ska vi lagga upp arbetet? > > > > Smidigast vore ju att ge deltagare access till .dtml filer, med version'ing, > > pa en och samma server. > > Syftet ar nog mest att skriva om sidor som klienter kan tenkas anvanda. > > > > Intresserad? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Yves-Eric Martin <yemartin(a)garage.co.jp> > > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 10:53 AM > > Subject: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan > > > > > > > Hi Zopistas, > > > > > > > > > This is the second alpha release of zzLocale, a Zope locale support > > > Product. > > > > > > zzLocale provides a framework for Zope interface internationalization > > > (Zope and Products management screens). The localization is done on a > > > per request basis, which allows developers from different countries to > > > work on the same Zope while each of them having an interface in his > > > native language. > > > > > > With zzLocale, Product developers can easily provide localized > > > interfaces for their Products. All that is needed is to put the > > > localized interface DTML templates in a "locales/[lang]" subdirectory of > > > the Product, and zzLocale does the rest. > > > > > > This version of zzLocale is pretty useable, and usually falls back > > > nicely when something goes wrong. However, it is still alpha, and we > > > would not recommend using it on a production server. > > > > > > This release includes a complete (I mean, as complete as current > > > zzLocale features permit) French interface, and a partial Japanese one. > > > Tranlators are welcome to provide other languages. Please send us your > > > translated templates so that we can include them in the next release. > > > > > > > > > For more information and download: > > > http://www.zope.ne.jp/users/yemartin/zzLocale > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Yves-Eric Martin > > > Digital Garage Inc. > > > yemartin(a)garage.co.jp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > (Related lists - > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope mailing list > Zope(a)torped.se > http://www.torped.se/mailman/listinfo.cgi/zope

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ZTopics and 2.2 - solved.
by Jonathan Cheyne 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

Just a follow up after much gnashing. I deleted the old catalog and recreated. I also noticed that some ztopics displayed whilst others did not (these are original ones not new). I tracked the difference to field types in the catalog. the catalog is less tolerent of sloppy setups i think - so i deleted an index and recreated as a different field type and bingo - no probs. Hope this makes sense. Cheers Jonathan

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RE: [Zope] user permissions
by Chris McDonough 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

I've never heard of anything like this. What roles does "Mike" have? What *does* show up in the Contents screen for "Mike"? > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Michael Mc Kay [mailto:admin@ihosts.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 10:02 AM > To: Chris McDonough; josh on > Cc: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] user permissions > > > I just installed 2.2. I read that the superuser account > cannot edit or add > objects so I set up a user as manager and one as an owner. The user > accounts are able to add objects but only the superuser > account can see them > once they are added. > > EX: > I am logged in as user Mike and add & edit a DTML Document. > I complete the > edit and choose change. When I'm returned to the contents the > new document > is > not visible. If I now log in as the superuser, everything is > visible but, > of course, cannot be moved, added to, or copied and pasted. > > So my question is "What have I not done correctly to have > created this catch > 22 situation.?" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> > To: "josh on" <josh(a)zesty.com> > Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Zope] user permissions > > > > No, that should do it. You cannot add, copy or move objects as the > > superuser, but you can add users to a user folder and change > > permissions. But there should be no permissions that need changing. > > Make sure that you give the user the 'Manager' role when > you add a new > > user (while logged in as superuser). > > > > josh on wrote: > > > > > > I just installed 2.2 on win98. > > > > > > I log on as a superuser, and try and make a new folder an I get: > > > > > > >Zope Error > > > > > > > > Zope has encountered an error while publishing this > resource. > > > > > > > > Error Type: SuperCannotOwn > > > > Error Value: Objects cannot be owned by the superuser > > > > > > So I used to do that I thought. I tried to make a new > acl user, but > > > couldn't log in with that name password combo. I saw > that webmaster > asked > > > this a couple of days ago, but I saw no answer. > > > > > > Am I being dumb and missing the obvious? Do I need to go > and read some > how > > > to about users and permissions? > > > > > > any help would be great. > > > > > > josh on > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > (Related lists - > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > >

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RE: [Zope] user permissions
by Webmaster 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

My installation is on RH Linux, however it sounds to me like you are having the same problem. I am no longer having the problem and the voodoo I doodood to get it working seems like a bad dream now. I created a simple user name "bob" and a one character password (I'm pretty sure it was "1"). I then closed and reopened Netscape and logged in as "bob" and it worked. I then created a second "manager" username and gave it a regular password and it work like it should have the first time. Of course all this happened after trying every conceivable incarnation of usernames and passwords (two and three character passwords did NOT work), stomping around my office, slamming doors and cursing everyone on the list that did not answer my postS ;-) Hope this helps!! Jamey > -----Original Message----- > From: josh on [SMTP:josh@zesty.com] > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:10 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] user permissions > > I just installed 2.2 on win98. > > I log on as a superuser, and try and make a new folder an I get: > > >Zope Error > > > > Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. > > > > Error Type: SuperCannotOwn > > Error Value: Objects cannot be owned by the superuser > > So I used to do that I thought. I tried to make a new acl user, but > couldn't log in with that name password combo. I saw that webmaster asked > this a couple of days ago, but I saw no answer. > > Am I being dumb and missing the obvious? Do I need to go and read some > how > to about users and permissions? > > any help would be great. > > josh on > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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a little problem for your incredible intelligence ....
by dsergent＠imexpert.com 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

I want to use the ptk product, and I have the fool dream that I can customyze it.... I explain, for a little test I want to add a ZCalendar in the index_html of a user. I want to add this possibility in the left menu of the ptk (where are the different item like "my stuff" ) and when the user click on it, a ZCalendar would be added on his index_html page. But I don't know where is the menu, and how to add anything to it. Another problem is, how to get a DTML document in a ZOPE application and how can I change it (add a little script line). I know that I request for the moon, but if anyone can give me a little help for a part of my dream .... I promise that I will improve my english :oþ (I'm only a little french which try to ask a question ....) thanks for your help David Sergent dsergent(a)imexpert.com

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user permissions
by josh on 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

I just installed 2.2 on win98. I log on as a superuser, and try and make a new folder an I get: >Zope Error > > Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. > > Error Type: SuperCannotOwn > Error Value: Objects cannot be owned by the superuser So I used to do that I thought. I tried to make a new acl user, but couldn't log in with that name password combo. I saw that webmaster asked this a couple of days ago, but I saw no answer. Am I being dumb and missing the obvious? Do I need to go and read some how to about users and permissions? any help would be great. josh on

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Re: Re: [Zope] ZTopics breaks with 2.2?
by guest 25 Jul '00

25 Jul '00

> Jonathan Cheyne wrote: > > > > Hi, can anyone confirm that the ZTopics product works after upgrading to > > 2.2? I get an AttributeError for value Lexicon after migrating. > > The problem is the old Data.fs, it seems. > > I just created a new one, in a clean Data.fs, and it works fine. > > You may try uninstalling the ZTopics, and reinstalling, but I doubt it will work. > > This is something I am noticing with all my 'upgrades'. There are loads, and loads, of > errors with the Data.fs, even though it loads the site. Has anyone else seen this? Try > running with Debug turned on, and you can see them. Mainly they complain about 'oid'. As a > result, I am finding myself simply rebuilding some site, and personally, I find it quite > bothersome. :^( > > > Bill > > -- > Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are easy to annoy, > and have the root password. > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > --------------------------------------------------- WorldPilot - Get Synced - http://www.worldpilot.org The Open Source Personal Information Manager Server Powered by Python and Zope - http://www.zope.org

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