November 2013 - Zope

Alternatives to ZWIKI?
by Jesus Cea 10 Dec '13

10 Dec '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ZWIKI is quite old and looks like dead. Am I misunderstanding the situation?. Anybody has any suggestion to replace my really OLD zwiki deployment?. I looking forward your opinion. Thanks a lot. - -- Jesús Cea Avión _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ jcea(a)jcea.es - http://www.jcea.es/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Twitter: @jcea _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ jabber / xmpp:jcea@jabber.org _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQCVAwUBUoQUFZlgi5GaxT1NAQKPmgP/deT21OsuxKn/gHi6XvxNVqA55ojRYEUn oGYouUAiGihqJJ/orfht6MEaMN4dVC1Ph71yd111YB4rGy+q+ZPUJPWzdIX40Ypc cVrkWWibQRg6xlXXa5TqBO/co+m+hdzk+3/MO0P09luEtnaW0dfEHPeVVFO5phUm R9J1p8I5ZWs= =Tq4D -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Product with external relationships coordinated with the transaction manager
by Jesus Cea 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, there. I am considering adopting "ExtFile/ExtImage" product and bring it to zope 2.13. The sourcecode is easy enough, although I suspect tons of "weirdness" is derived by legacy. A complete rewrite is an option, I should not maintain code I don't understand. Zope documentation is really incomplete and very old so I wonder about this: 1. What interfaces (I only care about Zope 2.13, no legacy) should I look at to participate in transactions?. I need to know if a transaction I was involved in was aborted (to rollback external changes too) or committed (to activate cascading actions previously "queued" during the transaction progress). Old ExtFile produc uses TM (transaction manager) from ZSQLmethods, but it is not in core Zope, I need to install an extra package, and I guess there is a more "official" and supported way. 2. How to participate in copy&paste?. I see stuff like "event" listening, but I can not find any documentation about them, beside just reading the source code. Any pointer and suggestion are welcomed :-). Thanks! - -- Jesús Cea Avión _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ jcea(a)jcea.es - http://www.jcea.es/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Twitter: @jcea _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ jabber / xmpp:jcea@jabber.org _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQCVAwUBUoqaHZlgi5GaxT1NAQI20QQAkAhLd1wck8szGLTyd18yF8IQQWrg+12u RRdYHXhtr6fbtsXIV+80x/7NpGsYTczhAJDbH1aIFlmhCbz9Sd6TdY0T2y+71Yt0 XFavL5UihcJiS4RB1x3wTImPSHyw3ZhkVewOpS4pUOqrS3HUipv4nexvUmLaMwQf A0zkqh++3AA= =LW1m -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Refresh Products without restart
by Gerhard Schmidt 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm starting to port some of our Products form Zope2.11 to Zope2.13. Why is the Refresh Tab gone form the Product Object. A quick look in the Source revealed that the refresh tab is still there only the manage_refresh method is gone. Is there another way to refresh single Products without restarting the whole server. Regards Estartu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQCVAwUBUonD+wzx22nOTJQRAQKNfgQAjgCWRnfgu5N4N3RovNucOMOHVrfGeKLM tPTDlxZWPnIBIpUN82XBOKM28p5Sg8rCDgPspfNbCbG8MqNFmeaH+KwwIohlS/X4 35nHo+XEi5vrJnBNO9jX5gXp8EwQ575HUD8KYKsNCyXgSLS0K1YKx084C0JjXCPJ sZcZcfx5AHk= =Kfj9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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ExtFile/ExtImage in Zope2 2.13 and Transaction Manager
by Jesus Cea 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I did some tests a year ago about upgrading to 2.13.19. I use ExtFile/ExtImage extensively and I had to patch it a bit. I hit the problem that ExtFile tries to import "from Shared.DC.ZRDB.TM import TM". Messing around a bit, I solved the issue installing "Products.ZSQLMethods" product (via <https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2012-January/176324.html>), but this is not working with 2.13.21. I am getting tons of upgrade warnings about zope packages. The documentation for "Products/ExtFile/TM.py" says this: """ TMRegistry and ProxyTM Use case - -------- Persistent objects (ExtFiles) need to participate in ZODB transactions. ExtFiles perform all operations using temporary files which are saved on commit or deleted on abort. Constraints - ----------- - - TransactionManagers (TM) must not be persistent themselves, i.e. must not have a _p_jar attribute. - - We have to make sure the ExtFile's _abort is called *before* the ZODB destroys the attributes of the persistent object. Solution - -------- - - ProxyTM is a subclass of TM.TM that keeps a (hard) reference to the (wrapped) persistent object it manages. Calls to _begin, _finish, and _abort are forwarded to the target object. - - TMRegistry is a module-level container for ProxyTMs. It creates and holds ProxyTMs keyed by (target_id, thread_id). - - ExtFiles implement _finish and _abort and register with the machinery by calling TM.register(self). - - On commit (or abort) the ProxyTM notifies its target object and removes itself from the registry. Hacks - ----- - - We manipulate the transaction's _resources attribute directly. This is to guarantee the ProxyTM is processed before other resources. There may be a way to achieve this using official APIs only, but I can't seem to find one. """ How can I solve this?. Is there any product similar to ExtFile/ExtImage? I can program Python if somebody guides me around the zope2 internal details... - -- Jesús Cea Avión _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ jcea(a)jcea.es - http://www.jcea.es/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Twitter: @jcea _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ jabber / xmpp:jcea@jabber.org _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQCVAwUBUobdLJlgi5GaxT1NAQJCbgP/cjU/H48QqZar3/quLDGRdTEBt+5uhIve zf5SLjWnDDqcDQ0UgEhDm7BbAFC4wLDFL8TV0sP7+jCIrvqT/1P9IXUXJ13o9flV dW2ni1DILG2zD4G3pES9OQKcMyaoXeZT3/JYwB/KD+TXEnDkek1zCxwRAAdRWveh PeTL6HCbrWU= =P7r7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Zope 2.13.21 misses "bootstrap.py"
by Jesus Cea 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am not familiar with zc.buildout, but I have quite bad experiences installing zope 2.13 using virtualenv (basically, zope needs to use specific pinned versions of products, and that would be fine if they were notified to "pip", but they are not). So I tried to install 2.13.21 using "zc.buildout", following instructions at <http://docs.zope.org/zope2/releases/2.13/INSTALL-buildout.html>, but it failed just at the very beginning, since there is no "bootstrap.py" script anywere. I have a previous 2.13.19 around, and it has a "bootstrap.py" and a "buildout.cfg". But 2.13.20 and 2.13.21 miss that file. So, how is current Zope installed?. Could you update documentation?. Thanks!. - -- Jesús Cea Avión _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ jcea(a)jcea.es - http://www.jcea.es/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Twitter: @jcea _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ jabber / xmpp:jcea@jabber.org _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQCVAwUBUobW9Zlgi5GaxT1NAQKn4gQAhCEhqWK+/ws0TtSlk41kQHA9uGd07EAU oQ79CDHq4O2YeUFM8gPhPV1XNYjuxBsxm+y8Uh0JfMOJ6D3Im6xDQVTvzZ+rch8B GpYAGG3tEXQVWoik6iMG66WD4OTDEaV4fCgM22Q4W5bb1U6ylLW0xCt/2RlJdCCB tMOXnkJ9V9o= =n4LG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Python 3 support in any Zope Toolkit version or fork
by Dotan Cohen 12 Nov '13

12 Nov '13

Hi all, I have a Python3 web application that I am considering porting to Zope Toolkit. Currently I am handling all the web connections in low-level Python. However, Python3 is a hard requirement. Are there any Zope Toolkit versions or forks which are Python3 compatible? What are the major stumbling blocks to porting, other than syntax? I've googled the subject a bit but I've found no details on the subject presented by anybody associated with the project. Thank you! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com

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Re: [Zope] Python 3 support in any Zope Toolkit version or fork
by Dotan Cohen 12 Nov '13

12 Nov '13

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Stephan Richter <stephan.richter(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ZTK 2.0 aims at Python 3 compatibility. All relevant packages have been > ported, but many are alpha releases, because they awaited a final ZODB 4.0 > release, which brought Python 3 support. > > Since ZODB 4.0 is now released, it is mostly a matter of releasing all > packages as final. > > I have ported an entire app to Python 3 before, so I know the porting is > pretty complete. For a full list of ported packages go here: > > http://zope3.pov.lt/py3/ > > Regards, > Stephan Thank you Stephan. I intend to play around with Zope Toolkit 2 and I'll report any issues that I come across. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com

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