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Auto-Documenting Zope Products
by Terry Hancock 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

Hi Dieter, (CC'd Zope list) I only just discovered the pydoc module in Python 2.1 and was trying it out on my Zope product (I was previously using "HappyDoc", which was unfortunately not finding everything I wanted it to -- presumeably because some things are added dynamically). Anyway, I noticed that you have a set of pydoc/zope patches for improved functionality. Neat. http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/pydoc.html I'm writing because I noticed some interesting things while playing with the inspect module (which pydoc uses). You've already got a patch to make pydoc recognize Python Methods, but I noticed that DTMLFile() and SQL() objects show up as python methods when I examine their type. So far the best way I've found to identify them is to look at their docstrings, which are inherited from the original DTMLFile/HTMLFile class and the SQL class respectively. It seems to me that it is a useful thing to be able to recognize whether a method is Python, DTML, ZSQL, ZPT, or whatever -- especially since they are usually used for different things. So far, I've noticed that: DTMLFile objects' docstrings begin with "HTMLFile" ZSQL objects' docstrings begin with "SQL" It seems likely that the others could be identified this way too. Or is there a smarter way to do it? I'm a little concerned that the docstrings might change in different Zope versions. I'm unsure what to do about this, but I was wondering if there might be some useful way I could contribute detection code to your pydoc patches? Also it seems like pydoc might be best invoked from within Zope, though I've been trying to do it from the interpreter with, e.g.: >>> import Zope Actually this generates a traceback, because the ZODB is supposed to be locked by my running Zope instance, but it seems to work anyway for my purposes. >>> import Products.myproduct >>> import pydoc ... Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to generate a full documentation set for the product this way -- I've managed to generate individual HTML pages, but I don't seem to be doing it right yet. I also incorporated a useful trick for documenting complex DTML pages, which I use in my Narya product: http://www.anansispaceworks.com/Narya/Forum?debuglayout=1 which is basically to wrap DTML objects in a table with a label derived from the document_id. I'm not sure if there's a more automatic way to do it. But the point is that if DTML is supposed to be for doing visual layouts, it seemed logical to document it visually as well -- let the layout show you how the templates are used together. I'd like to figure out a way to do this so it doesn't depend on the page design to do it, but this isn't too demanding (I just have to include a small DTML method call in the headers and footers). Cheers, Terry -- ------------------------------------------------------ Terry Hancock hancock(a)anansispaceworks.com Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com ------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [Zope] Still No TextIndexNG on Win2000 (ALMOST SOLVED)
by abg＠comco-inc.com 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

I installed the Windows extensions for TextIndexNG (thanks to Andreas for putting together an installer so quickly). The installer only detected the stand-alone version of Python during the install (as opposed to the one that ships with Zope). I changed Zope's start.bat to point to the stand-alone install of Python. No problem. I restarted Zope and went to the "Products" page. TextIndexNG is now showing up as a product, it looks like: TextIndexNG (Installed product TextIndexNG (1.05beta1)) This is a BIG step... I've never been able to get Zope to even recognize TextIndexNG. Here's the problem: TextIndexNG still isn't appearing as an option under the "indexes" tab of a ZCatalog object. I am unable to create a TextIndexNG index. Zope isn't giving any errors, the product seems to be properly installed, it just isn't showing up. Any ideas? Thanks, Aaron Gillette -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Andreas Jung Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 3:15 AM To: Andy McKay; Jean Lagarde Cc: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Still No TextIndexNG on Win2000 (ALMOST SOLVED) The TextIndexNG extensions for Win32 are now available for download: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=50052 Cheers, Andreas --On Donnerstag, 19. September 2002 22:26 -0700 Andy McKay <andy(a)agmweb.ca> wrote: > For you and all the other people who want the binary: > http://www.agmweb.ca/Test/TextIndexNG.tar > > You'll have to copy \build\lib.win32-2.1\*.pyd into a suitable directory. > > Cheers > -- > Andy McKay > Agmweb Consulting > http://www.agmweb.ca > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Xron Trouble
by Stacy Roberts Ladnier 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

I have an Xron set up. When I use the 'View' tab, I get the desired results. However, when I use the 'Trigger' tab, which should be used for testing purposes, the Xron DTML Method does not get fully executed. I have noticed that when this object is set up in the Schedule, it is not being executed properly. Does anyone know why this is happening?

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IE caching form field values
by Michael Fox 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

Hi *, >From what I understand, having the following DTML and/or HTML tags *should* disable IE from caching previously entered values in form fields... <dtml-call "RESPONSE.setHeader('Expires', '-1')"> <dtml-call "RESPONSE.setHeader('Pragma', 'no-cache')"> <dtml-call "RESPONSE.setHeader('Cache-Control', 'no-cache')"> <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE></TITLE> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Expires" CONTENT="-1"> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Pragma" CONTENT="no-cache"> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Cache-Control" CONTENT="no-cache"> </HEAD> Yet somehow IE remembers these values, and if I begin to enter say "3" IE will remembered the previous entered values 3, 33, 311 etc. and display a nice little IE drop-down-like-box below a standard HTML text input form field with these values. Is there any way to disable this? Any help much appreciated. Regards, Michael Fox

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by zachary＠host.combi.com.cn 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

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Performance ( lack of ?) problems
by Brian Sullivan 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

I am running Zope 2.5 on a Win2000 server. The server is not a total screamer but is pretty capable I think ( 800 mhz PIII 256 mB ). >From within a python script, I am trying to, while uploading a text file, create some Zope folder objects for each line in the text file. Each line in the text file causes creation of an object and a couple of child objects and in each child object 3-10 more objects ( and in the future the number may increase). I am finding that each line read takes 1-3 seconds of real time in the script to create the required objects -- I am hoping to upload files and process having between 500-2500 lines using this technique but at this rate it will not be possible. I am currently trying to determine if there is a particular area that is causing the problem but I haven't found anything obvious yet ( using the profiler and manipulating the coded). Is this level of performance expected, am I likely doing something bizarre that is causing this performance problem? If this is expected performance, is there some other technique I should be using? Any guidance accepted.

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RE: Zope digest, Vol 1 #2359 - 58 msgs
by Brian Sullivan 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

> > ZEO -- you mean the clustering tool ? I presume you are > saying that I > > might need more than server to do the job? > I mean ZEO but it is not necessary to run it on a different > server (host). > > ZEO will give you the ability to do ZODB related work > in external Python scripts outside of Zope. > > Have a look at the "LocalProc" product. I do not know it myself, > but it may help you to manage such off-loaded processes. OK thanks I will have a look. > > > Dieter > > PS: Please stay on the list. > > Well -- I guess I try to -- but maybe this is the time to bring up way the list works ( or maybe the way it is used) -- I find the practice of sending replies directly to the person who posted and copying to the list counter-intuitive -- it is sometimes very difficult to follow the thread, difficult for both parties to keep in the list. When I get messages from an individual I tend to reply directly to sender of record -- the same with the list. Is there a reason why the list works this way( the reply does not go to the list unless forced) ? I run a list, participate in dozens of others and find this strategy confusing.

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RE: [Zope] IE caching form field values
by Passin,Thomas B. (Tom) 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

[Oliver Bleutgen]> > > Yet somehow IE remembers these values, and if I begin to > enter say "3" > > IE will remembered the previous entered values 3, 33, 311 etc. and > > display a nice little IE drop-down-like-box below a > standard HTML text > > input form field with these values. > > > > Is there any way to disable this? Tools/Internet Options/Content tab/Autocomplete Cheers, Tom P

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RE: [Zope] I can't seem to get site-packages to work under Win32
by Friedlander Paul 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

This doesn't seem to work for me. I checked and I have all the files you mentioned already there. I did have other copies around so I cleaned them up and only have the files you mention. I still get: Error Type: ImportError Error Value: The _imaging C module is not installed I also have ActivePython installed could that be causing a problem? -----Original Message----- From: Julian Melville [mailto:jmelville@selectaustralasia.com.au] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 11:59 PM To: Friedlander Paul Subject: RE: [Zope] I can't seem to get site-packages to work under Win32 > Has anybody successfully installed PIL in Zope 2.5.1 under win32? Yep. I put the PIL folder into ZOPEROOT\lib\python, and the _imaging.pyd fole in ZOPEROOT\bin\lib\win32. I think I saw an email to that effect somewhere on a list. I also added the tcl83.dll and tk83.dll files to the ZOPEROOT\bin\DLLs folder because PIL needs the Tk stuff in there for some reason. Julian.

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Create and edit by a script but not by management screens ...
by celio conort 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

Hi ! I just made a script called by a form , that create one Object and fill its properties obj=context.manage_addProduct['MyProduct'].MyObj.createInObjectManager(id, {}) for p in baseFields[0].keys(): obj.propertysheets.propertie1.manage_changeProperties({p : request[baseFields[0][p]]}) the problem is that this script is called by Anonymous users and the object is stored in a temporary folder that i can moderate so in this folder, anonymous can "Add MyObjs" and "Manage Properties" but it's not secure at all !! but if i don't add thoose two permissions i can't create or edit the properties of this object :-( any solution ? thx a lot !! Célio Conort

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