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New to zope
by Philippe Fremy 17 Nov '06

17 Nov '06

Hi, I am new to Zope and I plan to develop a small web site. I am developing at the moment on windows although the final site will go under Linux. I am almost finished reading the zope book. First thing, it was difficult to download Zope. The website lists two versions of zope 2.9.x and 2.10.x , none of which has a windows installer, although the book explicitely said there should be one :-) I had to get back to 2.9.4 to get a windows installer, that would not work out of the box. I was also confused of whether I should use zope 2 or zope 3. The zope book does not mention anything about it, but I soon figured out that the zope book seem to be made for zope 2. I also had a look at different products but it is very difficult to tell if they are for zope 3 or zope 2. Or is zope 3 backward compatible with zope 2 ? Is there any doc about zope 3 ? Since the book is made for zope 2, I think I'll stay with that one. I can not go without documentation. As a newcomer, I must say that the documentation is not very consistent or easy to find. Many resources speak about a zope wiki, which does not exist anymore. Another zope wiki is available, but is not cited in the main documentation page. The main wiki page is a huge list of modules, where it is difficult to find one's path. I assume the wiki is mainly for developers, not for users, right ? The main documentation page of zope also points to zdp.zope.org as a documentation project effort, but the website does not exist. :-( Now, the second step. I now have a basic understanding of how zope works thank to the zope book. I want to start developing my website. I had a look at the different products available and my god ! there are hundreds of them. So, I am asking for advice. My website is going to be fairly simple. I need a user base which I don't expect to grow beyond 100 users, and for each user I need a pretty typical login/register/lost your password page and probably a cookie based session tracking. Any product that covers my needs ? I had a quick look at a few user products, but most of them seem to be targetted to authenticate users through external resources (database, apache, ...) while I just need the good old cookie way. Thanks in advance, Philippe Fremy

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building zope and plone behind apache2
by Allen Huang 17 Nov '06

17 Nov '06

I'm using a linux to run my plone and I wish to build it behind apache2. The documentation on the Plone site is for plone that are build behind apache2 on a Debian system. But I'm using a platform call Scientific Linux and I couldn't find a lot of folders and files mentioned in that documentation. What should I do now? Is running build building zope and plone behind apache2 same for all the linux system? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link $420k for $1,399/mo. Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? Find Out! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre

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PAS and SSO pubcookie question
by cristopher pierson ewing 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

Hi all, I'm a newbie to zope, working on installing a plone website for the radiology department at the University of Washington. I want to use SSO so that my content creators don't need to remember additional login/passwd for my site. I've been working on getting apache proxying and pubcookie authentication to work with Zope (2.9.4? installed via the plone 2.5.1 installer and also by hand). Instructions for doing this can be found at http://www.washington.edu/webinfo/case/zope/ So far, the apache proxy and mod_pubcookie parts of the puzzle seem to be working just fine. I can protect a directory with AuthType UWNetID and all works as expected, and the proxy rewrites I've generated seem to be redirecting traffic from my port 80 apache instance to my zope instance as expected. Logging in at the pubcookie login server also works, but when I'm redirected back to my zope instance, I am prompted for a login/password, and no matter what I give, I am locked out. I have been able to log in to my zope instance via localhost:8080/manage, and when I've added the 'access' file with my username, a colon, and a newline, no password is required to login. So I think the 'RemoteUserAuth' plugin described at the above site is working correctly. I have debugged the interaction from the apache side as far as I am able, and I know that the appropriate headers are being sent to zope via the mod_fba module in apache. What I can't do, and what I need help with, is debugging the zope half of this interaction. I don't fully grasp the way that user authentication works in zope. I'm not sure where to begin to look for the problem here, and I'm hoping someone can help. I'm a python newbie, so I might need a little hand-holding, but I'm an experienced programmer, and willing to do pretty much anything to figure this one out. The success of my plone site really depends on it. The expected behavior is that mod_fba sets an authorization header with a username from pubcookie and sends it to zope with a page request for the ZMI. Zope is supposed to enter _remote_user_mode (as I understand it) because I've provided the 'access' file, and then set the credential name using that header. Zope then uses that name for authorization, taking for granted that it has been authenticated, and not checking passwords. This appears to be happening correctly when I try to directly access the ZMI via localhost:8080/manage. I can give a user name and no password and am logged in as expected. However, when I try to access the ZMI via apache (http://myhost.com/manage which gets rewritten to http://localhost:8080/manage in apache proxy), I am prompted via basic auth for username and password, and anything I enter is rejected. Can anyone help me to figure out how I can debug the interaction here? Perhaps taking a look at the headers that apache is supposed to be sending once they arrive in zope? Any other suggestions would be wholly and warmly welcomed. Thanks for anything you might offer, Cris ******************************** Cris Ewing CME and Telehealth Web Services Department of Radiology Web Services University of Washington School of Medicine Work Phone: (206) 685-9116 Home Phone: (206) 365-3413 E-mail: cewing(a)u.washington.edu *******************************

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Z2.log format
by Sascha Adler 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

I'm running an instance of Zope 2.8.6, and I'm stumbling into a problem with the format of Z2.log. Unlike an Apache log, which would have the format %S - %u ... Z2.log appears to have the format %S- %u ... The lack of the space following %S causes analog to choke on an address that contains a hyphen in it, and in my case, analog cannot read half of Z2.log. I've tried looking up how to change the format Z2.log comes in, but I haven't found anything useful. Is there any way to work around this? -Sascha

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Transient Object Container
by rieh25 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

Well, I hope this is the right place to post this question... I'm trying to learn how to use the Transient Object Container to use it for session data managing. I searched on Google for it, and I found some instructions, but it has me puzzled the one that adds objects to the TOC, because the key is specified, but the object to be contained isn't. This is the afore mentioned instruction: new(self, k) Can somebody indicate to me a place to learn about this subject in more detail? Thanks... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Transient-Object-Container-tf2647376.html#a7387442 Sent from the Zope - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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All the pretty Icons have gone
by George Wright 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

As a new learner of Zope & Plone (Plone 2.5). I am slowly working through ZopeBook-2.6. Most going well but suddenly all screen icons have disappeared!. All I see is the alternative text. * Probably the last thing I was playing with is on page 110 of ZopeBook-2.6.pdf Where I viewed directly "http://localhost:8080/p_/ZopeButton" - which still works • And did some experimenting with "standard_html_header" • It was about this stage that icons began to disappear • I have done some undos • I have restarted zope • I have restarted computer • I have tried an zope.org archive search without success Everything else seems to work OK Any help appreciated. George Wright

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ExternalEditor plugin for OpenOffice.org
by Marco Bizzarri 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

Hi all. I hope this is the right place for asking this. Is there anyone who has already developed a plugin for Zope External Editor to interact with OpenOffice ? I know it is possible to have them working by disabling the quick start plugin, but it is a bit clumsy, ad it looks more a hack than a solution to me. If no plugin is already available, I will try to write one... Regards Marco -- Marco Bizzarri http://iliveinpisa.blogspot.com/

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Password expiration
by Sinang, Danny 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

Hello, "Out of the box", is Zope able to do password-expiration ? Or do I need an authentication product to do this ? Will this external product be able to effect password expiration on existing acl_user folder users ? Regards, Danny

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Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative
by michael nt milne 15 Nov '06

15 Nov '06

"yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new followers to zope." Quite right. It's an ignorant attitude and one that itself deserves the label that it is prescribing. It's been prevalent for a long time on this list. The whole attitude here is one of sneering and schoolboy name calling. Is there a reason that the Plone list gets 3 times the level of postings that the Zope list gets? Yes. because it is a more mature and constructive support environment which actually helps promote the product. On 11/13/06, Andreas Jung <lists(a)zopyx.com> wrote: > > > > --On 13. November 2006 07:24:20 -0600 Perry Smith <pedz(a)easesoftware.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Nov 13, 2006, at 6:49 AM, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: > > > >> Chris Withers said the following on 11/13/2006 12:11 PM: > >>> Hafeliel wrote: > >>>> > >>>> If you could, please take a moment to surf on over to > >>>> http://zopereplacement.wikidot.com/ > >>> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll > >>> > >>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=numpty > >>> > >>> Try doing a bit more digging before wasting your time writing this > >>> rubbish. > >>> > >>> I suggest you take a good long hard look at Zope 3, read the 2 books, > >>> and then come back... > >> > >> yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new > >> followers to zope. > >> > >> Sure, the man might be mistaken and misinformed, but if it is hard to > >> understand the tool, maybe some docs or references might be in order, > >> thoughI fail to see anythign zope related in > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll unless we mean to describe > >> the attitude towards criticism we/some of us don't like (like to deal > >> with?). > > > > I probably sounds like a broken record but: > > > > My suggestion to the Zope developers is look at Apache's documentation. > > Its all there, complete, in one place. Wiki's do not document. They > are > > for discussions and new ideas, etc. Internal docs are just for a few > > limited instances. They require you to be working in Zope at the time, > > they can not be printed, they can not really be searched. > > > > > > This is all true but historical reasons and because "the community" did > not > help much to improve the situation. So the current situation is basically > a > mirror of its community?! Anyway, this wiki contains a bunch of false > information or information written by a person that has little idea about > Zope. If someone comes up with such a wiki one can expect solid and right > information but at least half of the stuff is just wrong and some parts of > the wiki really deserve the predicate "written by a numpty"...sorry but I > prefer to make clear statements :-) > > -aj > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > -- michael

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adding a python library
by David Bear 15 Nov '06

15 Nov '06

I would like to add Mark Pilgrims feedparser to the available modules that I can use in zope. I have installed the feedparser into the python instance that zope uses. However, when I attempt to import it, I get an error that I'm not authorized. How might I make the feedparser available to zope? -- David Bear phone: 602-496-0424 fax: 602-496-0955 College of Public Programs/ASU University Center Rm 622 411 N Central Phoenix, AZ 85007-0685 "Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing"

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