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ZODBC configuration problems
by Capesius, Alan 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

Are you running 2.2? Look at: http://www.egroups.com/message/zope/36392 Is the Access DB on the same server as Zope? If not, you may be running into problems accessing the network. The Zope service may need to be switched to run under a user account that has access to the network resource. The NT System account does not have network authority. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/periodic/period98/ewn9824.htm http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q235/5/36.ASP Is the ODBC DSN a system DSN? Don't use User DSN. Alan Capesius, MCSE+21 Sysmex Corp of America >>>Message: 17 >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:59:32 -0600 >>> From: paul_s_johnson(a)urscorp.com >>>Subject: ZODBC configuration problems >>> >>>The permissions on this database are such that any anonymous user can >>>access its data so the error message appears to be >>>inaccurate. I double >>>checked the db permissions to make sure this is the case. >>> >>>I am running Zope on NT 4.0 and using Access 97. The >>>logged-in user on the >>>webserver is not a member of any Access-related workgroups so this >>>eliminates most security-related access issues (I think) and >>>none of the >>>databases are passworded. >>> >>>There's some flakiness going on here. Any recommendations >>>for isolating >>>and resolving these problems? >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>P. Johnson >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>(Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>> >>>Message: 18 >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:41:50 -0500 >>> From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> >>>Subject: Re: Factoids for supporting zope >>> >>>> > Our client thought that the recent VC money was about >>>1/2 what would >>>> > be needed to make it fly. My argument is that money >>>is leveraged by >>>> > the active Zope community so a crux in my logic is >>>how strong this >>>> > community is. >>>> >>>> 1/2 of what would be needed to make it fly with Zope? >>>Or 1/2 of what >>>would >>>> be needed with any app server? >>>> >>>> >>>> Since they come from a non Zope context it would be from >>>the general >>>> position and the onus is on me to bring in the Zope context in the >>>> construction of my argument. >>> >>>Ah. Well, my opinion is that it'd be fairly dangerous to >>>make the assertion >>>that (as great as they both are) Zope and the Zope community >>>can "make up >>>for" the other half of the capital they need to develop the >>>software they >>>want. So what's the decision they're trying to make? >>>Whether to develop at >>>all? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>(Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>> >>>Message: 19 >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:28:11 +0100 >>> From: "Max M" <maxmcorp(a)worldonline.dk> >>>Subject: RE: How do i write <or>? >>> >>>From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of >>>Stoonsdesign >>> >>>>The thing is that I have this page (made by somebody else) >>>wich is supposed >>>to >>>>look up some words in a database by writing: >>> >>>Hi Stoons >>> >>>It really is impossible to answer that question without >>>knowing how that >>>page works. >>> >>>But maybe letter=* will work. >>> >>>Regards Max M >>> >>>Max M. W. Rasmussen, Denmark. New Media Director >>>private: maxmcorp(a)worldonline.dk work: maxm(a)normik.dk >>>----------------------------------------------------- >>>Specialization is for insects. - Robert A. Heinlein >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>(Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>> >>>Message: 20 >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:34:59 -0400 >>> From: "Dany Rioux" <rdany(a)drioux.com> >>>Subject: RE: Possible disaster upgrading to 2.2.4 >>> >>>I was thinking about downloading the ZDiscussions product and install >>>it but from what I can see, it looks like it needs some fixing. >>> >>>I intend to upgrade to zope 2.2.4 when it was proven that it >>>is stable >>>but I don't want to run into more troubles that I can chew on. >>> >>>I will need a Discussion board when the site go live so should I >>>upgrade Zope and wait for another Discussion Product to come up or >>>install ZDiscussion and hold on the Zope upgrade? >>> >>>TIA >>> >>>Dany >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On >>>> Behalf Of Bill >>>> Welch >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 11:50 AM >>>> To: zope(a)zope.org >>>> Cc: Jonathan Cheyne >>>> Subject: Re: [Zope] Possible disaster upgrading to 2.2.4 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Jonathan Cheyne wrote: >>>> > Ah, I tried reinstalling zddiscussions, no joy, i tried deleting >>>> > zdiscussions but when you restart zeop it reinstalls the >>>> two products as >>>> > broken. >>>> >>>> You have to delete it from lib/python/Products as well, but >>>> it's a red >>>> herring for the real issue (see below). >>>> >>>> > i tried a new install of 2.2.4 then copy across my >>>> data.fs bits and untar >>>> > various products in use on the site, but, exactly the >>>> same message. so it >>>> > may not be th eupgrade but something in 2.2.4 itself that >>>> my data.fs >>>> > dislikes. >>>> >>>> No, it's your data.fs that's the problem. It's been >>>> corrupted the same way >>>> several others have been the past few months (ZDiscussions >>>> is suspiciously >>>> overrepresented as the pickled data in the traceback). See >>>> the 'Is data.fs >>>> corrupted' thread. >>>> >>>> Bill. >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>(Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>> >>>Message: 21 >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:40:04 +0000 >>> From: Robin Becker <robin(a)jessikat.fsnet.co.uk> >>>Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] CVS down? >>> >>>In article >>><Pine.LNX.4.21.0011280858460.2824-100000(a)serenade.digicool.co >>>m>, Ken Manheimer <klm(a)digicool.com> writes >>>>On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Robin Becker wrote: >>>> >>>>> C:\Python\devel\Zope>cvs -z9 upd -A -P -d >>>>> CVS.EXE [update aborted]: connect to zope.org:2401 >>>failed: Connection >>>>> refused >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am I pointing at the wrong server or something? >>>> >>>OK that works for me. I had to use cvs_chroot.py, but that >>>seemed to go >>>OK. >>>-- >>>Robin Becker >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev(a)zope.org >>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev >>>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>(Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>> >>>Message: 22 >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:29:51 -0500 >>> From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian(a)digicool.com> >>>Subject: RE: 2.2.4 upgrade query >>> >>>> Further to my paniced posting earlier, I reinstalled >>>2.2.0, copied over my >>>> data.fs* and various products and everything fired up fine >>>but i did one >>>> experiment (following on from Chris) - i didnt install >>>zdiscussions. This >>>> resulted in major oids errors and my broken zclass as >>>before/ install >>>> zdiscussions and bingo i am back in business. so. two questios: >>>> >>>> 1. why does my zclass appear to require zdiscussions when it is not >>>> based on it? >>> >>>Not sure on that... >>> >>>> >>>> 2. does 2.2.4 contain some parts of what was previously >>>the standalone >>>> zdiscussions product? >>> >>>No. The only thing I could think of is maybe some change in >>>the way products are registered or something that affects >>>ZDiscussions badly. I'm just guessing here. Have you tried >>>going from 2.2.0 -> 2.2.1 or 2.2.2? If you see the same thing >>>on one of them, that would narrow it down and we could look at >>>the diffs between those releases and see if anything looks >>>suspicious... >>> >>> >>>Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com >>>Software Engineer 540.371.6909 >>>Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>(Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>> >>>Message: 23 >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:44:16 -0500 >>> From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> >>>Subject: Re: Possible disaster upgrading to 2.2.4 >>> >>>Yes, there definitely seems to be something funky with >>>ZDiscussions. It's >>>been at the heart of several threads which claim "ZODB >>>corruption". If >>>someone had the time to figure it out, I think we'd all feel >>>better. ;-) >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Bill Welch" <bill(a)carbonecho.com> >>>To: <zope(a)zope.org> >>>Cc: "Jonathan Cheyne" <jonathan(a)home-all.org.uk> >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 10:50 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Zope] Possible disaster upgrading to 2.2.4 >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Jonathan Cheyne wrote: >>>> > Ah, I tried reinstalling zddiscussions, no joy, i tried deleting >>>> > zdiscussions but when you restart zeop it reinstalls the >>>two products as >>>> > broken. >>>> >>>> You have to delete it from lib/python/Products as well, >>>but it's a red >>>> herring for the real issue (see below). >>>> >>>> > i tried a new install of 2.2.4 then copy across my >>>data.fs bits and >>>untar >>>> > various products in use on the site, but, exactly the >>>same message. so >>>it >>>> > may not be th eupgrade but something in 2.2.4 itself >>>that my data.fs >>>> > dislikes. >>>> >>>> No, it's your data.fs that's the problem. It's been >>>corrupted the same way >>>> several others have been the past few months (ZDiscussions >>>is suspiciously >>>> overrepresented as the pickled data in the traceback). See >>>the 'Is data.fs >>>> corrupted' thread. >>>> >>>> Bill. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>>> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>> (Related lists - >>>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>(Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>> >>>Message: 24 >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:34:11 -0500 (EST) >>> From: albert boulanger <aboulang(a)ldeo.columbia.edu> >>>Subject: Re: Factoids for supporting zope >>> >>> From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> >>> Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >>> References: <200011281450.JAA01114(a)ox.ldgo.columbia.edu> >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:41:50 -0500 >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> X-Priority: 3 >>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 >>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 >>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>> charset="Windows-1252" >>> Content-Length: 851 >>> >>> > > Our client thought that the recent VC money was >>>about 1/2 what would >>> > > be needed to make it fly. My argument is that >>>money is leveraged by >>> > > the active Zope community so a crux in my logic is >>>how strong this >>> > > community is. >>> > >>> > 1/2 of what would be needed to make it fly with >>>Zope? Or 1/2 of what >>> would >>> > be needed with any app server? >>> > >>> > >>> > Since they come from a non Zope context it would be >>>from the general >>> > position and the onus is on me to bring in the Zope >>>context in the >>> > construction of my argument. >>> >>> Ah. Well, my opinion is that it'd be fairly dangerous to >>>make the assertion >>> that (as great as they both are) Zope and the Zope >>>community can "make up >>> for" the other half of the capital they need to develop >>>the software they >>> want. So what's the decision they're trying to make? >>>Whether to develop at >>> all? >>> >>>Whether to go with portal products from Plumtree or iPlanet. >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>(Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>> >>>Message: 25 >>> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:54 -0800 >>> From: rlanham(a)speakeasy.net >>>Subject: Re: html expertise anyone. >>> >>>dtml as a server side scripting language is not going to >>>change anything >>>dynamically on your page. Maybe you mean DHTML. >>> >>>In IE everything is in the DOM and can be changed. Netscape >>>is not thorough, and I don't think there is a hook that will >>>change a.visited, et al. >>> >>>But you could try. >>> >>>IE has a links collection, like .images and .all >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>>(Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>___________ >>> >>> >>>

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Re: [Zope] Problem with an INTERBASE connection
by Bob Tierney 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

Is it sysadm or should it be sysdba as the user? _________________________________________________________________ Robert E. Tierney EMail: bob.tierney(a)goingv.com Going Virtual HTTP: www.goingv.com 10800 Independence Pointe Pkwy Phone: 1-704-849-0731 x109 Matthews, NC 28105 Fax: 1-704-849-2279 AIM: RETierney _________________________________________________________________ On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Francois-regis Chalaoux wrote: > Trying to run a connection with this Database Connection String : 'C:?Program Files?Borland?InterBase?examples?Database?employee.gdb sysadm > masterkey', I got the following error : Invalid connection string: 'C:?Program Files?Borland?InterBase?examples?Database?employee.gdb sysadm > masterkey'. > > where is the bug!? > > FRC > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > >

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Problem with "Python Script" in Zope-2.2.x-to-2.2.4-win32-x86.tgz or in my brain???
by Max M 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

I just upgraded Zope on my Win 2K machine with Zope-2.2.x-to-2.2.4-win32-x86.tgz But I cannot find "Python Methods" or "Python Scripts" anywhere. Is it me being stupid or is the product missing from that tarball?? Regards Max M Max M. W. Rasmussen, Denmark. New Media Director private: maxmcorp(a)worldonline.dk work: maxm(a)normik.dk ----------------------------------------------------- Specialization is for insects. - Robert A. Heinlein

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Problem with an INTERBASE connection
by Francois-regis Chalaoux 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

Trying to run a connection with this Database Connection String : 'C:?Program Files?Borland?InterBase?examples?Database?employee.gdb sysadm masterkey', I got the following error : Invalid connection string: 'C:?Program Files?Borland?InterBase?examples?Database?employee.gdb sysadm masterkey'. where is the bug!? FRC

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Re: [Zope] ZODBC configuration problems
by Pavel V. Piankov 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

>sources I receive the error "Invalid connection string" except for one of If you are using the last ZODBCDA there should be no problems granted that you have provided the proper connection string. check the connection object, there sould be written down smth. like '<datasource> <login> <pass>' or '<datasource> <pass> <login>' I don`t remember exactly. regards. -- pashah

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Python method: recursive function gives NameError
by Willem Broekema 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

I have a simple recursive function in a Python method that gives a NameError (2.2.4 on Win98). The function (in PM named 'rec'): --- def myfunc(i): if i >= 10: return myfunc(1) else: return 1 return myfunc(11) --- The end of the traceback: --- File c:\myzopeinstance\...cts\PythonMethod\PythonMethod.py, line 168, in __call__ (Object: rec) (Info: ((), {}, None)) File <string>, line 6, in rec (Object: myfunc) File <string>, line 3, in myfunc NameError: (see above) --- Isn't it allowed to have a recursive function here? - Willem

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Python Script and O'Reilly Book
by Michel Pelletier 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

Hi folks, We get quite a bit of mail about how the book and Python Scripts don't make sense with each other any more. We're aware of a couple issues: o The Book says "Python Method" and documents the version in CVS o The current release of "Python Methods" does not work with the book examples, you need to check them out of CVS (are there may still be some issues) o "Python Methods" are now "Python Scripts" o The book explains "Methods" in a unified way, this needs to be split up and broken out. We apologize for the inconsistencies. Obviously, these things are going to all be worked out real soon now. We wanted to make a general announcement because we just can't handle all of the questions that come to us directly by mail. We want to warn you though: Python Scripts are alpha, CVS code. Additionaly, the book is "beta" documentation. Neither of these artifacts are finished or released yet, so please always be aware that you need to use them at your own discretion. -Michel

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tree traversing & publishing
by Milos Prudek 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

I do not quite understand how Zope traverses a tree. I created "ZooExhibit" Z Class within ZooExhibit factory, and "ExhibitProperties" prop.sheet within that class, with an "animal" property. I made association between "Edit" name and propertysheets/ExhibitProperties/manage. I made an instance of the Z Class called "Rabbit" within Zoo folder. But when I access http://Zoo/Rabbit/propertysheets/ExhibitProperties/animal, I get an error "Missing doc string". Perhaps a similar problem: I created "BWE" product/Z Class, and on the Methods tab I created "pop" folder with a default "index_html". I created an instance of that Z Class called "BWE_inst" within a "BWE" folder. I can access "http://BWE/BWE_inst", but when I try "http://BWE/BWE_inst/pop", browser gives me Authorization failed. -- Milos

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Re: [Zope] Client/Server Product
by Andy McKay 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

> Thank you very much. I would like help you, but I am not so good as you to > develop it. > Congratulations for your product. Oh I didnt develop it.... cant claim any credit there. > Anderson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy McKay [mailto:andym@ActiveState.com] > Sent: terça-feira, 28 de novembro de 2000 15:44 > To: Anderson Ami; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Client/Server Product > > > > Has anybody used the Client/Server Product ? > > Yes its excellent and I wish time to help develop it :( > > > If I create a dtml document on the server, can I use it through the client > ? > > No, it facilitates the moving of objects from one zope to another. Think of > it as a more advanced import / export feature. > > > is the server just a repository that can´t make changes ? > > No the server can make changes, but then it could be out of sync... > > -- > Andy McKay, Developer. > ActiveState. >

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Factoids for supporting zope
by Spicklemire, Jerry 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

Albert said: > Our client thought that the recent VC money was about 1/2 what would > be needed to make it fly. My argument is that money is leveraged by > the active Zope community so a crux in my logic is how strong this > community is. The "1/2" the capital needed" part is a puzzling assumption. Is your client trying to map some business school model onto DC / Zope? If so, you are absolutely correct to point out that Zope is Open Source, and has excellent support from DC, and the Zope Community, which by the way includes lot's of other folks using Zope in real world enterprises. Most of all, it's very important for your client to understand DC's business model, and the fact that the new VC Capital will be used to scale DC to meet the already explosive demand for Zope based solutions. As a services company, no doubt DC has grown accustomed to meeting paycheck schedules by fulfilling the requirements of an expanding client list. The investment, based on the press release, etc., will be applied to making more of the same happen sooner. This is just my take on the public information, I have no ties to DC, other than as a Zope and Python fan (and hopelessly bedazzled groupie). If your client is sketchy about these details, it may be up to you to help them fill in the blanks. Have they checked out the Zope.org site, specifically Testimonials http://www.zope.org/Resources/Testimonials and Case Studies? http://www.zope.org/Resources/CaseStudies Some of these are old, but there are some pretty good hints there re. what folks have done with, and think about, Zope. Open Source in general can be disorienting at first glance. There are several "pages" out there with interviews where Paul Everitt answers questions about DC's business model, etc. Check these out: http://www.zope.org/Resources/Media http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/1999/05/24/focus4.html and other articles here http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/199906/_digcreate.htm and elsewhere on the Web. Later, Jerry S.

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