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RE: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?)
by Wilkinson Charlie E 30 Jun '00

30 Jun '00

Just to start by pointing out the bloody obvious: - Restoring from backup means you lose all data between backup date/time and system failure. Sucks, but it beats losing *all* your data. (RAID5 anyone?) - With that in mind, *consistency* of the backup database takes the highest priority. All existing transactions should be fully completed - no half-done updates, etc. It seems to me that the easiest way to get there with ZODB might be to just make a simple file copy of the database and have some kind of integrity checking tool to run against the static backup copy to weed out the junk. Is this possible, does it already exist? Probably a dumb question, but would Zope itself do this if you fired it off against an inconsistent ZODB? Another random thought is that if ZODB transactions and writes are atomic, than none of this should be an issue. Anyone know the answer to that one? -cw- > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Withers [mailto:chrisw@nipltd.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:49 AM > To: Erik Enge > Cc: Oleg Broytmann; Zope Mailing List > Subject: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?) > > > Erik Enge wrote: > > > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Chris Withers wrote: > > > > > Hmm, about extending this so you have 'rotating data.fs > files' in the > > > same way you have rotating log files? > > > > In general, yes :-). Do you think it would be solving the > right problem > > the right way? > > I think so, but that's only my view. > > If anyone's got any better ideas, please pipe up :-) > > cheers, > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Re: Question (was on zope-ptk)
by Steve Alexander 30 Jun '00

30 Jun '00

Hi Jonathan, I arbitrarily deem this to be a Zope(a)zope.org rather than a zope-ptk(a)zope.org question, so I'll move it there :-) Jonathan Desp, who wants to upload a lot of files into Zope, wrote: > > someone said me to use load site, but there is a bug with this program. What is the bug in loadsite that is stopping you from using it? You have a couple of options here we haven't explored yet: 1: Fix the bug in loadsite yourself. 2: Describe the bug in sufficient detail that someone else feels moved to spend time fixing it. > Anyone know another way to upload 900 files in one shot ? What kind of files are they? What do you want to do with them once they're in Zope? Is uploading these files a recurring need you have, or is it a one-off? -- Steve Alexander Software Engineer Cat-Box limited http://www.cat-box.net

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ZPatterns: Deleting objects from a Rack?
by Jeff Hoffman 30 Jun '00

30 Jun '00

Ok, I have a stupid question. I have succeeded in creating a ZClass (a subclass of DataSkin) and instantiating a few instances in the defaultRack of my Specialist using my Specialist's newItem() method. Rock. However, search as I might, I cannot figure out how to delete an item once it's been created. On gut instinct, I figured there would be a deleteItem() to complement the newItem() method. No such luck. What am I missing? Is there a management tab I'm not clicking on somewhere? A method I haven't found? A clue I don't have? :-) Thanks, --Jeff --- Jeff K. Hoffman 704.849.0731 x108 Chief Technology Officer mailto:jeff.hoffman@goingv.com Going Virtual, L.L.C. http://www.goingv.com/

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dhtml-try broken in 2.2.0b3?
by Cary O'Brien 30 Jun '00

30 Jun '00

I was porting some stuff that had a dtml-try to the newest Zope (2.2.0b3) and I had problems with a dtml-try block. I tried a fresh install and had the same problem. To reproduce, create a DHTML method with <dtml-try> <dtml-var "1/0"> <dtml-except> <h4>It blew up</h4> </dtml-try> Accessing the document errors out with... Zope Error Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. Error Type: TypeError Error Value: unexpected keyword argument: error_type [Snip] File /usr2/zope2/Zope-2.2.0b3-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Try.py, line 212, in render File /usr2/zope2/Zope-2.2.0b3-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Try.py, line 244, in render_try_except File /usr2/zope2/Zope-2.2.0b3-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line 262, in namespace TypeError: (see above) So I'm back to 2.1.6. Arrg. Any ideas? -- cary

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Re: [ZCommerce] Secure storage of credit card info
by Curtis Maloney 30 Jun '00

30 Jun '00

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: > Just to make those people who think "It will never happen to me" think > twice, the Australian Government Treasury site was hacked and lots of > banking details about lots of small businesses was released. > > The Australian Treasury was very happy with their security too. Until > yesterday. Whilst I agree that "It will never happen to me" is a stupid stance, the ATO web site was not 'hacked'. As an example, the Federal Police and the government are NOT doing anything to the person. What happened was somebody noticed that a number in the URL for a page of their details matched their ID number, and tried some others. Upon finding they worked, he wrote a script to try numbers, munge the page, and e-mail people their details. This showed a serious flaw in the design of the site, but it was not 'hacked'. Perhaps the lesson to learn here is: Crackers are NOT the only people you need to protect yourself from. Have a better one, Curtis Maloney. <dtml-var standard_work_disclaimer>

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RE: Ref mxODBC and Zope
by Jay, Dylan 30 Jun '00

30 Jun '00

no, but I have since worked out how do it... I think. The problem is that the DateTime module of mxODBC is compiled. It needs to be renamed or repackaged to prevent the name confict. Then it needs to be recompiled. On unix I don't think this is very hard. However I am windows and this will require me to install MSVC and learn how to compile a python module dll from c code. This is not something I've had the time for. So if you or anyone else has achieved this or wants to give it a go I would dearly love a copy of the resulting dll. A mxODBC DA would drasticly improve the performance of my site. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Morgan [mailto:mmorgan@vivaldi.saic.com] > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 10:45 AM > To: djay(a)LUCENT.COM > Subject: Ref mxODBC and Zope > > > Jay - > > Sorry to bother you, but did anyone give you pointers on importing > mxODBC into a Zope product? > > Thanks > > Mike Morgan > >

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Re: [Zope] WebOS and Zope
by Jason Spisak 30 Jun '00

30 Jun '00

Curtis Maloney writes: ILet me correct myself, when I said they were going to release it opensource, it looks like just their HyperOffice suite and apps, not the "OS" itself. :( > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Jason Spisak wrote: > > Zopists, > > > > I have been away for a bit, and will be gone again soon, but I found > > this the other day: > > Has anyone checked out http://www.webos.com ? > > It's free to sign up, just use explorer 5.0 and try it. > > I was amazed. It has drag and drop, looks like a real desktop. > > > > Interestingly enough, I had recently been joking about with some friends > about doing something like this. Simulating a Win9x desktop with ZOPE and > Javascript. > I don't know jack about javascript really. Is that all they are using to simulate drag and drop and a desktop? > > Now for the Zope angle: > > > > I am curious if anyone thinks Zope can server up content like this? XML > > Desktop? > I figured storing most of the info in XMLDocuments would be the simplest... > > > I think they are using ColdFusion though. An actual webtop powered by > > Zope. > > What would it take? > > > Hmm... well, about 2 weeks of uninterrupted time and I'd suprise even myself > with how much it did. (o8 > And then we woke up. > > They say they are going to release it OpenSource on their developer > > page. ;) > > > Ooh... sounds neat. > > > All my best, > > Have a better one, > Curtis. > > <dtml-var standard_work_disclaimer> All my best, Jason Spisak CIO HireTechs.com 6151 West Century Boulevard Suite 900 Los Angeles, CA 90045 P. 310.665.3444 F. 310.665.3544 Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

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Kid clicking and Zope thread deadlock
by Hung Jung Lu 30 Jun '00

30 Jun '00

Yikes, I was affraid that I might get kid clicking problems in Zope. And now I got it. Help is needed. "Kid clicking" is a technical term used in multimedia game programs, referring to firing multiple click events quickly. The most scary part is that under intense clicking, a multi-threaded program would go into dead-lock. I have a Zope application running. When I kid-click on one button, it actually locks Zope up. This error does not happen when I run Zope in single-thread mode. So, for the bug seems to come from Zope thread dead-locking. Good thing is that it is reproducible. So I will start to trace the origin of the deadlock, all the way down into Zope internals if necessary. But help will be appreciated. My Zope is 2.1.6. More info: it happens both with Netscape and IE. More info: when kid clicking on the webpage, actual requests are sent to the Zope server, I see from the terminal 4 lines about 2000-06-30T00:29:43 PROBLEM(100) ZSybaseDA Changed database context to 'master'. Changed database context to 'mydatabase'. and it then goes into deadlock. Not sure whether it's Sybase or Zope problem. By the way: how can browsers be so stupid as to send requests out for each repeated button click? Shouldn't them lock up the webpage right away? Browsers do lock up after an anchor is clicked, but why don't they lock up after a button is clicked??!! Arrghh... regards, Hung Jung ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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Zope for Client / Server Game advice seeked
by David Stidolph 30 Jun '00

30 Jun '00

I'm working on a Client / Server game. My plan is to write the Game code on the server (and some on the client) in Python and use Zope as the persistent database solution and interface to the server. The game objects will probably be based on C++ objects and I was considering using SOAP as the transport for all non-high traffic messages between the server and the client (high volume messages will probably have to go UDP). For UI I was thinking of DHTML with a Windows application using IE 5.5 embedded in it. This is a high level look at what I was considering and I am looking for advice and opinions - especially in regards to Zope or other alternatives. I know the magnatude of the project - I do have some others to help, but I am the only one with actual game development experience. The game code WILL be Open Source and is primarily to teach myself and others some new technology with a intereasting purpose. Thanks in advance, David Stidolph (or email dstidolph(a)mshow.com for work email)

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Re: [Zope] Newbie question on Zope and WorldPilot
by Angel Rivera 29 Jun '00

29 Jun '00

thanks that did it... At 11:48 AM 6/29/00 -0600, Bryan Stillwell wrote: >On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Angel Rivera wrote: > > > Hey Zope Meisters!!!! > > > > I am a newbie who is trying hard to get WorldPilot to > > run. i think i got most of it to work until it comes to add > > a WorldPilot Product Instance and no matter what I have > > tried it will not work. Can someone direct me to a doc > > or give me help? TIA, -ar > > > > Zope is: Zope-2.1.6-solaris-2.6-sparc > > WorldPilot is 1.0.4 > >Here's what worked for me: > >id: worldpilot >title: WorldPilot Testing >IMAP: imap.whatever.com >SMTP: mail.whatever.com > >Bryan > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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