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Re: [Zope] Zope and Editors
by Anthony Baxter 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

>>> Stephan Richter wrote > But here my question: > I do not want to use a HTML textarea to edit my code. I prefer to use emacs. > How do you use external editors with Zope? Do you import files all the time? > Or do you copy and paste? Both of these solutions are not desirable, since > I check my code every few minutes. I would spend more time uploading to the > system. couple of options here (hmm, these should be pulled out of the email archive and turned into a HOWTO - no, don't look at me :) (note that I talk zero credit (or blame) for any of the following ideas) * Zope allows you to ftp in and upload DTML and images and the like. emacs allows you to edit files on a remote ftp filesystem, using EFS (?) (someone who uses this please give me a sample of emacs syntax?) You could also use any other form of ftp browser/text browser that allows you to transparently edit remote files via ftp - I'd be suprised if KDE or GNOME didn't have this. * Zope has Webdav support - does emacs? IE5 does (well, if you read the zope-checkins list and see Brian's commit messages, IE5 sorta has webdav support) * Netscape's HTML textarea widget has some limited number of emacs keybindings. This is what I use, because I hate the full emacs with a passion. If mozilla allowed me to embed nvi (the OneTrueVi) into a html textarea widget, I'd be a happy bunny :) * You could write something that let you edit text files, and batch uploaded (either via ftp, or via the Zope Client interface) the files. Anyone else got other bits to add? Anthony -- Anthony Baxter <anthony(a)interlink.com.au> It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

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Re: [Zope] Creating a New Object Type - Use ZClass or Python?
by Michael Bernstein 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

Christopher Petrilli wrote: > > > But as far as I'm concerned, there is still a big gaping hole with regard to > > associating object instances non-heirarchicaly. The ZODB will support this, > it's > > possible to build DTML interfaces for this, but it's not part of the current > > management interface. I think it should be, BEFORE Zope 2.0 is finalized, and > > I'm willing to shell out some cash to make it happen. > > Just to clarify this, Zope 2 is at FEATURE FREEZE, and is only going through > bug fixes. Any requests for new features, paid or unpaid will not be > satiated be 2.0 is released in the "very near future." > > It is our policy that once a product has entered the beta stage that no > additional features are added, those may only occur at the alpha stage or > prior. Oh. Darn. What is the roadmap post-2.0? are you going to do 2.x releases, or will you save up most changes for a 3.0 release after another long alpha period? Michael Bernstein.

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RE: [Zope] Database Time errors.
by Michel Pelletier 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

> > But, in version 2b1 only right ? > right. I'm not sure if the utility deals with ZODB2 databases. -Michel

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RE: [Zope] Database Time errors.
by Michel Pelletier 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ze Octavio [mailto:joc@hiper.com.br] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:45 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Database Time errors. > > > > > Use utilities/fixbbbts.py It will copy your database, > restamping all of > > the time records to the present. > > Michel, where can I find this module ? Thank You. > > In the top level Zope folder you will see a folder named 'utilities' it is in there. -Michel

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RE: [Zope] Zope and Editors
by Paul Everitt 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

Stephan wrote: > I personally like file extensions. I think everything behind > the last dot (.) > should define the file type. Always. I think that would be > also good for Zope. > Why write index_html, when you can write index.html? Hmm, here are the reasons: 1) It means that all metadata has to be shoe-horned into the filename. The web object model cured this by having headers that express things like Content-Type. 2) Python doesn't allow dots as object ids. 3) It rarely works. For instance, does .doc mean Word6, Word95, Word98, or Word2000? Next, if you define a ZClass for Customer, do you have .cst as the magic ending? .cust? .customer? > > Even worse, how would you edit the arguments list in a SQL > method via > > FTP? > Good Question. You could do something similar to HTML. The > entire document > is a SQL Method document. Then you have a "tag" (similar to > head), maybe called > ARGS to define the arguments. And use the BODY tag to specify > the SQL statement > Example: > File name: qryGetMembersByGender.smf (smo - SQL Method File) > Content: > >  > gender:string = "f" >  > >  # Having a type allows to use that > format with other doc types > SELECT * FROM members > WHERE gender=  >  > > Note: I hope my example has the right syntax. I am still a > little shaky, since > I started coding in DTML last night. :) Now you're getting closer. Imagine the above as XML. You could encode what kind of thing it is and all the structure for the thing. You could even add/edit a whole bunch at one time. > > We have some pretty good suggestions on how to do this, but first it > > would be interesting to hear other ideas. > > I hope I was of any help. > > My question: > I was just reading the Zope manual and read about Sessions. I > know the > manual is written for Zope 1.10 and I have Zope 2.0 Beta 1, > but I could not > find the Session options. I personally believe they are very valuable. Yes, they are quite useful > Another question: Can I give different permissions to edit > information and > publish them. For example, iXL has many clients that want to > use Content > Management. But before any content from any department gets > finally published a > web editor must read it and approve the content (grammar and > spelling ...). > Does Zope's permissions are able to do this? This is one of the few infrastructure things that we'll be looking at for the remainder of the year (workflow). As always, our priorities are set by our consulting business. As soon as we have a project that requires workflow, we'll start working on it. --Paul

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RE: [Zope] Database Time errors.
by Michel Pelletier 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Aspuru Guzik [mailto:aspuru@okra.cchem.berkeley.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:13 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Database Time errors. > > > > Hello fellow Zope users, > I need your help in this issue. I've been working on ZOPE in my Alpha > running Linux. I had some problems with the clock in it and worked > inadvertently in ZOPE in 2027. ow I am facing several difficulties, because each time I > start ZOPE, I > have the following server error: > Basically, what I want is to *recover* my database (ie. for instance, > resetting all the dates of the items stored in it to a > "reasonable" date) > I have about four days of work in it, so I hope anyone can > help me... is > there a BoboPOS database editor or something like that? > Use utilities/fixbbbts.py It will copy your database, restamping all of the time records to the present. -Michel > Greetings and THANKS for your help, > > Alan Aspuru > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (To receive general Zope announcements, see: > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > For developer-specific issues, zope-dev(a)zope.org - > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] Printing SQL search results
by Michel Pelletier 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Holten [mailto:donner@biophysics.lanl.gov] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:16 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Printing SQL search results > > > Whenever I try: >  > to list the users in my database, I get no results. I > know there are > currently two users in the database. How can I get it to > print the proper > results? What are the details of the list_Users method? Arguments? SQL contents? -Michel > Donner > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (To receive general Zope announcements, see: > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > For developer-specific issues, zope-dev(a)zope.org - > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] Zope and Editors
by Michel Pelletier 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Stephan Richter [mailto:SRichter@ixl.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:29 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope and Editors > > My question: > I was just reading the Zope manual and read about Sessions. I > know the > manual is written for Zope 1.10 and I have Zope 2.0 Beta 1, > but I could not > find the Session options. I personally believe they are very valuable. What were sessions are now called versions. Somehow the docs got reverted. > Another question: Can I give different permissions to edit > information and > publish them. For example, iXL has many clients that want to > use Content > Management. But before any content from any department gets > finally published a > web editor must read it and approve the content (grammar and > spelling ...). > Does Zope's permissions are able to do this? This is an application workflow requirement you would need to design into Zope yourself, Zope can't make any assumptions about workflow, otherwise it would be to inflexible and probably nearly useless for specific application requirements. -Michel

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RE: [Zope] Printing SQL search results
by Donald Holten 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

list_Users is: select * from Users order by lastname Each user has a first name, a last name, etc... I would like to print these out in the same table format the test that Zope runs prints them out in. Donner

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RE: [Zope] Zope and Editors
by Stephan Richter 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

> Any suggestions, though, on how to do this? The only way currently to > tell what to add via FTP is by the normal "magic" stuff (file > extensions, investigating the content, etc. I personally like file extensions. I think everything behind the last dot (.) should define the file type. Always. I think that would be also good for Zope. Why write index_html, when you can write index.html? > Even worse, how would you edit the arguments list in a SQL method via > FTP? Good Question. You could do something similar to HTML. The entire document is a SQL Method document. Then you have a "tag" (similar to head), maybe called ARGS to define the arguments. And use the BODY tag to specify the SQL statement Example: File name: qryGetMembersByGender.smf (smo - SQL Method File) Content:  gender:string = "f"   # Having a type allows to use that format with other doc types SELECT * FROM members WHERE gender=   Note: I hope my example has the right syntax. I am still a little shaky, since I started coding in DTML last night. :) > We have some pretty good suggestions on how to do this, but first it > would be interesting to hear other ideas. I hope I was of any help. My question: I was just reading the Zope manual and read about Sessions. I know the manual is written for Zope 1.10 and I have Zope 2.0 Beta 1, but I could not find the Session options. I personally believe they are very valuable. Another question: Can I give different permissions to edit information and publish them. For example, iXL has many clients that want to use Content Management. But before any content from any department gets finally published a web editor must read it and approve the content (grammar and spelling ...). Does Zope's permissions are able to do this? stephan -- Stephan Richter iXL - Software Designer and Engineer -- Stephan Richter iXL - Software Designer and Engineer

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