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- ZAP for Win32?
by Michael Bernstein 13 May '99

13 May '99

Will there be a ZAP (Zope Apache) package for win32 on the zope site anytime soon? Michael Bernstein.

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test- Please ignore
by Phil Harris 13 May '99

13 May '99

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Competitors
by Tom Deprez 13 May '99

13 May '99

I think Zope is getting some pretty competitors.... Gist, works object oriented, and can connect to different databases... Only, at the moment, Zope is the only one who can run with several http servers.... altough Zope prefers Medusa or ZopeHTTPServer, because running Zope with Apache (or others) isn't that easy to accomplish. And probably has some more features I don't know or think at the moment I want to stress out, one important point. If you want that customers use your product, then you've to give them a lot of examples of what the product is capable. Examples, examples, examples.... don't forget this! This is the most important thing! (examples and documentation). If you've a great product, with lots of features, but don't let people see how they can use these features, people will turn to another product. Even if your product is better then the competitor. It's always been like this and it will always be that way. So, when launching Zope 2.0, dress up the Zope website with lots of screenshots and an unbelievable amount of clear examples. Ranching from the simplistic to the advanced... Regards, Tom.

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Re: [Zope] Coming May 19
by Tom Deprez 13 May '99

13 May '99

Woow, no already Zope 2!!! Great.... We can't keep up with our documentations.... I've to change again everything I've written about Zope... (ie. benefits, ....) Tom. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fulton <jim(a)digicool.com> To: zope(a)zope.org <zope(a)zope.org> Date: donderdag 13 mei 1999 1:58 Subject: [Zope] Coming May 19 : :Zope 2.0 Alpha 1 source release ... : : This will include ZODB 3 fully integrated with Zope. : :"May the source be with you." ;) : :Jim : :-- :Jim Fulton mailto:jim@digicool.com Python Powered! :Technical Director (888) 344-4332 http://www.python.org :Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com http://www.zope.org : :Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email :address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my :permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will :result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for :repeats. : :_______________________________________________ :Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org :http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope : :(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, :zope-dev@zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) :

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Re: [Zope] Zope Weekly News
by Tom Deprez 13 May '99

13 May '99

Amos, Great idea for posting this to the list too! I didn't know about lwn... Maybe it's a good idea to place it also on the zope site? ie. Make a tree per month and per week and drop your summaries into it? Tom. -----Original Message----- From: Amos Latteier <Amos(a)digicool.com> To: 'zope(a)zope.org' <zope(a)zope.org> Date: donderdag 13 mei 1999 4:16 Subject: [Zope] Zope Weekly News :Hello Zopistas: : :As some of you may know, I've been writing summaries of Zope list :activity and sending them to Linux Weekly News (http://www.lwn.net/) :each week for the past couple weeks. : :Since I have so much trouble keeping up with the Zope lists, I figured :that some of you might too, and coupled with my surmise that not :everyone reads LWN, I was led to the idea to post my summaries to the :Zope list as well. : :So here's this week's summary. : :-Amos : :P.S. I'm definitely interested in feedback. Did I miss something :important? Let me know and I'll include it in the next summary. : :-- : :It's been a pretty busy week in Zopeland. Lots of announcements, lots of :activity on the Zope Documentation Project list, lots of questions, and :even some answers. : :(Note: Unfortunately this week there is a problem with the Zope mailing :list archive which prevents the listing of normal URLs to go along with :all news items. This should be fixed by next week. So this week I am :substituting egroups URLs as needed.) : : * Jim Fulton, technical director at Digital Creations, and Zope guru :number one, announced that on May 19 there will be a Zope 2.0 Alpha 1 :source release. This means we are getting closer to having a fully :threaded Zope! The only question is whether to hack Zope that day or see :that new movie, what's it called again... : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4913.html : : * Beehive held the first Berlin Zope Barbecue! Not only that, but it :was broadcast live on the net. : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4716.html : : * Paul Everitt asked for help with work writing a short piece of Zope :for a forth-coming O'Reilly book on Python and Windows. He also posted a :partial implementation of a COM Method object. However, it seems that :perhaps the turnaround time on this project is too short for much of a :community effort. : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4724.html : : * Many people discussed problems with IE and the latest Zope release. :It looks like its an issue of HTTP headers. : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4732.html : : * Paul Everitt made a long post about Zope on an Infoworld forum about :open source and business and generated some interesting comments. : : http://forums.infoworld.com/threads/get.cgi?111585 : : There was also some related traffic on the mailing list : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4646.html : : * Zope showed up on Scripting News on Wednesday. : : http://news.userland.com/1999/05/12/ : : * Ty Sarna posted an experimental Symbolic Link Product. : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4768.html : http://www.zope.org/Download/Contrib/Pointer.tar.gz : : * Luciano Ramalho offered an example of an External Method which helps :organize links to Documents inside Folders. : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4908.html : : * Jordan B. Baker announced a DTML mode for XEmacs. : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4764.html : ftp://ftp.spyderlab.com/pub/zope/dtml-mode-0.1.tar.gz : : : * Amos Latteier posted a rough draft of a ZClasses tutorial. Lots of :folks are starting to use ZClasses now. Information is still scarce and :lots of things are still changing (witness CVS activity), however more :information is emerging and people are discovering cool things. : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4700.html : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4757.html : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4846.html : : * Mark Hays offered some security enhancements to the CookieCutter :Product. : : http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/4776.html?raw=1 : :_______________________________________________ :Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org :http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope : :(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, :zope-dev@zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) :

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Generic Information Server Toolkit
by Oleg Broytmann 13 May '99

13 May '99

Hello! Looks like yet another tool for creating dynamic sites: http://gist.jrc.it/ Oleg. ---- Oleg Broytmann National Research Surgery Centre http://sun.med.ru/~phd/ Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.

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Timezones
by Jay, Dylan 13 May '99

13 May '99

I'm in australia and my timezone isn't supported until the next release. Why does zope not use the python information about the timezone? Why duplicate the mapping? It seems insane to me.

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RE: [Zope] I want to access AUTHENTICATED_USER on all pages.
by Michel Pelletier 13 May '99

13 May '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jay, Dylan [mailto:djay@lucent.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:33 PM > To: 'zope(a)zope.org' > Subject: [Zope] I want to access AUTHENTICATED_USER on all pages. > > > Once a user has logged in with basic authentication I would > like the var > AUTHENTICATED_USER to be not Anonymous on all subsequent > pages, even ones > that are publicly viewable. Is this possible? or it a browser > thing? Would > this work if I was using cookie authentication? > Hmm. It sounds like your either looking for a placeholder for AUTHENTICATED_USER or some sort of membership system where your users identities are tracked (and assigned to AUTHENTICATED_USER), even for publicly viewable pages. The first one isn't too hard, but not too useful either:   ...   (Note: if your using 1.10.2 the _ namespace is not callable, you'll ahve to say ) The membership part is a bit harder. You might want to wait for us to release our Membership system which we will be making available Real Soon Now. (it's based on cookies). -Michel (must get sleeeeeeeep) > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] RE: What method do I use to check access?
by Michel Pelletier 13 May '99

13 May '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jay, Dylan [mailto:djay@lucent.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:28 PM > To: 'Martijn Pieters'; 'Jason Spisak'; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] RE: What method do I use to check access? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martijn Pieters [mailto:mj@antraciet.nl] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 10:23 PM > > To: Jay, Dylan; 'Jason Spisak'; zope(a)zope.org > > Subject: Re: [Zope] RE: What method do I use to check access? > > > > > > At 01:28 11/05/99 , Jay, Dylan wrote: > > > > Jay, > > > > > > > > Try . > There was an > > > > excellent posting in the archives about all the > > possibilities with the > > > > user object. Also read the files in the AccessControl > > folder inside > > > > Zope/lib/python. > > > > > >the has_role method I already use and is not convienient as > > it means I have > > >to hard code the roles. > > >I've looked in AccessControl and only come across > > >def allowed(self,parent,roles=None): > > >but was unsuccessful in getting it to do what I want. > > > > > >I will look for that email in the archives. > > > > AUTHENTICATED_USER.allowed won't do what you want, I think. A now > > deprecated method that is now replaced by has_role was > > nothing more than an > > alias to the allowed() method, so you cannot get any (or much) more > > information from allowed() than you can get from has_role(). > > > > Explain to us what you want to do. > > I want a method such that >  > or something similar. > I've never seen or used anything like this, so perhaps you may want to try to refactor your problem, otherwise: Users don't have permissions, Users have roles. Using the security screen in the managment interface, you map which roles have which permissions, and when you create Users, you give them roles. If your user is in a Role which has the 'View' permission associated with it, then you don't need to do the #if check. I think maybe what your looking for is "Do any of my User's *Roles* map to the permission x?". (Not using 'View' as an example because anonymous maps to 'View' by default) This would require a bit of tinkering, but it could be done with AUTHENTICATED_USER.getRoles() and rolesOfPermission(x). You may also want to talk a look at AccessControl/Roles.py, there are several methods defined in there to exampine roles and permissions, like permissionsOfRole (the inverse of rolesOfPermision) and acquiredRolesAreUsedBy. -Michel > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] RE: What method do I use to check access?
by Jay, Dylan 13 May '99

13 May '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Martijn Pieters [mailto:mj@antraciet.nl] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 10:23 PM > To: Jay, Dylan; 'Jason Spisak'; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] RE: What method do I use to check access? > > > At 01:28 11/05/99 , Jay, Dylan wrote: > > > Jay, > > > > > > Try . There was an > > > excellent posting in the archives about all the > possibilities with the > > > user object. Also read the files in the AccessControl > folder inside > > > Zope/lib/python. > > > >the has_role method I already use and is not convienient as > it means I have > >to hard code the roles. > >I've looked in AccessControl and only come across > >def allowed(self,parent,roles=None): > >but was unsuccessful in getting it to do what I want. > > > >I will look for that email in the archives. > > AUTHENTICATED_USER.allowed won't do what you want, I think. A now > deprecated method that is now replaced by has_role was > nothing more than an > alias to the allowed() method, so you cannot get any (or much) more > information from allowed() than you can get from has_role(). > > Explain to us what you want to do. I want a method such that  or something similar.

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