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Is a JPython implemention within the realm of possibility?
by Bern McCarty 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

I am wondering if it is within the realm of possibility that the Zope project might eventually support operation as a Java program (under JPython) in addition to operation under traditional Python. I know it would probably be a large undertaking and that there may well be better places to spend precious energy, but I thought I'd register my interest in the prospect. In our case it is a given that a specialized JVM will be embedded in all of our products and more and more of our own source will be written in Java, so code which can integrate with Java easily is all the more interesting to us. We already have a product which uses traditional Python behind a web server to provide an entirely through-the-web user interface for product configuration/administration. My aim has been to replace the traditional Python with JPython since we'll have lot's of Java stuff we'll want to be using on the server going forward anyway. It looks like Zope would enable us to do what we are already doing more easily (and therefore better). So here's hoping we'll one day see Z-over-P-over-J. Yeah. I know it would have to be slower. Zope looks cool. Bern McCarty

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Connecting Zope to Sybase: Linux or Irix ?
by pj＠sam.engr.sgi.com 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

I'm just beginning with Zope, and just beginning with a project to develop some new software product management (bug tracking and such) tools for use within Silicon Graphics (SGI). Zope appears to be an excellent fit for many of our needs. I will need to connect with an existing large Sybase database (the existing bug data). I can freely choose to use either Linux or Irix for the server side operating system. >From which server O.S. would it be easiest to get Zope connected to Sybase? Something I read on www.zope.org led me to suspect that I should use Irix, so that I can use our Sybase licensed library, and that Linux wouldn't work, because of a lack of the needed library. Is that so? Any other obvious factors that I should consider in this choice? ======================================================================= I won't rest till it's the best ... Software Production Engineer Paul Jackson (pj(a)sgi.com; pj(a)usa.net) 3x1373 http://sam.engr.sgi.com/pj

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MailHost problems.
by Jose.Lacal＠icn.siemens.com 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

Folks: Error message when trying to send e-mail from a Zope-generated web-form. I did RTFM at http://www.zope.org/Documentation/HowTo/MailForm and I still get the following error message:  <HR> <P>Copyright 1999 Siemens I & CN. Maintained by <A HREF="mailto:jose.lacal@icn.siemens.com">Jose C. Lacal</A>. <A HREF="http://www.linux.org"> <IMG SRC="images/logosml2" ALIGN="TOP"></A></P> </BODY></HTML>  Platform: Red Hat 5.1 Zope 1.10.2 Both sendmail and DNS are properly installed since I was able to send e-mail using "sendmail -v jose.lacal(a)icn.siemens.com < letter" I'm no Zope expert, so any suggestions appreciated. Regards.

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RE: [Zope] Zope and Apache - again
by Michel Pelletier 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: raver(a)box.dust.za.net [mailto:raver@box.dust.za.net] > Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 7:23 AM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Zope and Apache - again > Now - here is my current config: > > Linux 2.0.35 > Python 1.5.1 > Zope 1.10.2 > Apache 1.3.4 > > Something there that doesn't play well together? > The only difference between your setup and the setup used to compile Zap is that Zap was compiled on a RedHat 5.2 machine, with the stock 2.0.36 kernel. Your using 2.0.35, does that imply RedHat 5.1? If so there might be an incompatability with Zap on 5.1. Has anyone on the list gotten Zap working on this platform? Also, please send us the details of the error you get with Zap. When you say it's broken, how does it break? Does the starzap script fail to run? Does it say 'Apache did NOT start sucessfuly' and then spit up the last 10 lines of your error log? If so, what are those lines? -Michel > > Sture Lygren > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >

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RE: [Zope] Is a JPython implemention within the realm of possibil ity?
by Paul Everitt 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

Bern wrote: > I am wondering if it is within the realm of possibility that the Zope > project might eventually support operation as a Java program > (under JPython) > in addition to operation under traditional Python. I know it > would probably > be a large undertaking and that there may well be better > places to spend > precious energy, but I thought I'd register my interest in > the prospect. This was one of the things that I hoped to see by going Open Source. So far there have been ports to operating systems that we just wouldn't have supported, which is a great to see. I'm intrigued by someone that really knows Java picking up a JZope effort. As for Digital Creations, I doubt you'll see us focus on it unless one of our consulting customers requires it. Same old story -- never enought time :^( --Paul Paul Everitt Digital Creations paul(a)digicool.com 540.371.6909

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RE: [Zope] Is a JPython implemention within the realm of possibil ity?
by Michel Pelletier 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bern McCarty [mailto:Bern.McCarty@bentley.com] > Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 2:15 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Is a JPython implemention within the realm of > possibility? > > > > I am wondering if it is within the realm of possibility that the Zope > project might eventually support operation as a Java program > (under JPytho <snip> > So > here's hoping we'll one day see Z-over-P-over-J. > I am not the expert about this, but: Zope is written entirely in Python, except for a few 'kernel' like components written in C. If you translate these components into Java, you might just have something there. I'm not a Java guy so I have no real idea. > Yeah. I know it would have to be slower. >From what Ken was telling me JPython is actually quite well designed and speedy, even for a Java program. :) If you've commited yourself to Java then I assume you've allready resigned yourself to the performance penalty and are considering it in your engineering goals. Performance may not be your primary goal in the first place. > > Zope looks cool. Oh it is. > > Bern McCarty > -Michel > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >

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RE: [Zope] Zope and Apache - again
by Paul Everitt 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

> If it works - is there someone that can say exactly how > apache should be > configured and compiled to get it working (best of all also > put in a working > httpd.conf also)? We'd prefer that you start with the Zap distribution, as it removes a whole bunch of variables. Can you tell us what was the error with using Zap? --Paul

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NotMail 0.0.5 alpha release
by Michel Pelletier 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

Greetings Zopesters, I have been working on a little pet Zope Product project for months now. Getting hired at digicool put the brakes on it a little but I have finally gotten the time to polish it up a bit for alpha release. Check out: http://starship.python.net:9673/crew/furtrapper/NotMail for NotMail. NotMail is a clone of 'other' popular web-mail interfaces. Please download and evaluate. But first a word of warning: NotMail is alpha. It is being released with the intention of harvesting other developers who are interesting in breaking it, fixing it, and improving it. Although it is a cool program, it is unstable (try pointing it at Exchange!) and not complete. I have tried to document it in code as much as possible, and it does contain a nice README.txt. You are expected to be able to infer the workings of NotMail by the source, or by telepathy, whatever. If NotMail makes your hard drive partition go bye-bye or makes your imap server think it's a dhcp server that's the way the cookie crumbles. Okay, now a word of license: NotMail is released under the GNU General Public License. Give yourself a piece of mind and send the Free Software Foundation a donation. You'd do it for NPR wouldn't you? Now a kind word about Digital Creations: Digicool has been kind enough to let me waste a small fraction of my time to release this today. They also let me use their computer to check my personal mail, etc. Please don't infer that because I work for Digicool that NotMail is a product of Digital Creations. Please do not submit NotMail bugs to the Collector or send reports to support(a)digicool.com. These things are for Zope and other Digicool products. It is ok to discuss it in the list but I'd prefer all discussion happen using the cool Confera discussion that can be found in the same place you can get NotMail. Regards, Michel

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RE: [Zope] ZMySQLDA installation
by Shaw, Howard 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

You need to install python... Or adjust the Makefile.pre.in to look at Zope's internal python, instead of trying to find the external one. Actually, from a quick runthrough of the Makefile.pre.in, you should set the enviroment variable PYTHON to point to the local python binary; I mean the one internal to zope, like PYTHON=/home/zope/bin/python export PYTHON (in bash) or setenv PYTHON /home/zope/bin/python (in tcsh) ... (and no I am not quite certain on the syntax here). The 'make -f Makefile.pre.in boot' appears to call $(PYTHON) with parameters that cause it to return the proper location for the python configuration files, etc. Good luck. > ---------- > From: Timothy Grant[SMTP:tjg@avalongroup.net] > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 5:39 PM > To: Zope Folk > Subject: [Zope] ZMySQLDA installation > > Hi all, > > This is probably more of a newbie Linux question than a newbie Zope > question, but I'm going to ask it here anyway: > > I would like to connect Zope to a database, so I have setup both > PostgreSQL and MySQL. My reading tells me that MySQL is probably the > better choice as a web backend (Any comments from those of you more > knowledgable than I would be appreciated!) So I downloaded the MySQL > source, compiled, installed and tested it. It looks like I did it > right. > I then downloaded the ZMySQLDA from the Zope site. > > I have followed the directions--I think, but get the following error > when trying to do the initial make: > > [tjg@puddleglum src]$ make -f Makefile.pre.in boot > rm -f *.o *~ > rm -f *.a tags TAGS config.c Makefile.pre python sedscript > rm -f *.so *.sl so_locations > VERSION=`python -c "import sys; print sys.version[:3]"`; \ > installdir=`python -c "import sys; print sys.prefix"`; \ > exec_installdir=`python -c "import sys; print sys.exec_prefix"`; \ > make -f ./Makefile.pre.in VPATH=. srcdir=. \ > VERSION=$VERSION \ > installdir=$installdir \ > exec_installdir=$exec_installdir \ > Makefile > make[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/local/zope/Zope-1.10.0pr1-linux2-x86/lib/pytho > n/Products/ZMySQLDA/src' > make[1]: *** No rule to make target > `/usr/lib/python1.5/config/Makefile', needed > by `sedscript'. Stop. > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/local/zope/Zope-1.10.0pr1-linux2-x86/lib/python > /Products/ZMySQLDA/src' > make: *** [boot] Error 2 > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > Stand Fast, > tjg. > =================================================== > Timothy Grant > VP Technology/CTO > Avalon Technology Group > tjg(a)avalongroup.net > www.avalongroup.net > (503) 246-3630 voice > (503) 246-3124 fax > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >

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DTML Newbie questions
by Wiebe Kunst 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

Can somebody please help me out. I've read through most of the postings to the list, but I'm still in the dark. I have defined a DTML documentproperty of type lines. Each line represents the ID of another DTML document. When using:   <BR>  I get the ID's. I tried all kinds of variations on this code (including the ones suggested by Amos) but are still unable to turn those ID's into rendered objects. Regards Wiebe Kunst

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