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Re: [Zope] - zope jitterbug
by Dinu C. Gherman 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

-----Original Message----- From: Paul Everitt <Paul(a)digicool.com> To: Alan Wostenberg <awostenb(a)baan.com>; zope(a)zope.org <zope(a)zope.org> Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 4:17 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] - zope jitterbug > http://www.digicool.com/site/Collector/ > >The biggest problem we had in doing the Collector was requirements. We >never had the discipline to write down what we wanted it to do! Thus, I >think the first requirement for "Zitterbug" would be to focus on the >early part of the software lifecycle. I don't know anything about Jitterbug or something like that, but in my company we use an IBM dinosaur software called CMVC, Conf. Mgmt. Version Control, something long given up by IBM even... This calls for a remark that, based on daily experience, I'd expect users of such a system not only to deal with requirements, too, but also with a sound versioning concept, especially if you are to roll- out new or customer-specific versions on an almost daily basis as we do. It seems to me that a really good tool here would be a well-balanced combination of concepts from at least three key areas: versioning, database and development environment. So far I've seen no such animal in the Python world, but I'd love to be proven wrong, ASAP. ;-) Dinu --- Dinu C. Gherman LHS International AG : http://www.lhsgroup.com 8050 Zurich : http://www.zurich.ch Switzerland : mobile://49.172.3060751

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- Installation problem
by Dennis Scott 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

I downloaded Zope and followed the INSTALL.txt directions. The installation stops at the following: rm -f *.so *.sl so_locations VERSION=`/usr/bin/python -c "import sys; print sys.version[:3]"`; \ installdir=`/usr/bin/python -c "import sys; print sys.prefix"`; \ exec_installdir=`/usr/bin/python -c "import sys; print sys.exec_prefix"`; \ make -f ./Makefile.pre.in VPATH=. srcdir=. \ VERSION=$VERSION \ installdir=$installdir \ exec_installdir=$exec_installdir \ Makefile make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/Zope-1.9b1-src/lib/python' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/python1.5/config/Makefile', needed by `sedscript'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/Zope-1.9b1-src/lib/python' make: *** [boot] Error 2 Traceback (innermost last): File "wo_pcgi.py", line 100, in ? File "/usr/local/src/Zope-1.9b1-src/build_extensions.py", line 96, in ? make('lib','python') File "/usr/local/src/Zope-1.9b1-src/do.py", line 105, in make do('make -f Makefile.pre.in boot PYTHON=%s' % sys.executable) File "/usr/local/src/Zope-1.9b1-src/do.py", line 97, in do if i and picky: raise SystemError, i SystemError: 512 I am using Python 1.5.1 on Redhat Linux 5.2. Thanks Dennis Scott themenace(a)mindless.com

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RE: [Zope] - zope jitterbug
by Paul Everitt 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

Alan wrote: > I'm unfamiliar with Zope. Would it be an adequate tool to > build an internet > based bug tracking system: a clone of jitterbug (see > http://samba.anu.edu.au/jitterbug/ or > http://www.gnome.org/cgi-bin/bugs > )Would such a project be meaured in days, weeks, or months? Thanks! Yes, it would be a really good system for doing that. We build one over at: http://www.digicool.com/site/Collector/ based on our Tabula product that runs in Zope. The biggest problem we had in doing the Collector was requirements. We never had the discipline to write down what we wanted it to do! Thus, I think the first requirement for "Zitterbug" would be to focus on the early part of the software lifecycle. --Paul

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RE: [Zope] - Re: trying to subscribe
by Paul Everitt 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

Dinu wrote: > Joachim wrote: > >I tried it in the subject-line, in the body, in body and > > subjectline no > >response. > > > It worked for me, but - another problem - I can't set > the digest option, at least not by sending an email to > zope-request@... (haven't tried yet over HTTP), although > MailMan said my new settings were fine. > > Maybe MailMan is not yet fully operational? I get the Mailman admin messages and I've been getting a number of complaints from it. Perhaps someone here can help me with Mailman? (I _really_ need to subscribe to the Mailman list!) --------------------------------------------- **** Subject line ignored: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: paradise.mgs.net: host not found) >>>> This is a MIME-encapsulated message **** this: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> --XAA09335.913093181/albert.digicool.com **** --xaa09335.913093181/albert.digicool.com: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> The original message was received at Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:59:41 -0500 **** the: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> from localhost [127.0.0.1] **** from: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- **** -----: Command UNKNOWN. --------------------------------------------------------- Here's the one for digests: Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 37, in ? main() File "/home/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 34, in main list.SendDigestIfAny() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 194, in SendDigestIfAny self.SendDigestOnSize(0) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 206, in SendDigestOnSize self.SendDigest() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 288, in SendDigest self.DeliverToList(d.Present(mime=0), File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py", line 133, in DeliverToList status = cmdproc.close() IOError: (10, 'No child processes') --Paul

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- zope jitterbug
by Alan Wostenberg 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

I'm unfamiliar with Zope. Would it be an adequate tool to build an internet based bug tracking system: a clone of jitterbug (see http://samba.anu.edu.au/jitterbug/ or http://www.gnome.org/cgi-bin/bugs )Would such a project be meaured in days, weeks, or months? Thanks! Alan Wostenberg, Baan , Golden, Colorado

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Re: [Zope] - Some minor problems
by Jim Fulton 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

Ty Sarna wrote: > > My nightly security scan turned up two files in the distribution with > the SGID bit set: > > Checking setuid files and devices: > Setuid additions: > -rw-r-S--- 1 tsarna devel 605 Aug 12 06:03:46 1998 /endicor/home/tsarna/work/netbsd/pkgsrc/www/zope/work/Zope-1.9b1-src/lib/python/App/Setup > -rw-r-S--- 1 tsarna devel 833 Aug 14 11:49:53 1998 /endicor/home/tsarna/work/netbsd/pkgsrc/www/zope/work/Zope-1.9b1-src/lib/python/OFS/Setup > > Harmless, but should be fixed anyway :^) Weird. My checked out (from CVS) version doesn't have this setting but the release does. I'm not going to think hard about it. I just removed these. They aren't used anymore anyway. > Also, I've noticed a tendancy for Zope to throw up a lot more > exceptions, even in "success" situations. Maybe this is just an extra > knob that's turned on for betas, or maybe it's a difference in python > 1.5 exception handling. Shutdown, for example, works and gives the > familiar message, but then shows: > > Traceback (innermost last): > File /usr/pkg/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 861, in publish_module > File /usr/pkg/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 583, in publish > (Info: /Control_Panel/manage_shutdown) > File /usr/pkg/zope/lib/python/App/ApplicationManager.py, line 216, in manage_shutdown > (Object: Navigation) > SystemExit: 0 > > A similar thing happens if I enter the management password incorrectly. > I get the usual message, but then a traceback as well. These were always "exceptions". When you click on the shutdown button, the application calls sys.exit, which raises a SystemExit. This has always been the case, but you didn't notice because tracebacks were in HTML comments. Similarly, authorization failures are triggered by raising "Unauthorized". Your PCGI info file probably has: BOBO_DEBUG_MODE=1 which turns on a number of debugging features, including the non-hiding of tracebacks. BTW, we need to change this to "ZOPE_DEBUG". :) > Also, I copied over the data from a sandbox Principia that I'd been > playing with here recently, and it worked except for two folder's I > couln't enter (from the management interface, that is). Note that we aren't yet asserting that Principia databases are supported. They will be supported by the second or third beta. OTOH, we are glad when folks do try using them and report problems. > One contained > some Aqueduct stuff, the other was my TinyTable testing folder. Since > those products weren't installed I didn't expect them to work. ;-) > However, I expected to see something like what happend with the SwRI > site's license file problems, when the icons for ExternalMethods changed > to a broken document and the title became "this is a broken object". > However, with Zope the entire folder's manage_main became inacessable: > > Traceback (innermost last): > File /usr/pkg/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 861, in publish_module > File /usr/pkg/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 583, in publish > (Info: /Testing/manage_main) > File /usr/pkg/zope/lib/python/Globals.py, line 222, in __call__ > (Object: manage_main) > File /usr/pkg/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 502, in __call__ > (Object: manage_main) > File /usr/pkg/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py, line 675, in renderwob > (Object: objectItems) > File /usr/pkg/zope/lib/python/OFS/SimpleItem.py, line 144, in title_and_id > (Object: Item) > AttributeError: id The machinery for creating "Broken" objects seems to be failing here. I'll look into it. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@digicool.com Technical Director (540) 371-6909 Python Powered! Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com http://www.python.org Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

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- trying to subscribe
by Joachim Schmitz 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

I send already three times a mail to zope-request(a)zope.org with subscribe in the subject line, but I don't get anything back. I also get no messages from this list. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Joachim Schmitz AC COPY IfD GmbH Email: js(a)ac-copy.net Telefon: +49-2404-908390 WEB: http://www.ac-copy.net FAX: +49-2404-908399

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- Image object enhancements (patch included!)
by Ty Sarna 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

Christopher G. Petrilli wrote: > What I want to be able to do is have a folder that contains images as a > subfolder to my current folder. Now I know I can reference them, no > problem:  but that doesn't give the right SRC= > line in the IMG directive. Now I sat and thought about this, but I'm > just not sure how an image is supposed to find itself in the hierarchy > so it can publish the right URL to find itself. This is related to another problem, which is that if you have: Folder: /site Doc: standard_html_header (contains "") Image: logo Doc: index_html ("") Folder: foo Doc: index_html ("") Folder: bar Doc: index_html ("") If you go look at http://localhost/site, http://localhost/site/foo/, and http://localhost/site/foo/bar/, your browser will need to download http://localhost/site/logo, http://localhost/site/foo/logo, and http://localhost/site/foo/bar/logo. It doesn't know that they're the same object, since they're differently-named. The __str__ method on images really needs to figure out the true absolute path of the object and use that. (like <IMG SRC="/site/logo">) ... Speaking of things that need to be done about Image objects, the fact that they don't send a size can be annoying to users of a site. When the image tag includes a width and height, the browser can lay out the page without waiting to see how large the image is. I had trouble falling asleep last night, so I got up and thought I'd take a look at how hard it'd be to implement. Shortly thereafter, I had the patches below. :^) Image now autodetects the dimensions of uploaded GIF or PNG images (JPEG is harder and I use many more GIFs than JPEGs, so I punted on that. Someone else can add it if they feel ambitious). For pre-existing objects, you can make the object compute (or recompute) the dimensions by going into the Edit tab, clearing the dimension inputs, and submitting. You can also manually set the dimensions to something else if you like, though this is not generally recommended as a way to scale images. If Image is unable to figure out the dimensions (JPEG, or some other unknown format), the width and heigh remain unset and the IMG tag is generated without them. Maybe next time I'm insomniac I'll look at the absolute oath issue :^) --- Image.py.orig Sun Dec 6 23:16:46 1998 +++ Image.py Mon Dec 7 08:20:04 1998 @@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ from Globals import Persistent from Acquisition import Implicit from DateTime import DateTime -import string +import string, struct manage_addFileForm=HTMLFile('imageAdd', globals(),Kind='File',kind='file') def manage_addFile(self,id,file,title='',precondition='',REQUEST=None): @@ -157,6 +157,7 @@ self.title=title if precondition: self.precondition=precondition self.size=len(self.data) + self._post_upload() def id(self): return self.__name__ @@ -187,12 +188,15 @@ """ raise 'Redirect', URL1 - def manage_edit(self,title,content_type,precondition='',REQUEST=None): + def manage_edit(self,title,content_type,precondition='',width='',height='',REQUEST=None): """ Changes the title and content type attributes of the File or Image. """ self.title=title self.content_type=content_type + self.width = width + self.height = height + self._intuit_image_size() if precondition: self.precondition=precondition elif self.precondition: del self.precondition if REQUEST: return MessageDialog( @@ -211,6 +215,7 @@ data=file.read() self.data=Pdata(data) self.size=len(data) + self._post_upload() if REQUEST: return MessageDialog( title ='Success!', message='Your changes have been saved', @@ -226,6 +231,7 @@ 'handle PUT requests' self.data=Pdata(BODY) self.size=len(BODY) + self._post_upload() try: type=REQUEST['CONTENT_TYPE'] if type: self.content_type=type @@ -246,6 +252,10 @@ """ return self.content_type + def _post_upload(self): + # hook can be overridden in subclasses + pass + def size(self): return len(self.data) def __str__(self): return str(self.data) def __len__(self): return 1 @@ -263,7 +273,7 @@ if REQUEST is not None: return self.manage_main(self,REQUEST) class Image(File): - """Principia object for *Images*, can be GIF or JPEG. Has the same + """Principia object for *Images*, can be GIF, PNG, or JPEG. Has the same methods as File objects. Images also have a string representation that renders an HTML 'IMG' tag. """ @@ -282,8 +292,36 @@ kind='image') manage=manage_main=manage_editForm + def _post_upload(self): + self.width = self.height = '' + self._intuit_image_size() + def __str__(self): - return '<IMG SRC="%s" ALT="%s">' % (self.__name__, self.title_or_id()) + w = h = '' + if hasattr(self, 'width') and len(self.width): + w = 'WIDTH="%s" ' % self.width + if hasattr(self, 'height') and len(self.height): + h = 'HEIGHT="%s" ' % self.height + + return '<IMG SRC="%s" %s%sALT="%s">' % (self.__name__, w, h, self.title_or_id()) + + def _intuit_image_size(self): + w = h = '' + + # handle GIFs + if (self.size >= 10) and self.data[:6] in ('GIF87a', 'GIF89a'): + w, h = struct.unpack("<HH", self.data[6:10]) + w = str(int(w)); h = str(int(h)) + + # handle PNGs + if (self.size >= 16) and (self.data[:8] == '\x89PNG\r\n\x1a\n'): + w, h = struct.unpack(">LL", self.data[8:16]) + w = str(int(w)); h = str(int(h)) + + if not hasattr(self, 'width') or not len(self.width): + self.width = w + if not hasattr(self, 'height') or not len(self.height): + self.height = h def cookId(id, title, file): if not id and hasattr(file,'filename'): @@ -306,3 +344,5 @@ def __len__(self): return len(self.data) + def __getslice__(self, i, j): + return self.data[i:j] --- imageEdit.dtml.orig Sun Dec 6 23:08:03 1998 +++ imageEdit.dtml Sun Dec 6 23:17:22 1998 @@ -18,6 +18,20 @@ </TD> </TR> <TR> + <TH ALIGN="LEFT" VALIGN="TOP"><EM>Width</EM></TH> + <TD ALIGN="LEFT" VALIGN="TOP"> + <INPUT TYPE="STRING" NAME="width" SIZE="10" + VALUE=""> + </TD> + </TR> + <TR> + <TH ALIGN="LEFT" VALIGN="TOP"><EM>Height</EM></TH> + <TD ALIGN="LEFT" VALIGN="TOP"> + <INPUT TYPE="STRING" NAME="height" SIZE="10" + VALUE=""> + </TD> + </TR> + <TR> <TH ALIGN="LEFT" VALIGN="TOP">Content Type</TH> <TD ALIGN="LEFT" VALIGN="TOP"> <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="content_type:required" SIZE="40" --- imageView.dtml.orig Sun Dec 6 23:24:31 1998 +++ imageView.dtml Sun Dec 6 23:24:37 1998 @@ -5,7 +5,10 @@ <BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" LINK="#000099" VLINK="#555555">  -<IMG src="" ALT=""> +<IMG src="" +WIDTH="" +HEIGHT="" +ALT=""> </BODY> </HTML>

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Re: [Zope] - cDocumentTemplate & Bobo
by Jim Fulton 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

Amos Latteier wrote: > > At 05:47 PM 12/4/98 -0800, John Eikenberry wrote: > > >To use cDocumentTemplate with Bobo, would it just be a matter of replacing > >the regular DocumentTemplate package (w/o cDT) with the contents of the DT > >directory that comes with Zope? I already have it in place, and it seems > >to work fine... I just wanted to ask to make sure I wouldn't run across > >some unexpected snags. > > I don't believe you should have any problems. In general you can pull your > old favorite packages from Zope and use them like you used to use Bobo > packages. We will probably make this more convenient by releasing some > components like DocumentTemplate separately, so you don't have to download > the whole thing to get just one package. > > I'm not caught up on all the changes in various packages, but I'll hazard > this: > > DocumentTemplate and BoboPOS are essentially similar to the last Bobo > versions of these packages, only the Zope ones contain optional parts in c. This is essentially correct. Note that to use the C extensions, you also need ExtensionClass on which they are based. Also, the Zope BoboPOS has an additional module, TJar that implements long-running transactions, which are the basis of Zope sessions. (Don't look too closely at this. It, like the rest of BoboPOS 2, is pretty crufty. Look for a major cleanup in Z Object Database, formally known as BoboPOS3. :) Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@digicool.com Technical Director (540) 371-6909 Python Powered! Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com http://www.python.org Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

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Re: [Zope] - cDocumentTemplate & Bobo
by Jim Fulton 08 Dec '98

08 Dec '98

John Eikenberry wrote: > > Hey, > > To use cDocumentTemplate with Bobo, would it just be a matter of replacing > the regular DocumentTemplate package (w/o cDT) with the contents of the DT > directory that comes with Zope? Yes, but if you want the optional C speedups, you need to make sure and include the compiled extension (.so file on Linux, .pyd file on Win32) *and* you need to make sure that the ExtensionClass extension is somewhere in the path. The C speedups are provided by a C mix-in class that implements key computations in C. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@digicool.com Technical Director (540) 371-6909 Python Powered! Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com http://www.python.org Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

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