June 1999 - Zope - Zope lists

Re: [Zope] FTP and apache?
by michel＠digicool.com 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Daniel M. Drucker <dmd(a)3e.org> writes: > > Note, Zap and ZServer will want to use the SAME tcp port (9673) to > > listen for HTTP requests. To turn off HTTP for ZServer (so that only > > Apache is listening) specify '-w' on the z2 command line (as I did > > above). Alternatively, you can change the port ZServer listens on by > > saying '-w port'. > > > If I start it up like this: > > python z2.py -w -2 > > I can connect through apache (Zap), but it has ignored the -2 option > and created and used a Data.fs. > > If I start it up like this: > > python z2.py -2 -w > > It doesn't start up -- it gives the usage information, ending with: > Error: > getopt.error: option -w requires argument > > > Daniel Drucker > Thanks, could you submit this to the collector? http://www.zope.org/Collector so we don't forget about it. -Michel > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: EXPERIMENTAL DTML Syntax change
by Service Informatique CHSR 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

> <dtml-var standard_html_header> > <ul> > <dtml-in objectValues> > <li> <a href="&dtml-URL1;/&dtml-id;/manage_workspace"> > <dtml-var title></a> > </dtml-in> > </ul> > <dtml-var standard_html_footer> So, <a href="">Yo!</a> Would be written as: <a href="&dtml-in query;&dtml-var value;&/dtml-in;">Yo!</a> ???? I Just wonder... I sometimes have to write such things... Regards, Jephte CLAIN Service Informatique CHSR

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RE: [Zope] help :( ... entire site disappeared
by Brian Lloyd 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

> In other words, if I want to install 2.0.0a2 and use ZODB3, I have no > alternative but to start from scratch...? > > That sucks. > > I hate to ask this, but isn't this pretty significant? I assume you're > giving priority to this issue, and that we can expect a fix > any day now, > right? :-) > > -- > Alexander Staubo Yes, it is significant, but this is an _alpha_ release - alphas are generally (almost always) not feature complete. If this is a necessity for you, you should probably wait for the beta cycle to begin... Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com

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Re: [Zope] Cool but...
by David J. Orme 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Christopher Petrilli wrote: > > Okay, Zope looks *really*, *really* cool. The one thing I *really* wish > > I could do is to NFS mount or SMB mount the object database onto my file > > system. > > Our approach is to use FTP to get into the Object Database, and this is > supported today, so long as you're using ZServer for your server. Having > said this, while I think that SMB and NFS are interesting ideas, both have > their own SERIOUS problems that are difficult to overcome. If you wish to > undertake this, you should look at what hoops have to be jumped through to > get FTP working... sorta. We'll see. Maybe I'll get hooked and just *have* to add an NFS server option to ZServer... :) Actually the idea to NFS mount an object database wasn't mine. If you're interested, see: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/shore/ > If you're using Windows machines, you should investigate IE5+WebDAV (which > is called Web Folders)... this might be of some help. This is a good idea. I'll take a look at it. > > Even so, I think I'm going to give Zope a whirl on a small project and see > > what happens. I like PHP but wish it had exceptions to help create more > > robust code. I think that Python is a better programming language, and > > the way Zope integrates it into the web environment is very intriguing. > > Let us know how it goes at the end. Will do. I'll probably start by porting a web-based presentation program I originally wrote in PHP to Zope. That should be an interesting comparison of the two systems' features. Best Regards, Dave

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Cool but...
by David J. Orme 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Okay, Zope looks *really*, *really* cool. The one thing I *really* wish I could do is to NFS mount or SMB mount the object database onto my file system. Then I wouldn't have to go through the nonsense of uploading graphic files and Zope would automatically interoperate with all of my HTML editing tools. Even so, I think I'm going to give Zope a whirl on a small project and see what happens. I like PHP but wish it had exceptions to help create more robust code. I think that Python is a better programming language, and the way Zope integrates it into the web environment is very intriguing. Regards, Dave Orme

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Re: [Zope] ZServer dying when parent does?
by michel＠digicool.com 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Pavlos Christoforou <pavlos(a)gaaros.msrc.sunysb.edu> writes: > On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Daniel M. Drucker wrote: > > > > > If I run ZServer like this: > > > > $ python z2.py -2 -w 23456 & > > > > It works -- until I log out of the shell I started it from. Then it > > terminates too. > > This has nothing to do with Zope. Try: > > nohup python z2.py -2 -w 23456 & > > Pavlos > We do however, have to fix z2.py so it behaves a bit more deamonicly, ie detaches itself from the terminal it was started from (unless you specify a -nodetach flag or whatever) and do some better logger managment. z2 started as a hack by me (zinit) and hacked further (albeit more masterly) by Jim into z2. Someone needs to take over this hack. -Michel > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Re: [Zope] help :( ... entire site disappeared
by michel＠digicool.com 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Alexander Staubo <alex(a)mop.no> writes: > In other words, if I want to install 2.0.0a2 and use ZODB3, I have no > alternative but to start from scratch...? > > That sucks. > > I hate to ask this, but isn't this pretty significant? I assume you're > giving priority to this issue, and that we can expect a fix any day now, > right? :-) > We will be providing a conversion script that converts ZODB2 databases to ZODB3 databases with Zope 2.0.0 beta. -Michel

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ZServer dying when parent does?
by Daniel M. Drucker 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

If I run ZServer like this: $ python z2.py -2 -w 23456 & It works -- until I log out of the shell I started it from. Then it terminates too. I'm using GNU bash, version 2.01.1(1)-release. Daniel Drucker

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RE: [Zope] help :( ... entire site disappeared
by Alexander Staubo 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

In other words, if I want to install 2.0.0a2 and use ZODB3, I have no alternative but to start from scratch...? That sucks. I hate to ask this, but isn't this pretty significant? I assume you're giving priority to this issue, and that we can expect a fix any day now, right? :-) -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "`Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.'" --Douglas Adams, _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ >-----Original Message----- >From: michel(a)digicool.com [mailto:michel@digicool.com] >Sent: 16. juni 1999 22:59 >To: Alexander Staubo >Cc: Zope Mailing List (E-mail) >Subject: Re: [Zope] help :( ... entire site disappeared > > >Alexander Staubo <alex(a)mop.no> writes: > >> Does 2.0 currently support importing .bbe files exported by 1.x? >> > >If you run Zope 2.0 in ZODB2 mode '-2 on the command line' then yes. >Otherwise (ZODB3 mode), not yet. > >-Michel > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Re: [Zope] help :( ... entire site disappeared
by michel＠digicool.com 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Alexander Staubo <alex(a)mop.no> writes: > Does 2.0 currently support importing .bbe files exported by 1.x? > If you run Zope 2.0 in ZODB2 mode '-2 on the command line' then yes. Otherwise (ZODB3 mode), not yet. -Michel

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