September 1999 - Zope

NT Zope Newbie Question
by CURTIS David 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

Greeting, I trying to use NT Workstation, Zope 2.0 and ODBC to distribute databases. How do you change your URL: http:\\localhost:8080 to something like http:\147.25.2563:80 or http:\\happydays.com Thanks in advance for the answer

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Serverside Browser detection
by Robin Becker 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

I would like to detect whether the client browser can render png images. I see the following from Netscape 4.61 HTTP_ACCEPT image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, */* HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win95; I) and this from MSIE 5.0 HTTP_ACCEPT image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, */* HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 95; DigExt; btclick.com Build BTCFUNFD1) I know that MSIE 5.0 can render png's (by observation) and by report that Netscape 3.x cannot. Question: Parse HTTP_USER_AGENT to determine netscape/msie or do I rely on the apparently unreliable HTTP_ACCEPT? -- Robin Becker

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No more than two threads?
by Tony McDonald 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

Hi, My start script is; #! /bin/sh reldir=`dirname $0` PYTHONHOME=`cd $reldir; pwd` export PYTHONHOME exec /home/Zope-2.0.0-solaris-2.6-sparc/bin/python \ $PYTHONHOME/z2.py -t 6 -p 'Zope.cgi' \ # -D "$@" "$@" The Zope.cgi part works fine, as does the Zserver part (ie on port 8080). The thing is that if I do % ps -ef | grep py I get, nnle 17768 17767 0 12:57:37 ? 3:36 /home/Zope-2.0.0-solaris-2.6-sparc/bin/python /home/Zope-2.0.0-solari nnle 17767 1 0 12:57:37 ? 0:00 /home/Zope-2.0.0-solaris-2.6-sparc/bin/python /home/Zope-2.0.0-solari nnle 18963 18751 0 15:21:07 pts/10 0:00 grep py That means there's just two threads running, right? Anyone got any ideas? Tone ------ Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project http://nle.ncl.ac.uk/ The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2

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RE: [Zope] Passing variables to a DTML method ...
by Michel Pelletier 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Darran Edmundson [mailto:Darran.Edmundson@anu.edu.au] > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:03 AM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Passing variables to a DTML method ... > > > > Could someone explain how to pass variables to a > DTML method? For example, if I have the following > in a DTML method: > > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('testvar', 'value')"> > <dtml-var "calledmethod(REQUEST)"> Due to some hysterical, I mean historical reasons you cannot simply "call" a DTML Method unless you pass in a few things. A DTML object needs a context in which to render itself. This context can be passed in one of three ways, as a 'client' object, a 'REQUEST' mapping (any mapping) or as keyword arguments to the method. For example: <dtml-var "calledmethod(_.None, _, testvar=value)"> is one way to do what your looking for. _.None is the client (None), _ is the current namespace stack (thus the method will render itself in the current context) and 'testvar=value' is a keyword argument for your variable. -Michel

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setting up a site find utility in Zope
by Mark K. Smith 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

I'm very new to Zope (on my 3rd day) and am trying to set up a web site find utility (similar to the one in the upper right hand corner of the zope.org site). I've searched the site and the mailing list archives but cannot find a place to start. Can someone point me where to start, or better yet, provide me with an example method for a site search? Aside: It would be great to see all of the methods for the zope.org site, are these available? I know you can see the DTML source, but I would like to see what's behind   etc... Thanks, Mark Mark K. Smith SourceGear Corporation www.sourcegear.com 217/356-0105 x234

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Zope not listening to trinkets
by Jason Spisak 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

This is in line with the previous email about the 'list' variable called 'things' that is giving me back ['my_list_item1','my_list_item2'] for sequence-items instead of just the strings. I looked at the form from which these values can and I am using: <input type="hidden" name="things:list" value=""> a hidden value that I got froma previous form (Which was also a list) The sequence-items show up as strings fine on the page with the above code, but when I try to use the hidden filed to move it to the next page, Zope ignores the trinket. Can someone duplicate/ or has noticed this? All my best, -- Jason Spisak webmaster(a)hiretechs.com

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RE: [Zope] Undo is no longer available
by Michel Pelletier 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

Boy I hope you saved the corrupted file so we can take a look at it. -Michel > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony McDonald [mailto:tony.mcdonald@ncl.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 10:28 AM > To: Zope List > Subject: Re: [Zope] Undo is no longer available > > > At 11:31 am +0100 23/9/99, Tony McDonald wrote: > >I don't seem able to undo anything anymore. One of my 'sub-managers' > >was renaming something and said he came across an error. I tried > >clicking the 'Undo' button and got 'System Unavailable' with this > >traceback; > > > > > ><P> > ><hr width="50%"> > > [snip] > > >--> > > > >I've also found that I went over quota on the account that this Zope > >installation is running on...this is bad news, right? > > > > Answering my own mail, it's a slow day in ZopeLand. > > Basically, the Data.fs file was stuffed. I couldn't use Undo or add > any other objects. I had to replace it with the Data.fs file I had > (fortuitously!!) saved from the night before. > > Warning to others: check your quota on accounts that you run Zope > under. It seems there's no way to recover from this situation, other > than to use a backup (if you've got one). > > Tone > ------ > Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project > http://nle.ncl.ac.uk/ > The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 > Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2 > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (To receive general Zope announcements, see: > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > For developer-specific issues, zope-dev(a)zope.org - > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] Possible Insight, DTML Methods and Documents...
by Brian Lloyd 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

> Hi all, > thought I'd share this 'insight' - I could be wrong here > though, so YMMV... > > I saw Loren Staffords' "Breadcrumbs How-to" at the new Zope > community site, http://www.zope.org/Members/lstaffor/Breadcrumbs > > and realised that DTML methods are meant to be used as > 'fragments' of a > document, whilst DTML documents 'pull everything together' > into a coherent > web page. That's a very good way to put it. The (perhaps not very clear) way that we've tried to explain this is that: o a DTML Document is *content*, and its context (its idea of 'self') is itself. o DTML Methods are *methods* that operate on their container. A DTML Method's idea of 'self' is its container. So a DTML Document is logically a "content" object, that may use DTML Methods or other objects to build itself using elements of the environment where it lives. > > If I'm right, I think that the default DTML you get when you > create a DTML > method isn't that apt. I don't think that it should include the > standard_html_header and _footer variables, as it's a bit misleading. That's a good point. The default DTML for DTML Methods is leftover from before DTML objects were split to make the distinction between content and method objects. What do you think would be good default content for a DTML Method? I suppose one answer is that it should just be empty, but I think that it's easier for those new to Zope when they see *some* kind of default rather than being presented with a totally blank slate and no direction at all. In any case, could you post this concern to the Collector to make sure that it doesn't speed off in the current of list traffic? Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com

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RE: [Zope] No more than two threads?
by Michel Pelletier 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

I don't think Solaris 'ps' by default shows you threads, just processes (which can contain multiple contexts of execution -- threads). I suspect there is a 'ps' option to show threads. -Michel > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony McDonald [mailto:tony.mcdonald@ncl.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 10:25 AM > To: Zope List > Subject: [Zope] No more than two threads? > > > Hi, > My start script is; > > #! /bin/sh > reldir=`dirname $0` > PYTHONHOME=`cd $reldir; pwd` > export PYTHONHOME > exec /home/Zope-2.0.0-solaris-2.6-sparc/bin/python \ > $PYTHONHOME/z2.py -t 6 -p 'Zope.cgi' \ > # -D "$@" > "$@" > > The Zope.cgi part works fine, as does the Zserver part (ie on > port 8080). > > The thing is that if I do > % ps -ef | grep py > > I get, > nnle 17768 17767 0 12:57:37 ? 3:36 > /home/Zope-2.0.0-solaris-2.6-sparc/bin/python /home/Zope-2.0.0-solari > nnle 17767 1 0 12:57:37 ? 0:00 > /home/Zope-2.0.0-solaris-2.6-sparc/bin/python /home/Zope-2.0.0-solari > nnle 18963 18751 0 15:21:07 pts/10 0:00 grep py > > That means there's just two threads running, right? > > Anyone got any ideas? > Tone > ------ > Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project > http://nle.ncl.ac.uk/ > The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 > Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2 > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (To receive general Zope announcements, see: > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > For developer-specific issues, zope-dev(a)zope.org - > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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CVSweb access down
by Phillip J. Eby 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

http://www.zope.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ gives a "Not Found" message. Trying the :8080 link it provides results in "sorry, the requested document does not exist". --- Phillip J. Eby VWH IT Solutions

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