April 2000 - Zope - Zope lists

Re: Re: Changing file ownership
by Eric Shuman 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

The weird part here is that the python method had just created the directory in question and the UID on that file is "nobody". So even though the process is the owner of the file it still does not have permission to change the GID. Is there a way to specify what group Zope/Python is running under. What kinds of problems would be associated with changing the group to something other that root? Thanks for you help Daryl, Eric >Eric Shuman wrote: > Using an external python method I am trying to change the group ownership > of a directory on a Red Hat 6 server. The problem is most likely one of permission. If the Zope server is started as the root user, it will change its UID to nobody, and I'd wager that 'nobody' doesn't have permission to - > os.system('chgrp -R extranet /web/htdocs/clients/test') The files and directories in this path would have to be owned by nobody for this to succeed (which would account for why it's working when you execute it from the command line). If you can't do that, then you may need to write a setuid program/script to perform this task as the person who owns the files/directories (something the other P language does with its setuid interpreter). Regards, Daryl Tester ~Eric

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Time Stamping
by Tom Scheidt 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

I'd like to timestamp a document this way: <dtml-with "manage_clone(story_html,REQUEST['new_id'],REQUEST)"> <dtml-call "manage_changeProperties(title=REQUEST['new_headline'], producer=REQUEST['new_producer'], time=REQUEST[' (grab the current time here using ZopeTime?)'], )"> </dtml-with> <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect( DestinationURL() +'manage_main')"> Is there a better way, does this worK? Thanks in advance. ************************* Tom Scheidt www.falsemirror.com tom(a)falsemirror.com *************************

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pcgi (newbie)
by jessica lee tishmack 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

> > "error: failed dependencies: > > Zope-zserver conflicts with Zope-pcgi-2.1.4-1 > > Zope-pcgi conflicts with Zope-zserver-2.1.2-3" > > > > Yes, thats because Jeff Rush is meticulous :-). He has different versions of > startup scripts depending on what packages you download. So theres a check > for this > You will have to erase the zserver rpm before installing the pcgi I did this, and I still get the same error...so, then I deleted the Zope-2.1.2-3.i386.rpm file as well, and still get the same error....hmmm. I hope this means I don't have to delete all Zope items, install pcgi, and then start over. What do most folks do who realize they want to use pcgi, after starting with zserver? Thanks, Jessica

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RE: [Zope] Why so many problems with database adapters?
by Brian Lloyd 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

> [Hung Jung Lu, on Thu, 06 Apr 2000] > :: Is there another way of loosening the tight control of release > :: of products? If Digicool does not have the man-power for taking > :: care of release of some component, why not figure out a way > :: for others to jump in and do the fixes? Why repeat the mistakes > :: and shortcomings of the Java Bug Parade system? Is there a way > :: somehow of linking in the product pages to some sort of user > :: feedback? > > It would probably be somewhat helpful to DC if there was some way for > the user community to participate in prioritizing bugs; or at > least some > way not to decouple the issue and the followups. Even better is for the user community to be able to participate in *fixing* problems (and "scratch their own itches" generally). We are very aware of the problem - resource availability at DC is currently the biggest bottleneck in getting problems resolved, getting features added, etc. And that's just with Zope itself - when you think about the multitude of various database adapters and other components out there, it's obvious that the more popular Zope becomes, the less likely it is that we could possibly keep up with it all, even throwing all of our ever-growing resources at it. The Answer of course is the decision that we have taken - that Zope needs to truly be developed "in the fishbowl", that we need to open the development process and provide the infrastructure required to allow community members to champion their own issues and remove DC as the bottleneck. People with vested interest in a component such as a particular DA should be able to take the lead on that component, have real ownership and control their own destinies. "Ok - that sounds great, but WHEN?" you may be reasonably saying to yourself. We made the decision some time ago that this is the way that we need to go, but the resources to make it happen are just now becoming available. We are even now working on figuring out the best way to "get there from here". The devil is, as always, in the details, and I expect to start soliciting opinions from the Zope community soon to resolve some of those devilish details and get to work on implementing the open development process. Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com

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Why so many problems with database adapters?
by Hung Jung Lu 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

I know this is a moot issue: "... since developing database adapters doesn't contribute to our revenue, we won't spend time on it." But currently the database adapters have problems. I have tried SybaseDAv2 and ZODBC. A few problems have been reported to the Collector with patches. But no actions taken on the part of Digicool, for a long time. This reminds me of Java's Bug Parade... which was rather frustrating... you reported a bug, crossed your fingers, and hopefully in 4 or 5 months it would get fixed... this after your commercial project already got killed. Yes, you fixed the bug, but I am no longer using Java. :) Is there another way of loosening the tight control of release of products? If Digicool does not have the man-power for taking care of release of some component, why not figure out a way for others to jump in and do the fixes? Why repeat the mistakes and shortcomings of the Java Bug Parade system? Is there a way somehow of linking in the product pages to some sort of user feedback? It will be more honest to let new users become aware of the problems of the current products and where they can find the patches. Currently, a new user happily download a product with the false hope that it will work properly. If there is some sort of user-comment (like Amazon's book review), then the user would know what problems there are with the current release of the product, and whether there are patches already made by someone. A publicly visible user feedback would also probably accelerate the fixes of products, be they made by Digicool or any outside people. I guess a message bulletin board linked to each individual product gives much better help than letting new users wade through tons of mailing list messages. (Product owners can remove nasty or unappropriate feedback messages, if necessary.) On one hand Zope advertises that it has database adapters to most databases, on the other hand we know that these adapters have problems that sit unfixed. Database is critical in most commercial applications, and frankly Digicool is risking a bit when mouthwords come out about the quality of the database adapters and the lack of support. regards, Hung Jung ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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RE: [Zope] Newbie <dtml-if> question
by Stuart Foster 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

This worked perfectly I thank all of you for your replies. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Garcia [mailto:ngarcia@codeit.com] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 11:51 AM To: Stuart Foster Cc: 'zope(a)zope.org' Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie <dtml-if> question Stuart Foster wrote: > > I have the following statement: > > <dtml-if "'<dtml-var id>.jpg' in somelist"> > DoSomething > </dtml-if> > > id is some arbitrary numeric value that will change. > > Is the If tag being resolved to: <dtml-if "'1.jpg' in somelist"> > or <dtml-if "<dtml-var id>.jpg in somelist"> The second one. You can't have dtml inside dtml. Instead, what you need to do is this: <dtml-if "id + '.jpg' in somelist"> Actually... if id is numeric then you need to do: <dtml-if "_.str(id) + '.jpg' in somelist"> -- Nick Garcia | ngarcia(a)codeit.com CodeIt Computing | http://codeit.com _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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"Views" in the managerment interface
by Jason Spisak 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

Zopists, What determines whether or not a user can see a "View" in the management interface. Is it permissions in the ZClass mapped to something, or is it the permissions of the actual document itself? Trying hard to work *with* the security machinery instead of against it, -- Jason Spisak 444(a)hiretechs.com

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NT + Zope ==> Sql Server 7.0
by Hugo Ramos 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

Yellow, I have an NT box running Zope 2.1.6 and ZODBC I'm trying to connect to a remote server running SQL Server 7.0 Everything fine until I try a connection and I have this in response: 'Invalid connection string: conn_name' I tested the connection within the ODBC Driver in control panel and it is fine but the ZODBC can't connect to the remote SQL Server. Anyone has this problem solved? HELP??? thanks --- Hugo Ramos - hramos(a)ruido-visual.pt Ruido Visual - Telecomunicacoes Interactivas, Lda

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seeing every name in the current dtml namespace
by Karl Anderson 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

Is there any way to output, or iterate over, every name in the current dtml namespace? I tried using _ as a dictionary, but failed. -- Karl Anderson kra(a)monkey.org http://www.pobox.com/~kra/

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Line Breaks
by Tom Scheidt 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

Is there a way Zope can recognize line breaks? Essentially for this reason: <dtml-if (there's a line break or blank line)> <p> </dtml-if> So when uploading a text document Zope will automatically insert <p> tags when neccessary. Thanks in advance. ************************* Tom Scheidt www.falsemirror.com tom(a)falsemirror.com *************************

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