May 2000 - Zope - Zope lists

Re: [Fwd: Returned mail: Service unavailable]
by Hung Jung Lu 31 May '00

31 May '00

>From: Daryl Tester <dt(a)picknowl.com.au> >... >./configure --prefix=/usr/foo --exec-prefix=/usr/foo >make >make test >make install >... >(or, as Aristotle said, "deprecated, my arse"). Tough! :) Best quote in years. Yes, I did not run "make install" in Python, culpa mia. I still haven't been able to install PyGreSQLDA, but it seems that the new problem is with the new PostGreSQL 7.0. Anyway, thanks to everyone that have helped. I have only one hour daily or so to play with installing PyGreSQLDA. When I finally succeed, I'll let people know what's going on. regards, Hung Jung ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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IRC Chat - tools[win32]
by Jason Cunliffe 31 May '00

31 May '00

<quote> Jim Fulton and Paul Everett are going to be availiabe for a chat at Wednesday, May 31 at 1:00 PM EST on the #zope channel of irc.openprojects.net. </quote> I have not used IRC before, but would love to join the chat session. I just just downloaded a trial version of 'mIRC' software for Win32 from http://www.mirc.co.uk which seems to work ok. For the benefit of any other IRC newbies like me on Win32, hre are some trivial how-to notes <help> 1. Under 'options' menu select category=connect and then click 'Add' 2. Description = anynameyouwant, server = irc.openprojects.net, port=6667[default, works ok], group&password = blank 3.This will return you to 'options' menu select category=connect. Enter your name and email etc..Then select new server named anynameyouwant from the pop-up menu, and click 'Connect to IRC Server' button 4. A window with scrolling list named "mIRC Channels Folder" should appear.For the first time type "#zope" in the field titled "Enter name of channel to join".. #zope will be added to the list. 5. Now select #zope from the scrolling list and click the 'Join' button Voila..! You should now be in the zope chat window - other users will be listed on right hand margin <help> irseeya - Jason ________________________________________________________________ Jason CUNLIFFE = NOMADICS.(Interactive Art and Technology).Design Director

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Zope Chat
by ethan mindlace fremen 31 May '00

31 May '00

Jim and Paul are going to be availiable for a chat about Zope, Perl Methods, and more. Please join us Wednesday, May 31, 1:00PM EST on irc.openprojects.net , on the #zope channel. If you have any technical questions about joining the chat, feel free to email me ( mindlace(a)digicool.com ) and I'll help you out. Ethan Mindlace Fremen Zopista Community Liason

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RE: [Zope] Use of lambda expression in DTML
by Nick Drew 31 May '00

31 May '00

Chris McDonough ponders: |> Your method, in particular, is worse to understand than my |> one-liner, specially for anyone who uses functional programming |> seriously; but even other people would have to reason for a |> few minutes to understand what you're appending to that poor |> list and why. | |I can see that argument... it depends on the reader, I suppose. I |wouldn't complain much actually if the Python code had functional stuff |in it. It's having it in DTML that bugs me, for reasons that |have to do |with separating HTML-like stuff from the stuff that actually runs the |site under the hood. I take your point, but it's making an assumption that map, filter, and lambda are going to be used for business logic. In my case (see original topic) would you argue that what I'm trying to do is business logic or presentation? As for HTML-like stuff vs. business stuff wrt to functional expressions: Do you object to CSS, XSLT, and XPath? I think I can see why the ZoPerl discussion is so vociferous... ;¬] Cheers, Nick Drew HyperSpace Ltd,Birmingham Research Park, Edgbaston, UK, B15 2SQ (e) hyperspace(a)btinternet.com (t) +44 (0)121 414 7019

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What are the best general books on Object Oriented design principles? principles?
by Chris Beaumont 31 May '00

31 May '00

The subject line says it.. What are the best general books on Object Oriented software and database design principles? I'm just starting out, and have no other programming experience to unlearn..(which I have heard is a GoodThing (tm) ) What would you suggest as a good place to start? Obviously one of my goals is that I'd like to be able to start to understand Zope better with this knowledge.... Basically what I want to say is. did any books just seem clearer and less jargon-ridden than the others..? Thanks.. Chris

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Zope documentation
by Graham Chiu 31 May '00

31 May '00

I may be a bit naive, but it seems to me that one should be able to build a tool (object inspector) which when queried will produce all the methods of a queried object, the property sheets, the variables of the property sheets, the applicable methods, and report back the ancestry of the product. The same report could then be run on the ancestors. This could serve as a documentation tool. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiu<at>compkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

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Testing the Waters ( Job Hunting )
by Luis Cortes 31 May '00

31 May '00

Hi, Is there a short term position for me out there - anywhere? I have a masters in C.S., 5 years experience in C/C++ programming (and a little UML ). Recently I have taken the Zope training course, and used python and zope to do some projects at work, but now I am looking to see what else is out there with a bigger scope. If you hear of anything can you drop me a line and let me know. Thanks ahead of time, Luis.

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Oh
by Patrick J.M. Keane 31 May '00

31 May '00

Regarding my reverse sort question. I guess the answer is, just because it isn't documented, doesn't mean it isn't already there. :) I found it. pk

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Q: Using WebDav to edit Zope DTML Methods.
by Graham Heyes 31 May '00

31 May '00

Hello, I have been using Zope to set up a new web site for documentation and maintainance os a large software project. Until now I have been using a combination of LocalFS and ftp to edit content. Neither method is perfect especially since I often work from my laptop at home which is on the wrong side of the firewall and can't get ftp to work. Just the other day I discovered WebDav and life looks much better. I can tunnel my connection to port 8080 through ssh and manage my Zope site from home. One problem remains: When I use "get" or "edit" to get a DTML method (web page in my case) from the site I get a page with all the DTML tags expanded. This is clearly useless to me since I don't want to edit the rendered DTML but the original code. Am I doing something wrong (I hope so) if so what should I do? I am using Zope 1.whatever but also tried Zope2. I am running on RedHat Linux 6.1 with Apache web server but I point the WebDAV tools at http://localhost:8080/ i.e. the ZServer. I have tried the "cadaver" command line tool and "DAVExplorer" java application with the same result. Thanks in advance for any replies, Graham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beware of Geeks bearing GIFS. http://www.jlab.org/coda Jefferson lab DAQ group

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RE: [Zope] TimeSheet product?
by Stuart Foster 30 May '00

30 May '00

I could use one too. If someone doesn't have one maybe we can work one out. -----Original Message----- From: Jean Jordaan [mailto:jean@mosaicsoftware.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:25 AM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] TimeSheet product? Hi Zopers I'm looking for something to track the time I spend on different jobs. Has anyone written anything like this? I tried searching through the products, but found only issue trackers. My main criterion is simplicity of use .. I've never managed to use a timesheet continuously, if it's too much trouble to keep it up to date. -- jean(a)mosaicsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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