February 2004 - Zope

Type uploading via FTP - Plone
by Juan Manuel Ruiz García 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

When I upload a msword document to my plone site via FTP, it sets as 'Plone File'. I want to use ExFile so I can preview this documents into my Plone site, so I need to get the uploaded files to be set automatically as 'ExFile's. Is this possible? TIA

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Successful exUserFolder Plone implementation example! odbc
by Pram 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

i m using zope 2.6.2,ZODBC for mysql of win xp i have created members dir and deleted the default acl_users folder. in members dir i hv created the XUF acl_users and setup for mysql for standard authentication Members - acl_users [ XUF ] now i access the members dir ..i won't able to access with the mysql users username and password.. i hv searched a lot and found some fix on the page http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2003-September/141691.html i hv modified the mysqlAuthSource.py and stared the zope but still the system is not working.. afters doing some modification in file mysqlAuthSource.py some time it gives me maximum recursion error or attibute error for mysqlauth etc.. please help 2 work with mysql,zope,xuf thx __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

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OT: Q about mockup-making software
by Chris McDonough 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

I am frequently required to make mockups in the course of developing a project. I am not comfortable using Dreamweaver or another WYSIWYG tool, mostly because I really don't care about the actual HTML that will eventually be generated, and I don't want to need to learn all of the other stuff that comes along with Dreamweaver to do this. I find that I also tend to get sidetracked in making things "look nice" in Dreamweaver, when in reality it just doesn't matter at the time when I'm doing it. Also, I don't even care that the resulting mockup looks much like what it will eventually look like in HTML. The mockup doesn't even need to be dynamic (it needn't show the actual dropping down of dropdown boxes, or the actual scrolling of multiselect boxes, etc). The only dynamicism required is a capability that would allow me to create a set of images that could be navigated by mouse clicks, each mouse click which would essentially just lead to another "page" which could itself be a static image with hotspots representing clickable areas. I have created mockups in the past by creating multiple GIFs, each representing a page (using things like Open Office Draw and/or Visio, saving each "page" I create to a GIF) and using an imagemap editor to create hotspots on the each GIF that lead to another imagemap. This works very well, but it is tedious because I can't seem to find any tools that allow me to do this across multiple images, retaining imagemap state across edits, and allowing me to treat a collection of images + imagemaps as a "project". Additionally, I would like the tool to be able to show me a graphical thumbnail-ish overview of all "pages", with lines drawn between the pages representing the clicktrail. Assuming anyone can decipher my poorly-phrased description of my problem above, does anyone have a preferred method or tool they use to do something like this? I don't care about platform (if it's a Mac tool, and it works well, I'll buy a Mac ;-) If nothing exists, I'll create my own. - C

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RE: [Zope] OT: Q about mockup-making software
by Jean-Francois.Doyon＠CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

It's just a thought, and I should point out I don't do such work myself (Though I work with people who do, but they use Dreamweaver and more complex mockups), but ... Wouldn't PDF do all this ? It can ingest/display raster images, have hotpots and links, ToC's with thumbnails, etc ... Easily viewed, plenty of good tools and support (Including, since you mentionned it OpenOffice), and so on ... Just an idea ! J.F. -----Original Message----- From: zope-bounces+jean-francois.doyon=ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-bounces+jean-francois.doyon=ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca@zope.org]On Behalf Of Chris McDonough Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:28 PM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] OT: Q about mockup-making software I am frequently required to make mockups in the course of developing a project. I am not comfortable using Dreamweaver or another WYSIWYG tool, mostly because I really don't care about the actual HTML that will eventually be generated, and I don't want to need to learn all of the other stuff that comes along with Dreamweaver to do this. I find that I also tend to get sidetracked in making things "look nice" in Dreamweaver, when in reality it just doesn't matter at the time when I'm doing it. Also, I don't even care that the resulting mockup looks much like what it will eventually look like in HTML. The mockup doesn't even need to be dynamic (it needn't show the actual dropping down of dropdown boxes, or the actual scrolling of multiselect boxes, etc). The only dynamicism required is a capability that would allow me to create a set of images that could be navigated by mouse clicks, each mouse click which would essentially just lead to another "page" which could itself be a static image with hotspots representing clickable areas. I have created mockups in the past by creating multiple GIFs, each representing a page (using things like Open Office Draw and/or Visio, saving each "page" I create to a GIF) and using an imagemap editor to create hotspots on the each GIF that lead to another imagemap. This works very well, but it is tedious because I can't seem to find any tools that allow me to do this across multiple images, retaining imagemap state across edits, and allowing me to treat a collection of images + imagemaps as a "project". Additionally, I would like the tool to be able to show me a graphical thumbnail-ish overview of all "pages", with lines drawn between the pages representing the clicktrail. Assuming anyone can decipher my poorly-phrased description of my problem above, does anyone have a preferred method or tool they use to do something like this? I don't care about platform (if it's a Mac tool, and it works well, I'll buy a Mac ;-) If nothing exists, I'll create my own. - C _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Zope 2x, Plone 1 and 2, and Apache- No Style Sheets Come Through
by Sean Kelley 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

I have tried two different methods to serve plone1/2 and Zope 2.6,2.7 through apache 2 on windows with the same result- the pages come through but not the style sheets. One uses sitetroot in the plone folder and one uses VirtualHostMonster in the root. I used the follow two pages to configure: http://plone.org/documentation/howto/HowToRunPloneWithApache http://www.zope.org/Members/anser/apache_zserver/index_html What is the missing link piece? # added to Apache 2 for zope with siteroot ProxyRequests Off #plone 1.0.3 ProxyPass /ut/ http://localhost:9080/utilities ProxyPass /ut http://localhost:9080/utilities ProxyPassReverse /ut/ http://localhost:9080/utilities ProxyPassReverse /ut http://localhost:9080/utilities ProxyPass /misc_ http://localhost:9080/utilities//misc_ ProxyPass /p_ http://localhost:9080/utilities/p_

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Re: [Zope-dev] help me convert from j2ee to zope
by Ryan Boder 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 04:28:24PM +0100, Clemens Robbenhaar wrote: > I am not certain if this is the right mailing list here, because > zope-dev is for the development _of_ Zope, not the development of > products _with_ Zope. It's not. The thread has moved to zope(a)zope.org. > Usually You should have some persistent object around by the Zope > framework when handling request. If doing an XML-RPC call You are already > talking to some persistent object given to You by the ZPublisher. I am > not sure what is the appropriate equivalent of a session bean in J2EE if > looking at Zope. Not knowing much about Zope, I would assume that a session bean is similar to a non-persistent Zope product, while an entity bean is similar to a persistent Zope product. >From what I have read about Zope, J2EE and Zope offer very similar services to developers. Straight from the Oreilly EJB book, EJB offers: concurrency, transactions, persistence, distributed objects (RPC), naming, and role based security. From what I have read Zope offers these same services to products. At first glance it seems like I should be able to just re-implement my EJBs as Zope products and it would work out quite well. Although the Zope developers have said otherwise so I'm not sure. Also I have noticed other similarities (keep in mind I am a Zope novice, so don't take this as fact): JSP == ZPT Servlets == script (python) objects I can only see 2 BIG differences in Zope and J2EE... 1. Java vs Python (I like Python better) 2. Zope is much nicer and easier to develop in than J2EE. It seems like the Zope designers actually tried to make things easy for developers, where the J2EE designers did not. (Or if they did, failed miserably) My only real reservation is that Zope seems very stuck on making everything a web interface. Personally I don't like web interfaces for most things. I would like to write my programs so that they use the XML-RPC publishing and integrate my client programs with user programs such as eclipse and openoffice.org. For example, one thing I am working on is a requirements management system that stores the data in an application server (hopefully Zope) but the users write their requirements documents in openoffice and openoffice interacts with the app server to store the requirements. I want the main user interface to be openoffice for that, not the web. The web interface would probably just be a read-only view for people who won't download openoffice. Is something like that reasonable in Zope? Because I do think the services mentioned above like transactions and security will be very useful in a product like this. > Another source of inspiration is to install products which seem to do > something similar what You want and try to figure out how they did it. > (I personally prefer Silva for rather obvious reasons ;) That's the route I'm going, but it does take time to figure out how other people's code works, especially when I'm still learning the Zope framework. -- Ryan Boder http://www.bitwiser.org/icanoop

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hacking SSL support
by Thomas Anderson 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

I've recently installed Zope 2.6.3 with Pound 1.6 in front. I tried the replacement z2.py that ships with Pound, with no luck. All the docs I've read suggest that getting a SSL wrapper in front of Zope is a solved problem, yet I keep running into problems like the below in the html source generated by the default index_html: img src="http://localhost:443/p_/ZopeButton" width="115" This of course needs to be https://localhost:443/... for it to work. There are 3 ways I can see to fix this.. For my purposes replacing "http" with "https" for all self-referencing URLs generated by Zope would be fine. This is to be a secure server so turning off http completely is fine for me. It would be better (and a much prettier hack) if I leveraged the X-Forwarded-For header, that way http://zopehost:8080 would still work. If Zope could be set up to detect if X-Forwared-For was set to my Pound front-end's IP and generate all https:// URLs in the replies..... that would be awesome. I wonder though if perhaps Zope should just be smarter about seeing a port number of 443 and automatically generate https URLs in response. Would that break anything existing? If anyone has already done work in this area, or has an idea where in the Zope code would be a good place to start hacking, please let me know! I'd like to make the smallest patch to Zope possible so that it can be maintained easily in future versions and possibly even merged into 2.6.x or 2.7.x. Tom

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RE: [Zope] DTML -> ZPT question.
by Jean-Francois.Doyon＠CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Well, you'd have to tie it to the structure of your document, but using a table it would look something like this: <table tal:condition="not: isLibraryTopicIndex"> ... </table> Doesn't reall ymatter what isLibraryTopicIndex *IS* so long as it evaluates to true or false somehow. J.F. -----Original Message----- From: zope-bounces(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-bounces@zope.org]On Behalf Of Jason C. Leach Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:59 PM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] DTML -> ZPT question. I have this line in DTML (that I did not write): <dtml-unless name="isLibraryTopicIndex"> And I would like to convert it to ZPT but am not sure how. The isLibraryTopicIndex is, I think, a boolean attribute of an object. j. _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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DTML -> ZPT question.
by Jason C. Leach 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

I have this line in DTML (that I did not write): <dtml-unless name="isLibraryTopicIndex"> And I would like to convert it to ZPT but am not sure how. The isLibraryTopicIndex is, I think, a boolean attribute of an object. j.

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regarding catalogs on website, ZODB or standard relational DB?
by Alec Munro 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Hi List, I've struggled with this one for quite a while, at least partly due to my previous experience being with *SQL dbs. I'm building an e-commerce site on Zope, and I've gotten to the point where I could see some huge advantages from a management perspective to doing catalog products as a zope objects, rather than table rows in MySQL. But, probably due to lack of experience, there are things that don't quite click for me yet. One of the main things is being able to easily and arbitrarily manipulate large numbers of products. Performance is another thing I wonder about. Basically, I would love to get advice from someone who has built an e-commerce site entirely on Zope, and any particular caveats they encountered. I'm very frustrated at this point because from a perspective of sense, products work great as objects, but not so well as rows in table. Thanks for any help you can lend, Alec Munro

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