November 2006 - Zope

Re: Mail Boxer On Qmail, Anyone?
by Nancy Donnelly 14 Nov '06

14 Nov '06

From: Chris Withers <chris@...109> Subject: Re: Mail Boxer on Qmail110 Newsgroups: gmane.comp.web.zope.general111 Date: 2006-11-13 15:33:47 GMT (5 hours and 18 minutes ago) > My recommendation would be to use a real mailing list manager like > mailman instead... Really? That bad? I mean, if you're sure, I'll follow your advice. Mailman is certainly easier to install and well documented. But...and it's a big but (no pun intended)...the beauty of Mail Boxer is that it all gets included in the Data.fs, so it can be searched. I await your comment. Thanks, Nancy

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Job Opening
by David Johnson 13 Nov '06

13 Nov '06

I'm apologize in advance if this is not the best place to post, but finding Zope engineers is difficult. We're a small profitable non venture backed fast growing company that provides technology for Colleges and Universities. We are looking for a full time zope engineer to help us support our customers and make their lives better. The job will include responding to customer calls and finding ways to use Zope to improve the customer support and customer relationship experience. The company is JSA Technologies, and our primary products are web based financial transaction management products. We use a variety of technologies and avoid Java. We are focusing on growth in the Zope and Zope 3 areas. The company is the market leader in the technologies it provides. Warm regards -- David Johnson djohnson(a)jsatech.com 201 Main Street Suite 1320 Fort Worth, TX 76102 (877) 572-8324 x2200

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Mail Boxer on Qmail, Anyone?
by Nancy Donnelly 13 Nov '06

13 Nov '06

Hi; I sent this over the weekend but I think it got overlooked. I'm running into trouble getting Mail Boxer to play nicely with qMail. I've installed and tested Maildrop Host. It works ok, so that potential bug is eliminated. I was confused as to where to put smtp2zope.py, so I put it here: /usr/bin/smtp2zope.py and symlinked it here: /usr/local/sbin/smtp2zope.py /var/qmail/bin/smtp2zope.py just to be safe ;) One of the how-to's I read said I should create the following file: /var/qmail/aliases/.qmail-foo where "foo" is the name of my list, and enter the following line by itself: foo: "|smtp2zope.py http://127.0.0.1:8080/foo/mailinglist/manage_mailboxer 20000" where the second "foo/mailinglist" is my path to the Mail Boxer instance. and finally I send a message to foo(a)smtp.example.com but I didn't get anything back. Did I get subscribed? How do I know? I don't see any entry in the "maillist" in the properties tab. Also, one of the how-to's said I should set up a forwarding email address. That's not necessary, is it? TIA, Nancy

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Re: [Zope] Can't Track Simple Bug
by Nancy Donnelly 13 Nov '06

13 Nov '06

----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Withers <chris(a)simplistix.co.uk> To: Nancy Donnelly <nancydonnelly2006(a)yahoo.com> > From what Tres has said, you should build yourself a new Zope instance > with mkzopeinstance.py and then install any products you need int othe > new instance, then finalyl move the Data.fs into it. > > You config and control files are old beyond help... Sounds like, but I'll work on it later. It works for the moment ;) Thanks, Nancy

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Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative
by michael nt milne 13 Nov '06

13 Nov '06

Great. Thanks. On 11/13/06, Andreas Jung <lists(a)zopyx.com> wrote: > > > > --On 13. November 2006 17:16:14 +0000 michael nt milne > <michael.milne(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > "You posted again without significant content. > > > > And please: don't start a new thread for every reply. Learn to use > > your mail application properly." > > > > So did you. I thought you had filtered me out anyway? Please put the > rule > > back in place...:-) > > > > I'm using Gmail and simply replying to the topic and the Zope list. If a > > separate thread is being started it's nothing to do with me. > > > Sometimes we need some entertainment. You're back on the blacklist :-) > > -aj > > -- michael

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View classes based on Page Templates in Zope2
by Peter Bengtsson 13 Nov '06

13 Nov '06

Something I like about Zope3 is the View classes. What I like about it especially is that it's a brilliant place for putting in little extra silly python methods that are specific to your template rather than the object class. Eg. class ViewProduct(BrowserPage): __call__=ViewPageTemplateFile('productview.pt') def showPrice(self, product): return "£%.2f" % product.getPrice() What options do we have for this in Zope2? If Five is the answer, what options do we have without Five? Has anybody written a convenient class like this? Perhaps based in PageTemplateFile or something? -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com

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Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative
by michael nt milne 13 Nov '06

13 Nov '06

"You posted again without significant content. And please: don't start a new thread for every reply. Learn to use your mail application properly." So did you. I thought you had filtered me out anyway? Please put the rule back in place...:-) I'm using Gmail and simply replying to the topic and the Zope list. If a separate thread is being started it's nothing to do with me. On 11/13/06, Andreas Jung <lists(a)zopyx.com> wrote: > > > > --On 13. November 2006 16:43:01 +0000 michael nt milne > <michael.milne(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > "You should post only if you have something to say. You did not and you > > can't comment on the content of the wiki." > > > > You posted again without significant content. > > And please: don't start a new thread for every reply. Learn to use > your mail application properly. > > -aj > > -- michael

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Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative
by michael nt milne 13 Nov '06

13 Nov '06

"You should post only if you have something to say. You did not and you can't comment on the content of the wiki." Of course I had something to say. What nonsense. And sure I had a look at the Wiki as well and am entitled to comment. Just because I don't have the high level of authority that many people on this list have with regard to Zope it doesn't mean I can't comment. By the way there's lots of people who are bored of the attitude of certain developers towards answering queries on lists. And if those developers then decide not to post then maybe it is a good thing for the list and the developer? On 11/13/06, Andreas Jung <lists(a)zopyx.com> wrote: > > > > > >> +-------[ michael nt milne ]---------------------- > > >Quite right. It's an ignorant attitude and one that itself deserves the > >label that it is prescribing. It's been prevalent for a long time on this > >list. The whole attitude here is one of sneering and schoolboy name > >calling. > > You should post only if you have something to say. You did not and you > can't comment on the content of the wiki. > > > >Is there a reason that the Plone list gets 3 times the level of postings > >that the Zope list gets? > > Because people use Plone and not Zope. Many Plone users identify Plone > with > Zope and don't recognize that Plone is a tiny CMS layer on top of Zope and > several other big software components. > > >Yes. because it is a more mature and constructive > >support environment which actually helps promote the product. > > Speak with some Plone core developers. Some of them are also bored by > ongoing laziness of a minority of ppl to use existing resources or to > resolve very easy issues on their own. That's why a bunch of Zope and > Plone > developers are no longer available for giving help on -users lists. > > -aj > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > -- michael

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Mail Boxer on Qmail
by Nancy Donnelly 13 Nov '06

13 Nov '06

Hi; I'm running into trouble getting Mail Boxer to play nicely with qMail. I've installed and tested Maildrop Host. It works ok, so that potential bug is eliminated. I was confused as to where to put smtp2zope.py, so I put it here: /usr/bin/smtp2zope.py and symlinked it here: /usr/local/sbin/smtp2zope.py /var/qmail/bin/smtp2zope.py just to be safe ;) One of the how-to's I read said I should create the following file: /var/qmail/aliases/.qmail-foo where "foo" is the name of my list, and enter the following line by itself: foo: "|smtp2zope.py http://127.0.0.1:8080/foo/mailinglist/manage_mailboxer 20000" where the second "foo/mailinglist" is my path to the Mail Boxer instance. and finally I send a message to foo(a)smtp.example.com but I didn't get anything back. Did I get subscribed? How do I know? I don't see any entry in the "maillist" in the properties tab. Also, one of the how-to's said I should set up a forwarding email address. That's not necessary, is it? TIA, Nancy

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[Plone-Users] Killing the Postmaster
by Nancy Donnelly 13 Nov '06

13 Nov '06

----- Original Message ---- From: Alexander Limi <limi(a)plone.org> > Plone 2.1.4 works fine on Zope 2.7.8. Will I run into all sorts of upgrade issues?? TIA, Nancy

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