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Catalog aware
by Garito 24 Jul '06

24 Jul '06

Hi all! Is possible to create an object (for example a Page Template) and make it catalog aware? I wonder why the objects aren't catalogable by default (I need all my object catalogables) Any Idea? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito

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Acquisition and self arguements of methods
by Mohsen Moeeni 22 Jul '06

22 Jul '06

Hello; As far as I see, the `self` argument, when a method is called, is not dependent on how the method was acquired. Consider I have an instance of class B which is named b and has a method named `method_b`. In either of these calls: a.b.c.method_b() a.b.method_b() `self` argument will be `a.b` if I am not wrong. Is there any way to get the acquisition context where a method is called inside that method? In the other words, how to get `a.b.c` within `method_b` when I call `a.b.c.method_b` and `a.b` when I call `a.b.method_b`? Regards, M. Moeini

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Re: [Zope] How to prevent subobjects to catalog a parents attribute
by Mohsen Moeeni 22 Jul '06

22 Jul '06

On 7/22/06, Andreas Jung <lists(a)zopyx.com> wrote: > > > --On 22. Juli 2006 17:08:43 +0330 Mohsen Moeeni <listless(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi; > > [snip] > > ..... However, the problem is that the subobjects of this > > folder will also have the same value as their parent for the category > > index and metadata because of the acquisition. Can I prevent this? > > Look at ManageableIndexes...they provide control over acquistion while > indexing. Thanks. I wish I could do it without installing a new product. Actually I could get the same effect but with a little bit of hackiness. I added a `category` index which indexed `_getCategoryForCatalog` method which can not be acquired by subobjects because it start with `_`. At any rate, either of these approaches solve half of the problem. The other half is to do the same thing for a metadata. I doubt it's easy to do that because unlike an index, metadata is not plugable. Mohsen,

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How to prevent subobjects to catalog a parents attribute
by Mohsen Moeeni 22 Jul '06

22 Jul '06

Hi; My folder (which extends ATFolder from ATContentTypes) has a `catagory` attribute (field) which I want to be present in the catalog both as index and metadata. So I have added the `category` FiledIndex and metadata to my catalog object. Everything is fine when I look at my indexed custom folder in the catalog. However, the problem is that the subobjects of this folder will also have the same value as their parent for the category index and metadata because of the acquisition. Can I prevent this? On workaround is to prevent `category' from being acquired by subobjects by using some mechanism (like changing the name to _category which I do not like). Is it *the* way to go? I'd like to know people's idea about this problem. Cheers, Mohsen,

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restarted zope and now not answering port 8080
by Noah 22 Jul '06

22 Jul '06

Hi there, zope-2.8.8 freebsd-4.11 so I just installed plone and stopped and restarted zope and found that it no longer answers port 8080. there is nothing in the logs that shows something is wrong. I see the zope daemon running it is not quitting. I see a python2.3 process run by nobody that tacks up to 99% CPU about every 10 seconds. any clues how I can go about troubleshooting this? Cheer,s Noah

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cant log in using userinit user and logging issue
by Noah 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

zope-2.8.8 freebsd-4.11 I am setting up zope for the first time and I still cannot log into to zope. I set the username password in the inituser file and placed it in the /usr/local/www/Zope dir I even regenerated the file and still I am not able to get in. is there any logging I can turn on to really show what is going on here. I see that the Z2.log file is scrolling but there is nothing to say there is an erorr and why the authentication is failing? clues please? here is my current zope.conf logging: --- snip --- <eventlog> level info <logfile> path $INSTANCE/log/event.log level info </logfile> </eventlog> <logger access> level WARN <logfile> path $INSTANCE/log/Z2.log format %(message)s </logfile> </logger> <logger trace> level WARN <logfile> path $INSTANCE/log/trace.log format %(message)s </logfile> </logger> ---s nip --- cheers, Noah

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Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
by Martijn Pieters 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

Please don't email me personally; let's keep this discussion on the list. Garito wrote: > Yes, the indexes depends on the entity (I don't know what indexes I use > until I define the entity but I need to catalog every characteristic of > the entity) > > For example if I have a entity with a container where to put my cousins > information I will catalog a keyword index called (is an example, > remeber) HowMuch that counts the number of the objects stored in the > container > > Or if I talk about skills I will catalogue the marks or the way to print > the certificate of excelence (again an example) But then you can create specific subclasses that are catalog aware. What standard objects would you use to implement this? You have a specific, non-generic use-case that has already been catered for by the framework. >> Making all Zope objects catalog aware by default makes no sense >> though. You have yet to come with a compelling generic use-case, let >> alone with one that convinces me. Why catalog database connectors for >> example? What kind of search are you performing? > > Please, don't think in a particular case, think a way to do that if you > need No, we need a use-case. Otherwise you have what we call a YAGNI, a "You aint gonna need it" feature that noone will maintain because noone uses it. A vague notion that you'd like to see this for your application is not a use-case. >> Have you thought about the potential problems of making all objects >> catalog-aware by default, like potential conflicts and side-effects? > > What kind of side-effects or conflicts (put an example to understand, > please) Catalog indexes retrieve their infomation from the object, through a named attribute. If that attribute is callable, the index calls it, so it executes the code. That may have side effects not originally forseen because the original code never anticipated being indexed. This can happen when the attribute name can mean different things in different contexts. Zope is a complex beast, and the idea of making everything catalog aware is not going to play well. >> I say a big -infinity from me on the whole idea. > > I can't understand the last sentence (my english is a kid english, sorry > again!) It means I say no to the idea. A big no. Martijn Pieters

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Re: [Zope] default webpage after External Method script executed
by Alan 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

Thanks a lot for your reply. Both ways worked for me with a little modification, I had to remove 'context'. return self.Status.index_html(**options) return self.REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect('index_html?submit=ok') Cheers! Alan On 20/07/06, Andreas Jung <lists(a)zopyx.com> wrote: > > > --On 20. Juli 2006 20:48:16 +0200 Tino Wildenhain <tino(a)wildenhain.de> > wrote: > >> > >> return > >> self.context.REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect(some_url_plus_query_string) > > > > valid but very ugly. Why not just return the result of the call of a > > template? > > You might be interested have the original page under the original URL. > So a redirection is fine. > > > > > e.g. return self.zpt_or_whatever_template() > > > > Or do all the form work in a python script anyway, which calls > > the external method when everything looks ok and returns > > with the template as above. > > > THis also work...depends on your usecase and requirements > > -aj > > > -- Alan Wilter S. da Silva, D.Sc. - Research Associate Department of Biochemistry, University of Cambridge. 80 Tennis Court Road, Cambridge CB2 1GA, UK. >>http://www.bio.cam.ac.uk/~awd28<<

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problems with non ascii char from an xml export
by robert rottermann 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

hi there, I try to read data from an xml export back into zope. however I have problems with non ascii chars. in the xml pickle I have a string like so: "dann \xfcberhaupt den zu \xfcbernehmenden" this sems to be an latin1 encoded string. whatever I try I do not get it converted such, that it is represented correctly in zope. what I would like to do is to store it in an CMF objext as description, and then retrieve it as object.description() in a template. thanks a lot for any pointer. robert

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default webpage after External Method script executed
by Alan 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Hi! My simple webpage for submitting files is ok. It calls a External Method script to do all the dirty job. However, I am running out of ideas of how to get back to my default submitting web page after submitting a file (and thus execute the script). Any idea would be very welcome. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Alan -- Alan Wilter S. da Silva, D.Sc. - Research Associate Department of Biochemistry, University of Cambridge. 80 Tennis Court Road, Cambridge CB2 1GA, UK. >>http://www.bio.cam.ac.uk/~awd28<<

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