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by Matthew Burleigh 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

test -- - Matthew Burleigh - Systems Administrator, Digital Creations - publishers of Zope. - (888)344-4332 -- http://www.digicool.com - http://www.zope.org

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[Zope-dev] regex (or re) modules
by Tim McLaughlin 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Does anybody know why these modules aren't available for DTML and Python Methods? (I already hacked my server, just wanna know what I'm riskin) Thanks, Tim _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )

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test
by Matthew Burleigh 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

test -- - Matthew Burleigh - Systems Administrator, Digital Creations - publishers of Zope. - (888)344-4332 -- http://www.digicool.com - http://www.zope.org

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PR Progress as of today
by Bill Fisher 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Garth, I have done a lot of investigating and talked to a fair number of people. As of today, I would say that our plan for getting our word out should be to distribute our press release to one submission service. The best one I have found is Business Wire. I have included the publications they work with for releases. A few of these are major news sources that people like Yahoo use for getting news like Reuters. According to Yahoo, this is the only way our news will show up on their site (they mentioned BusinessWire.com and PRNewswire.com) I have included a Word document that lists the various places our news will be distributed if we pick this company and this demographic (which I think is our space). I'm keeping this list as a reference and then creating my own list of sites or magazines that these guys do not cover. The cost for this organization is $100 membership fee. Each press release is $525 for up to 400 words. Each additional 100 words is $135.00. At the very least, I think you should figure this kind of stuff in your budgets for the business. There is no cheaper way to get our name out there. We probably would not do more than one press release per month. I'd be surprised if we did that many. Randy Thompson suggested it might be a good idea to contact media people directly, but based on the sheer numbers of publications we need to hit, I believe that could be a full time job and then some. I think using this service makes sense for us given the limited cycles we have between us. Any comments appreciated. We won't need to do this until we release V2. But, I want be ready. Thanks Bill Bill Fisher Spoke Technologies, Inc. www.Spoke.net

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To retrieve properties from a dtml document
by Ausum 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

After some newbie researching I found that whenever I want to retrieve a propertie from a dtml document I must use this: <dtml-var "thedocument.thepropertie"> If thedocument is index_html or whatever_html it works fine, but how could I retrieve a propertie from a document named whatever.html? We need to use the .html extension for every document because we want to mirror the site using WGET, leaving the automation just on the production stages, in order to upload static pages to our remote server. Any comment? Ausum

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Re: [Zope-dev] Loginmanager and local roles
by Steve Spicklemire 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Hi Morten, >>>>> "Morten" == Morten W Petersen <morten(a)esol.no> writes: Morten> (Can't understand why I had to use an additional list Morten> though). You probably found that Zope doesn't allow you to access the elements of a BTree object (which is what you get from "persistentItemIDs()" from dtml. You need to copy them to a 'plain' list first (a 'plain' list is in the set of object types that Zope allows you to use in DTML without further security checking.. ). -steve _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )

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Import/Export error
by Otto Pichlhoefer 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Hello, This is a question concerning the Import/Export of *.zexp files. I am new to Zope and experimented during the last month. The installation went smoothly and all the features worked smoothly. However at some point the Import stoped working. I thought there might be a conflict with one of the many products that I had installed. So I installed a completely new and clean Zope. However the problem persists. When trying to import a *.zexp file from the \Import\ directory: Zope Error Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. Error Type: Bad Request Error Value: File does not exist: G:\PROG_I~1\ZopeSite\import\  This is my Zope: Zope version: Zope 2.2.4 (binary release, python 1.5.2, win32-x86) Python version: 1.5.2 (#0, Jul 30 1999, 09:52:18) [MSC 32 bit (Intel)] System Platform: win32 (WinNT SP5) I would appreciate any help since I have no clue as to what the problem might be. Thanks, Otto - Otto Pichlhoefer mailto:orp@aon.at

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Re: [ZWeb] Feedback
by Martijn Pieters 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Hi Martin, I moved this thread over to the Zope mailinglist; the Zope-Web mailinglist is intended for discussion related to the Zope.org website itself. You'll get more feedback on the Zope mailinglist. On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:41:34PM +0100, Edwin Martin wrote: > The last couple of months I developed a dynamic website in Zope. > > You can take a look: http://www.joods.nl/, but be warned: it's Dutch. Cool, I always like to see more Dutch websites. I never really convinced my colleagues at my previous employer about the advantages of Zope; they were/are entrenched in the Java point of view of the world. I did manage to convince my COO though, who is now starting his own Zope-driven business. You may want to tap into the Dutch Zope community as well; see http://zll.zopatista.com:9673/ > I used Zope 2.1.6 with python 1.5.2 on Debian Linux 2.2r2. > > While developing in Zope should be fast, unfortunately, it was not. > > Some minor things, which would be no problem in any other > language, took me hours to do in Zope. > > Here is a list. I'm sure some things are already solved in the newest > version of Zope. I'm posting this list not to offend, but to help you > improve the system. Feedback is always welcome, please keep it up. Indeed, many issues are already solved in the current release of Zope. Note that Debian Woody has the most recent version, 2.2.4, packaged as a .deb distribution. You don't need to upgrade to Debian Woody to be able to run this; you can download the distribution and use dpkg --install manually: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/zope.html > 1) When I make an error in an DTML-page, all my changes are > lost! This is really frustrating. And unnecessary. This is more a browser cache issue, where the browser (esp. Netscape, IIRC), would re-retrieve the edit form when pressing the Back button. Try tuning your browser cache parameters. > 2) Variables with a minus-sign in it! Who came up with that? > Now I have to write <dtml-var expr="_['sequence-length'] > 10">. Yep, they are lame. They are a remnant of the times before expressions in DTML where added, something that many regard as a mistake. You can use <dtml-var> to create an alias of such variables. Another option is using external methods to deal with the coding of these areas; usually you are dealing with logic, not presentation, and that is better suited for Python code. DTML should only be used for presentation. In Zope 2.3 you'll be able to use Python Script objects for this as well, giving you TTW python code. > 3) sequence-start is only valid at the beginning of <dtml-in>. > This really limit it's use, for example to print a 'previous'-button > on the bottom of the page. You can use a seperate <dtml-in> construct for that, using the 'previous' or 'next' attributes. > 4) Zope has an Image object, but you can't ask for the width and > height (which should be trivial). You can actually. In DTML: <dtml-with image>This image is &dtml-width; wide</dtml-with> > 5) You can use <dtml-var myImage> to show an image. But it's > not possible to set border=0, which is also trivial. Use: <dtml-var "image.tag(border=0)"> The tag method generates an <img> tag for you, with the extra attributes inserted. You can also use this to remove or replace the autogenerated alt, width and height attributes, or scale the width and height values. > 6) I invested some time to learn ZClasses. Only to find out the > query-features are very poor, which made it useless to me. > Now I only use 'real' databases. Query features? Could you elaborate? > 7) The <dtml-let> tag is nested. So how can I remember a value > I discovered in an <dtml-in> loop? I am not sure what you mean here. Within a <dtml-let> tag the surrounding namespace is still available, including the <dtml-in> loop values. > 8) I made a big HTML-form to post and edit articles. > To make a form to edit an article, I used: > <dtml-in getArticle> > <form..>Big form here</form> > </dtml-in> > But how can I use the *same* big form for a new article? > I think putting the form in another file (as I did) is not the right solution. Why not? Putting the form into a seperate DTML Document or Method would make the form a reusable object, which to me looks like the right thing to do in this case. > 9) I consider this a bug: <dtml-var expr="objectValues()[0]"> > gives the value HTML-quoted. Very strange. I can't reproduce this. What object is returned by objectValues()[0]? (objectValues returns an array of object instances, of which you select the first, which is then 'represented' in the output stream). > 10) It's pretty hard to use a checkbox in a form. Browsers don't > submit unchecked checkboxes, which result in Key-errors. > Writing wrappers for every checkbox is an ugly way to solve this. Use a hidden value with ':default' appended to the name. This makes the variable alwas available, browsers always send hidden fields, even if the value is empty: <input type="hidden" name="a_checkbox:default" value=""> <input type="checkbox" name="a_checkbox" value="1" checked> Even if the user now unchecks the 'a_checkbox' box, your object will be handed a 'a_checkbox' paramater, which will be an empty string. > 11) Some dates in my (MySQL) database are "0000-00-00 00:00:00". > I couldn't find a way to handle this in Zope. All I got was errors. > Even putting the code between <dtml-try> tags didn't solve it. You may want to contact the author of the MySQL db adapter you are using and file a bug (with testcase). > 12) Zope's homepage says: "Zope enables teams to collaborate...". > But Zope doesn't provide tools to prevent users editing the same > document at the same time. Check-in and -out mechanisms are > really important in "collaborating teams". You can use Version objects; they have a downside in that they lock objects that have been altered. Not CVS yet, but gives you minimal checkin-checkout support. > 13) Zope inserts a <base href=".."> tag in every page. Because I > put Zope behind a Apache proxy, this is really horrible. I still couldn't > find a way to turn this off. You can use the SIteAccess product for this; it'll rewrite Zope's internal notion of what the base URL should be. www.zope.org runs behind Apache with this. Many others on the Zope list can help you configure it. > 14) I saw the documentation has improved last week. Unfortunately > it was too late for me. It was (excuse me) really bad. I hope someone > with teaching-skills will rewrite the text. What documentation are you referring to? The Zope.org documentation page at www.zope.org/Documentation now also lists status; you can see at a glance what documentation is new and what isn't. You can also send detailed comments to docs(a)digicool.com. > 15) I and someone else tried to install the MySQL database adapter > under Red Hat Linux. Using detailed instructions and common > sense didn't help. Fortunately, installing under Debian was much > easier. I thinks many others will not change their Linux distribution > or database system and just forget about Zope. If you contact the maintainer of the Product, maybe the procedure could be improved? > I hope some day we will have a open source content management > system that can compete with the commercial ones. If you've ever seen Vignette's and Broadvision's solutions from close by, you'll agree that that isn't too hard. :) I'll let others comment on the competitive strengths and weaknesses of Zope though, I may be biased. ;) -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:mj@digicool.com | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ ---------------------------------------------

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parameters
by Nuno Goncalves 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Hi everybody ! I'm trying to pass some parameters to a dtml method. It's something like <dtml-var expr="template(menu, menu2)"> written in a dtml document XPTO. template is a dtml method ! Question is : Is it possible to catch in a dtml method the parameters passed by <dtml-var expr="template(menu, menu2)"> ??? How can i catch menu and menu2 in the dtml method template ?? thanks in advance best regards, Nuno

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Newbie question - Link between Methods based on Authorization
by Michal Krejza 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

I am still newbie in Zope, so my question may be stupid - sorry. I have problem with access to method. Example - There are two methods: A and B. Method A contains common information, accessible for all user (include anonymous). Source code in method B updates data for method A and access for method B is restrict only for users with roles "AdminTables". There is a link from method A to method B in the code of script A, and this link is viewable for all user (also for anonym). After click on this link, user is asked for authentication. So there is no problem, but HOW MAKE THIS LINK VIEWABLE ONLY FOR USER WITH AUTORIZATION FOR OBJEKT B ??? Thx for your tips, Michal

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