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apache and zserver interaction
by Bak＠kedai 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

hi all during peak period/or simulated with ab -n200 -c 100 http://mysite/ i did this: -----8<------- telnet mysite 80 Trying mysite... Connected to mysite. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.1 host:mysite ... response -----8<-------- what puzzled me is that the response time between typing in host:mysite \n\n and getting the response from the server is *very* high. what may cause the latency? is it between apache and zope, or zope itself? or does it depend on what the rest of mysite is doing? i'm at a lost here. i want to speed up response time, but not sure which knobs to turn. apache's or ZServer's. i've increased the keepalive to 30s in apache. will increasing the zserver thread number help? i also changed zserver -i option to 60, but not that much different result. thanks -- http://www.kedai.com.my/kk http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine as you woke this morning, and open up your eyes, did you notice the tear stains lining your face were mine..

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ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.3.0 alpha 1 Documentation Release
by Michel Pelletier 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

On the heels of Brian's announcement, we are gurgling with joy to announce a sychronized release of the Zope Book for the Zope 2.3 alpha release. http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/ZB/ This release marks the first time the book and Zope are "in sync" enough for you to be able to fully try out all the examples and understand all the concepts. This also marks the first time in long time that Zope has a (fairly) complete, up-to-date manual! Truely exciting times are these. Remember though, both the software *and* the manual are alpha, they both will have bugs. Please report any bugs, suggestions, or comments in the book to docs(a)digicool.com. Happy reading! -Michel

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ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.3.0 alpha 1 released...
by Spicklemire, Jerry 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

Outstanding! Sometimes I wonder if ther rest of the Open Source world has a glimmer of how FAST Zope is developing. let alone commercial vendors. Can't wait to dig in! Congratulations to all, Jerry S.

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Signed Zope Book Winners
by Michel Pelletier 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

Last week we announced a content to win free, signed copies of the book for finding errors in the book releated to calling a Script a Method. We have winners! Thanks folks, there are real bugs my eyes missed, and we've fixed them all. As soon as the book hits our local shelves, we'll get your signed copies in the mail. Here are the official winners! o "jimbo" o M. Adam Kendall o Jason Cunliffe o Lalo Martins o Jochen Knuth o Holger Hoffmann o "Bak@kedai" o Magnus Heino We'll be contacting the winners by email. If I sent you an email saying you *did* win and you're not in this list, fwd: it back to me and we'll get you a book, you may have slipped through the cracks (my mail filtering isn't all that hot). Please do *not* send it to the zope list, cuz then my filters send it off to the big pile that I don't read that often. -Michel

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Freelance Programmers
by Brendon Grunewald 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

Hi Zopistas, I have some work that needs doing and can't make / find the time to do it, hence am looking for some assistance. (The usual Xchange sites typically are weak in Zope and Python skills.) I would ideally like to find a couple of people that want to do this part time on a project by project basis. This is and will not require full time work, and the size of projects will vary. (e.g the first project will be to integrate several existing zope products into a functional site, no layout and web design needed, just the back end integration.) Can you point me in the right direction? Regards Brendon ------------------ 70South: the No.1 source for Antarcticles. For the latest news and views on Antarctica visit : http://www.70south.com

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Re: [Zope] LoginManager broken?
by dan＠sol.control.com 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

"Mayers, Philip J" <p.mayers(a)ic.ac.uk> writes: > Thanks, I'll take a look. > > Re: LoginManager - After a fast turnaround (confirming my ample faith in > Open Source software) Magnus Heino pointed me in the right direction - the > dtml methods and SQL objects need to be inside the UserSource folder, *not* > the LoginManager folder as the Howto implies (or maybe I just can't > read...). Can someone confirm that the SQL methods need to be inside the > UserSource folder? (which is mildly annoying, but there we go...) This isn't required in my experience. The UserSource will find them via acquisition if the permissions are OK. I tend to keep them in a level above the acl_users (i.e. the LoginManager) in question while debugging just in case I wind up turning off permissions to that folder accidentally.

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Re: [Zope] LoginManager broken?
by Oliver Bleutgen 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

> Well, not 2.2.4 but 2.2.3, and I had some bugs when ehm replace 2.2.3 with 2.2.2

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Re: [Zope] LoginManager broken?
by dan＠sol.control.com 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

You might look at http://www.zope.org/Members/dlpierson/sqlLogin for a different approach that works for me in early testing. Note that it needs additional work before being turned loose on a live site. Dan Pierson "Mayers, Philip J" <p.mayers(a)ic.ac.uk> writes: > Does it even *work*? Even a little bit? Because other than repeating the > same process 12 damn times, so far I'm not convinced. Maybe I'll look in the > source code to see if there's actually anything in the files (other than a > HOWTO.txt, which is empty, which BTW is more annoying than there not being > one). > > The "LoginManager with SQL database" on the Zope site seems to end up with > me having a folder I can't access through the management interface (unless > you count "management" as "this is the index_html" document) Wow, thanks! > Now I have to delete it and start all over again... > > In all seriousness - there *must* be one person who has gotten an SQL-backed > LoginManger working with 2.2.4 - surely? > > Thanks for all the great work (little bugs aside...) - Zope is a wonderful > product! Now if only it could serve XML as well as Cocoon... > > Regards, > Phil > > +----------------------------------+ > | Phil Mayers, Network Support | > | Centre for Computing Services | > | Imperial College | > +----------------------------------+ > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Re: [Zope] LoginManager broken?
by Oliver Bleutgen 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

> Does it even *work*? Even a little bit? Because other than repeating the > same process 12 damn times, so far I'm not convinced. Maybe I'll look in > the > source code to see if there's actually anything in the files (other than a > HOWTO.txt, which is empty, which BTW is more annoying than there not being > one). > The "LoginManager with SQL database" on the Zope site seems to end up with > me having a folder I can't access through the management interface (unless > you count "management" as "this is the index_html" document) Wow, thanks! > Now I have to delete it and start all over again... > In all seriousness - there *must* be one person who has gotten an > SQL-backed > LoginManger working with 2.2.4 - surely? Well, not 2.2.4 but 2.2.3, and I had some bugs when trying it on a copy of a production server. I couldn't get the "old" installation to work in a different directory, although I thought I changed every path in start etc.. I also deleted all pyc files and reran wo_pcgi.py. One symtom was that loginmanager didn't acquire users from a level above. Later on it wouldn't want to to the sql-query, nothing showed up in I postgres' debugging output. Btw. can anybody tell me if and how it's possible to relocate an installed Zope? Back to your question, loginmanager now works fine for me now, and it did so flawlessly on a fresh installed zope. Did you eventually try to use the loginmanager-with-SQL-howto in the toplevel folder? IIRC, this will lock you out permanently. Did you reuse a user name (just a guess that this might cause problems)? Try to find out whether and which sql-queries are issued by LoginManager, I guess other dbs than postgres will also allow to find that out. Oh, and if you try LM in a subfolder, have a look at the undo tab if things go wrong ;-), you might at first use some fake methods at first which always return 1, manager etc. and change them step by step (and say goodbye to security). cheers, oliver

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RE: [Zope] access log analyzer (analog, webalizer etc.)
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

You could use grep/sed, etc, and a some shell scripts (or perl or python scripts). Instead of sed and grep (and regexes, and inconsistent results, and a lot of manual work), what perhaps a lot of folks need is unified, aggregated logging that actually looks into Zope's architecture and uses mod_perl for static stuff and CGIs served in Apache. I've thought about this a bit, and it seems to me that many sites (at least bigger ones) often use a combination of technologies (as well as multi-node server farms) to serve up their site(s). As such, if you are running stuff served from Zope, Apache, CGI, other app servers, etc, you want a unified logging platform. Add to the complication HA/load-balanced/multi-server farms, and you want to be able to aggregate logs from all boxes on all server platforms to log to a unified system. The answer seems to me to be use of a relational database, mod_perl, and the example DBI Apache logger code in O'Reilly's _Writing Apache Modules_ with the following tweaks: 1 - Add persistence to the mod_perl DB connection with Apache::DBI 2 - Tweak the tables to add the following fields: box (server node number, for HA farms) mime-type user object_id (used, along with URL to determine what object is being used by X method) 3 - mime-types determined for Apache-served static pages with RegEx on URL 4 - Zope-served pages are excluded from Apache's logging, use ZSQL methods inside Zope to log (below) 5 - ZSQL method for logging is created. Logs the relevant stats to the relational database AUTHENTICATED_USER is logged to user, and <dmtl-var id> is logged to object_id - mime-type is the object's mime-type 6 - Insert <dtml-call expr="mylogmethod()"> into standard_html_header in top level (all acquired use of standard_html_header will log) 7 - Roll your own report-system using Zope, perhaps... I've already started working on something of this sort for a long-term project I have to implement logging for my company's new HA server farm. Such an approach might also be a good thing if one is using a ZEO setup. So far, I have set up the Apache side of things, logging to MySQL, and I am working on the Zope side of things. The real work, though is not in logging, but report generation, which would be a nice Zope product. Perhaps in a few months, I might have something worth showing... Any thoughts? Sean ========================= Sean Upton Senior Programmer/Analyst Web Infrastructure SignOnSanDiego.com The San Diego Union-Tribune 619.718.5241 sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com ========================= -----Original Message----- From: Martin Winkler [mailto:marwin98@gmx.net] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 5:26 PM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] access log analyzer (analog, webalizer etc.) Hi listies, since we all use names for urls that are not "standardized" - ending with ".html", ".gif" etc - I am wondering how to do a good logfile analyzing with standard tools like those in the subject line. I am usually running zope behind a http-accelerated squid, so I've configured squid to use "emulate_httpd_log on". But how webalizer doesn't recognize whether it's an image or html output. Did someone already write a tool that converts these logfiles like this (or similar): logfileconverter reads the logfile line by line --> checks against the ZODB whether the url outputs a "jpg", "gif" or "html" --> converts the line in the logfile accordingly (e.g. "/mydir/mymethod" to "/mydir/mymethod.html" and "mydir/mypic" to "mydir/mypic.jpg") --> then saves the modified logfile to disk or pipes it to webalizer. Thanks for your input! Martin _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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