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How do I start ?
by Willem Oudyk 04 Sep '00

04 Sep '00

Hi, I have just discovered Zope and am interested in developing a web based application but I don't know where to start. While I am going through the documentation, which will be of help no doubt, I hope these initial questions attract some replies. Here are some of my starting requirements; 1) I need to create a small DB retrieval(mainly) system with only 000's of records and possibly 00's of users. 2) Only a few nominated users will have update rights to the data. 3) The user needs to be able to search for all occurrences of any of the data items presented to them 4) It seems the users have a UNIX infrastructure with an existing DB that is ODBC compliant and has data items which I need to retrieve and update. 5) Re: this last point, I'm not sure of yet if my app also needs to be hosted by the UNIX server or whether it can have it's own server and simply make ODBC calls to the UNIX box. I also don't know what would be preferable. I guess having it all on the same box is more efficient. 6) I am based in Australia and if anyone is in the same timezone (ie. Melbourne) it would be great to make personal contact. I hope someone out there can point me in the right direction. ------------------------------------------------- Willem Oudyk 14 Fortescue Grove Vermont Sth. Victoria 3133 Australia Ph/Fax: +61 (3) 9887 9121 mailto:willem@pangaea.nu Web:www.pangaea.nu -------------------------------------------------

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initialize()
by Kevin Howe 04 Sep '00

04 Sep '00

I've noticed that some ZOPE Python Products define an initialize() routine in their __init__.py file and some don't. From what I can tell it is not really needed, but simply offers a more organized way of registering the Product. Is it good practice to define initialize(), and if so, why + what does it do? kh

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Retrieving ROWID's from Oracle crashes python
by Ayhan Ergul 03 Sep '00

03 Sep '00

Zope has been dying silently with the following configuration: Zope version: Zope 2.2.1 (binary release, python 1.5.2, linux2-x86) Python version: 1.5.2 (#10, Dec 6 1999, 12:16:27) [GCC 2.7.2.3] System Platform: linux2 ZOracleDA-2.2.0b1 Oracle 8i (8.1.6.1) Not being able to figure out what the problem was, I replicated the site on WinNT zope. Crashes repeated there too with NT popping up a dialog box telling that python.exe could not read some memory location. I tracked the problem down to a query that returned ROWID's from an Oracle table. Upon rewriting the query to eliminate the need for ROWID's, crashes went away and Zope has been up since. Anybody had a similar experience? Is it a problem with DCOracle included? Ayhan

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My Apologies
by Jonathan Desp 03 Sep '00

03 Sep '00

Hi Zope Community, I'm sorry about my emails, my friends said me that I was rude. I learned and I hope to be able to don't re-do it. It's only an image, I mean, I know how to give in return, when people give me something. I think it would be great to get a personal assistant. If you know someone beside you, just say that he could be useful at Atomasoft, I have several and clever ideas on how to make money. Plus 4 projects that will make more money. NanoSoft is alot more complex then Zope itself, and we are building it presently, with 8 programmers. Very truly yours, <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Jonathan Desp Chairman and CEO, Atomasoft Inc. Matter will become software http://www.atomasoft.com/jonathan <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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Anyone has LoadSite please?
by Peter Hansen 03 Sep '00

03 Sep '00

In posting this I hope to stave off a flame war. I've downloaded loadsite-1.4.0.tgz from zope.org (without problems) and have sent an email separately to Mr. Desp so he can stop pestering the list for it. (The email contains free advice on etiquette, too.) -Peter > > Jonathan Desp wrote: > > > Anyone here would like to send me the program loadsite via email, by > > > attachment, please? > > > > Why not just search the mailing list archives? > > I did, there is no attachment of loadsite... do you have it in your > computer? why don't you email it to me right now, and then I'll stop to > waste my time. please, email me the program. > > > > > > I'm waiting a reply from Itamar since 3 weeks, and I cannot continue to > make > > > B2BEmerging.com and MEMSCenter.com > > > > Maybe Itamar has his own work to do?! > > I think so. but why you are saying that? it's desctructive.. > > > > > Chris > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Anyone can give me LoadSite by email please? We cannot get it from zope.org > site. so if you have the files of the program called LoadSite, then you know > what to do :) Just give it to Jonathan! :) > > --Jon

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Re: [Zope] Copying a dtml method when creating a ZClass instance
by kamon ayeva 03 Sep '00

03 Sep '00

>From: Tino Wildenhain <tino(a)wildenhain.de> >To: kamon ayeva <kayeva(a)hotmail.com> >CC: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] Copying a dtml method when creating a ZClass instance >Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 10:26:19 +0200 > >Hi, > >kamon ayeva wrote: > > > > I have several reasons whay I need to attach a template to each ZClass. > > Among them are: > > 1/ cases like high level folders where I might want to customize the >page's > > rendering and/or skin, > > 2/ cases like contained objects which uses a generic skin (but you can >still > > customize the skin of one among them, if you want) > > 3/ my site needs to be easily designed / modified by Web Designers that >do > > not understand Acquisition. > >Ah yes. But then, you throw all the advantages of aquisition away. >I would suggest to at least copy the template only on request, >if changes are really made. The 'web designers' should have the >opportunity to delete this template to derive their design from the >previus folder. This way you would not have all the templates laying >around in every subfolder and making changes very very hard. >An yes, this is understandable even by the underenlighted web designer >;-) Definitely agree. Thanks. >Cheers >Tino Kamon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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Volunteers for Atomasoft?
by Jonathan Desp 03 Sep '00

03 Sep '00

Hi, I don't know, but I'm searching a helper. I cannot pay you yet, because Atomasoft is still very little, very small. I have another team constructing NanoSoft O.S., it's a future operating system for the revolution of the miniaturization industry (MEMS,Nanotech). I'll be able to pay people in the future, but not yet. I tryed several times to understand Zope. But like Bill Gates said in an interview, The Open Source world is full of non-compatible system. So everyday, I'm trying to work with Zope, but I'm getting big angryness. I would prefer to see a volunteers, that know this Zope. So that me, I can focus on my businesses. I'm more a business man than a web programmer. --Jon Atomasoft: MEMS Center, B2B Emerging, MEMS Conference, Photonic Software, NanoSoft O.S., MEMS Software, Design/Simulation, in Palo Alto.

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Re: [Zope] ZCatalog in 2.2.x
by Sebastien Yapo 03 Sep '00

03 Sep '00

And how did you fix it ? I had the same kind of problem with ZCatalog an CatalogAware ... Terry Kerr wrote: any word...however, i fixed the problem thanks. to Dieter Maurer Chris McDonough wrote: > What is the actual word you're looking for? 'blah'? > > Terry Kerr wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I can rebuild indexes and recatalog etc, it doesn't change anything. I > > don't see how it could change anything...it is a brand new zcatalog > > instance. Simply, the ZCatalog is created, the indexes are created, and > > the zcatalog is initially empty. Then I create one CatalogAware object, > > and it catalogs itself. I can see this object in the catalog, and I can > > see the textindexed words in the vocabulary. But when I search for a word > > in the vocabulary using a textindex (which obviously belongs to the only > > object in the catalog), I get an empty result. The only way I can get a > > non empty result it to search for the id of the object or one other > > property I have which are indexed as field indexes. > > > > The product I am working on is Etailer. If anyone is kind enough to take a > > look, you can download it at http://e-tailer.adriot.net/download.html. The > > function that does the search is searchFor(), at line 419 of Etailer.py. > > Creating an instance of etailer in 2.1.6 works fine, but creating an > > instance of etailer in 2.2.x and the catalog doesn't work. > > > > i am very confused ;-). > > > > Chris McDonough wrote: > > > > > This is not right, obviously. Can you rebuild your indexes (by deleting > > > and reentering them), recatalog, and see if the problem goes away? We > > > haven't had any colluding reports of something like this, and I'm using > > > the 2.2.1 catalog with textindexes successfully on a customer project. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Terry Kerr [mailto:terry@adroit.net] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:27 AM > > > > To: pja(a)clari.net.au; zope(a)zope.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Zope] ZCatalog in 2.2.x > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not searching from a form in that sense...I am talking > > > > about at the python > > > > level. > > > > > > > > I have self.searchResults({'description':'blah'}) where > > > > description is meta > > > > data in the catalog and a textindex and 'blah' is in the > > > > Vocabulary. This > > > > previously worked in zope2.1.6. Now in 2.2.0 and 2.2.1 it > > > > doesn't work. The > > > > only thing way I can get searchResults() to return a non > > > > empty list is to search > > > > using a Field index and a valid string to match with. > > > > > > > > > > > > pja(a)clari.net.au wrote: > > > > > > > > > Terry Kerr <terry(a)adroit.net> said: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a python product which uses a ZCatalog and CatalogAware > > > > > > products. The catalog has a number of Field and > > > > TextIndex indexes. > > > > > > Search the ZCatalog has worked fine when my product is > > > > instantiated in > > > > > > 2.1.6. But now when I instantiate my product in 2.2.0 or 2.2.1, > > > > > > searching only works when I search using a field index. > > > > Searching using > > > > > > a textindex always results in an empty result, even tho I > > > > can see the > > > > > > words I am searching for in the Vocabulary! Any > > > > suggestions? I have > > > > > > tried reindexing, completey recreating the Zcatalog, > > > > recreating the > > > > > > Vobulary and reindexing, and nothing has changed the > > > > behaviour. Are > > > > > > textindexes simply broken? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ZCatalog seems very volatile to me! Every time I have > > > > upgraded way back > > > > > > from zope2.1.3, something in zcatalog has changed and > > > > boken my product. > > > > > > So far I have managed to find fixes, but this one has got > > > > me baffled!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My experience has been that if field indexes are > > > > unspecified, the catalog > > > > > will only match where those fields are empty. In other > > > > words, by not > > > > > specifing anything for the field indexes, you are actually > > > > specifying that > > > > > for a match, they need to be empty. > > > > > To get around this, I put another method between the form > > > > for entering what > > > > > you wish to search for, and the method that actually > > > > searches the form. This > > > > > method looks at the field indexes, and if nothing has been > > > > specified, it > > > > > doesn't pass them on to the method that does the actual search. > > > > > An alternative to this, is to use names for the field > > > > indexes that aren't in > > > > > the catalog index, and then at the start of the search > > > > method, check those > > > > > names, and if they have a value associated with them, add > > > > to REQUEST what the > > > > > names in the index are with the appropriate values. > > > > > > > > > > There may be a better way, I'm still pretty new to Zope and > > > > DTML sort of > > > > > stuff. > > > > > > > > > > Peter Armstrong > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Terry Kerr (terry(a)adroit.net) > > > > Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) > > > > Phone: +613 9563 4461 > > > > Fax: +613 9563 3856 > > > > Mobile: +61 414 938 124 > > > > ICQ: 79303381 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > > (Related lists - > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > (Related lists - > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > -- > > Terry Kerr (terry(a)adroit.net) > > Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) > > Phone: +613 9563 4461 > > Fax: +613 9563 3856 > > Mobile: +61 414 938 124 > > ICQ: 79303381 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Terry Kerr (terry(a)adroit.net) Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) Phone: +613 9563 4461 Fax: +613 9563 3856 Mobile: +61 414 938 124 ICQ: 79303381

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ZCatalog problem!
by Kevin Howe 03 Sep '00

03 Sep '00

Hi, I have a Folderish class (FClass) and I am trying to write it so that when an FClass object is added in ZOPE, it will automatically create a ZCatalog object inside itself. I attempted to do this in the manner I had successfully done this before with other object types: # handle represents the new object to be added with self,_setObject(id, handle) handle.manage_addZCatalog('CatName', 'CatTitle, None) But this doesn't work. I then did some testing with DTML using the following method inside a Folder: <dtml-call " manage_addFolder('FolderName') "> <dtml-call " manage_addImage('ImageName', '') "> <dtml-call " manage_addZCatalog('CatName', 'CatTitle', _.None) "> The new Folder and new Image were both added with no problems. This was what I expected since the "manage_addFolder" and "manage_addZCatalog" methods are inherited from OFS.Folder.Folder. The method "manage_addZCatalog" however, doesn't seem to have been inherited for some reason. I can add a ZCatalog using the "Add" List, but not programmatically for some reason, as I can with Folder and Image (and probably most other object types). Anyone have the faintest clue why this might be? Thanks, kh

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Way to list vocabulary words specific to a page?
by Kevin Smith 03 Sep '00

03 Sep '00

I am interested in showing the vocabulary words indexed for the page being viewed, to be used as meta keyword data. Is this possible? Thank you, Kevin Smith

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