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date is 1970/01/01 01:59:60 GMT
by Steve Alexander 24 Apr '00

24 Apr '00

I guess there's something wrong with the DateTime module: <dtml-var "_.DateTime(7200, 'GMT')"> yields 1970/01/01 01:59:60 GMT Whilst <dtml-var "_.DateTime(7201, 'GMT')"> yields 1970/01/01 02:00:01 GMT However, when omitting the timezone, it works as expected: <dtml-var "_.DateTime(7200)"> gives 1970/01/01 03:00:00 GMT (I'm in the BST timezone) Stranger still, if I give it the 'BST' timezone, it works too <dtml-var "_.DateTime(7200, 'BST')"> gives 1970/01/01 03:00:00 GMT+1 I'm using Zope 2.1.6, RedHat Linux 6.1. -- Steve Alexander Cat-Box limited

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Re: [Zope-dev] access control problem.
by Stephan Richter 24 Apr '00

24 Apr '00

>I've uploaded my current source to: > > ftp://members.home.net/davidbro/ZopeFish-0.4.0-bug.tgz It cannot find the file. I do not have permissions to the entire directory. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter - (901) 573-3308 - srichter(a)cbu.edu CBU - Physics & Chemistry; Framework Web - Web Design & Development PGP Key: 735E C61E 5C64 F430 4F9C 798E DCA2 07E3 E42B 5391

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Re: [Zope-dev] Disable manage interface on-purpose
by Stephan Richter 24 Apr '00

24 Apr '00

At 08:53 AM 4/23/00 +0800, you wrote: >The manage interface is really making web masters and boss worry. It seems >not easy to separate them from an ordinary zope site without restricting its >usage. However, with a production web server like these is really a danger. >It is also a preventing device for un-technical user to adopting zope. > >Are there solutions such that to restrict the interactive management >interface from being use with run-time option? May not a technically correct >move, but certianly have reason for marketing. An anonymous-only flag? >no-superuser flag? You can restrict the management login (aka superuser access) to a certain domain. To change the superuser name and password: zope> python zpasswd.py access There you can also setup the domain, from which the superuser can access the management interface. Someone please correct me, if I am wrong. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter - (901) 573-3308 - srichter(a)cbu.edu CBU - Physics & Chemistry; Framework Web - Web Design & Development PGP Key: 735E C61E 5C64 F430 4F9C 798E DCA2 07E3 E42B 5391

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Password Problems
by Joern Muehlencord 23 Apr '00

23 Apr '00

Hi! I just tried to install zope on a Slackware 7 Intel PC. In detail I did the following steps: -- cd /usr/local -- tar -xzvf /tmp/Zope-2.1.6.linux2-x86.tgz -- cd Zope-2.1.6 -- chmod 777 var -- ./install -u=root -g=root After that I could read the mainsite on port 8080. But when I tried to open the management screen I could not open it because the password did not match - but I AM shure, that I took the right one. Any Ideas why that happen? May be some wrong permissions? A world without walls and fences - who needs WINDOWS and GATES? In diesem Sinne Joern homepage: http://stud.uni-paderborn.de/~q9jomu http://www.tsv-neuhaus.de email: jomu(a)uni-paderborn.de

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set Properties in several Property Sheets in 1 call?
by Kevin Howe 22 Apr '00

22 Apr '00

Hi All, I have a form which posts to an update method, and would like to be able to do something to the effect of this:  and have each REQUEST property plugged into the Property Sheet where it resides. It there any way to do this, or do you have to specify the sheet? kh

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Re: [Zope] Wiki Parser? (Was RE: [Zope] ZWiki)
by Tres Seaver 22 Apr '00

22 Apr '00

Patrick Phalen <zope(a)teleo.net> > > [Michael Simcich, on Fri, 21 Apr 2000] > :: What's neat about Wikis, to me at least, is that they offer us a communal > :: scratch-pad which is dead simple to work with. It's really trippy to be able > :: to contribute spontaneously to a website, and to intermingle your own > :: thoughts with those of others. > <snip> > :: It does have limitations that bug me sometimes. Nevertheless I think it's a > :: great invention, and one that will probably spawn variants that are just as > :: interesting. Could happen here in fact! ZWiki is utterly simple to set up, > :: thanks to Simon and DC, and eminently tweakable. > > [I don't know if it's appropriate to continue the crossposting that > began this thread. Maybe continued discussion should be moved to zdp?] > > Anyway, Michael speaks about tweaking or forming variants of ZWiki, > which is akin to something I've been thinking about the past few days. > > There is a common need among open source and open standards communities > (including Zope) to evolve discussions from loose and unstructured to > something finally more formalized and ordered (e.g., specifications, > documentation, etc.). The difference with the Zope community is that > we actually have tools which could be adapted to that purpose. > > Wikis provide one model for the loose first stage (Usenet and > threaded mailing list archives provide another). In a way, they > overlay a brainstorming model onto the network model. They permit > fleeting thoughts to be "captured in a bottle." The problem is how > then to migrate from the loose to the structured, once the discussion > has run its course and it's time to organize the material and publish > something formal (documentation, for example). > > Of course this can be accomplished by someone laboriously combing > through the Wiki or the archive and hand-assembling something, but it > would be nice to have tools or hooks to automate the process. > > Generators have been used in past to create FAQs from discussion lists, > but they tend to require a lot of human intervention and they still end > up being too linear. > > Cognitively, homo sapiens aren't equipped with much bandwidth for > complexity; they rely on media to aid them. Wikis eventually evolve > into complex representations of information with no abstract or overview > representation. What Wikis do well is capturing freeform, > brainstorming-style discussion. Thereafter, it would be beneficial to > have different representations of the information they contain, perhaps > including a tree or outline view. How else can you see the whole > picture and organize it into something more useful? > > The Interfaces Wiki is an example. I imagine Michel Pelletier would be > happy, when the time comes to turn the ideas in the Interfaces Wiki into > real documentation, to be able to see the whole Wiki in a linear or > hierarchical view. > > I don't know how ZWiki is implemented, but if it were XML at a granular > level, then maybe it could be parsable into different presentation > formats. > > Or maybe there is some other tool available which already addresses > this. E.g., there is wonderful application program called "Inspiration" > (Win/Mac) which allows a user to bring up a graphical view and add boxes > containing concepts (text and/or images), and then freely interconnect > the boxes arbitrarily with lines to form a "concept map." Then, one > mouse click can turn that into a collapsible/expandable outline view. > > Bottom line: is there a way to parse a Wiki and generate an outline > view? Classic Wiki's internal representation is pure freeform text, using a very simple markup: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TextFormattingRules ZWiki is a Python product, stored also as freeform text. It can actally support "classic" markup, as well as "plain" text and "straight" HTML, but almost all the ZWiki instances out there have suppressed all formats except StructuredText. A great deal of the appeal of WikiWiki is its simplicity, and its reliance on "social engineering" (read "conventions") rather than hard-coded mechanisms, to achieve community goals. For instance, it is possible to leverage WikiSimplicity to add additional structure to a wiki: one creates a "topic" page (e.g., 'TopicFoo'), and then adds references to it on all pages associated with that topic. The "backlinks" for the page then give you all the references to the related pages. I think changes to wiki to make parsing simpler are likely to damage WikiNature; I would be willing to be convinced otherwise, however. Tres. -- ========================================================= Tres Seaver tseaver(a)digicool.com tseaver(a)palladion.com

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get an object based on URL???
by Kevin Howe 22 Apr '00

22 Apr '00

I want to be able to take a URL and read the properties of that object: You can't do it directly in a WITH tag Example:  but it seems like the whole premise of Zope is translating URLs into Objects, is there a routine that can be used in DTML to translate the URL to an object reference? Example:  <br>  Thanks! kh

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urllib from DTML?
by Kevin Howe 22 Apr '00

22 Apr '00

Is it possible to access the urllib module via DTML? I though I could do it like this:  but no luck. Could I have the wrong syntax? kh

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Permissions for properties - argh
by Lalo Martins 22 Apr '00

22 Apr '00

Can't I keep users from _reading_ properties in a ZClass? I already mapped "Access content information" to a permission only Manager has... but then I create a DTML Method (no proxy roles) with <dtml-var "object.subobject.property"> and it renders, even for Anonymous... what gives? (BTW... just realized what a beauty of a paragraph I wrote :-) perhaps you could use this paragraph to test how much Zope someone knows... most people, when trying to read it, will just keep staring blankly at the monitor until they give up... heh) []s, |alo +---- -- Hack and Roll ( http://www.hackandroll.org ) News for, uh, whatever it is that we are. http://www.webcom.com/lalo mailto:lalo@hackandroll.org pgp key in the personal page Brazil of Darkness (RPG) --- http://zope.gf.com.br/BroDar

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How to pass a list of 2 values each to dtml
by Philipp Dunkel 22 Apr '00

22 Apr '00

Hia Zopistas, I have a form that prints out links with checkboxes. I want to pass the checked links to a dtml-method. the form looks like <input type="checkbox" name="urllist:list" value=" [url goes here] || [linkname goes here]"><a href ..... [and here goes the link itself </a> this is printed out for every link. Now I want to call a method foo(url, name) how can I split the passed strings in urllist into 2 parts and assign them to variables in dtml I can pass to foo ? or is there a way to pass a tuple or list in the form directly? TIA Philipp Dunkel

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