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FSSession
by Hung Jung Lu 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

I am planning to use FSSession, but I intend to make the ZODB read-only. Will this be OK? (That is, does FSSession write to ZODB?) thanks, Hung Jung ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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I don't understand a specific <dtml-var> behavior
by danny shevitz 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

I'm still trying to learn DTML and in particular the various rules for when to quote or not or... I have come across the following syntactic issue which I don't understand. <dtml-var title> puts the title in the document. Fine. <dtml-var "title"> puts the title in the document. Fine. <dtml-var id> puts the id in the document. Fine. <dtml-var "id"> puts Nothing in the document. ????. Danny __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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RE: [Zope] I don't understand a specific <dtml-var> behavior
by Chris McDonough 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

<dtml-var id> is equivalent to <dtml-var name=id> <dtml-var "id"> is equivalent to <dtml-var expr="id"> The first is named syntax. What follows the = is an object identifier. The second is expression syntax. What follows the = is a python expression. <dtml-var "id"> returns the object referred to by the id. <dtml-var id> returns the string representation of the object's id. <dtml-var "id()"> returns the string representation of the object's id. Welcome to hell. ;-) Read this: http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/gainenlightenment > -----Original Message----- > From: danny shevitz [mailto:danny_shevitz@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 1:24 PM > To: zope > Subject: [Zope] I don't understand a specific <dtml-var> behavior > > > I'm still trying to learn DTML and in particular the various rules for > when to quote or not or... > > I have come across the following syntactic issue which I don't > understand. > > <dtml-var title> puts the title in the document. Fine. > <dtml-var "title"> puts the title in the document. Fine. > <dtml-var id> puts the id in the document. Fine. > <dtml-var "id"> puts Nothing in the document. ????. > > Danny > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Bug in <dtml-comment> ?
by Christopher J. Kucera 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

I've discovered that the following does not work: <dtml-comment> <dtml-let thisvariable="'some string'"> </dtml-comment> Some text that used to be inside a dtml-let tag . . . <dtml-comment> </dtml-let> </dtml-comment> This is the error I get upon clicking "Change": > Document Template Parse Error > > unexpected end tag, for tag </dtml-comment> What's happening is that *within* the dtml-comment tags, Zope is keeping track of the dtml-let tag, and won't let me continue until I close the dtml-let *inside* of the comment. I would expect that anything inside a <dtml-comment> would be ignored by Zope . . . Is this a bug, or is this an intentional behaviour I don't understand? Thanks, CJ

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Running Zope off a CD-ROM
by Jens Vagelpohl 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

hi everybody, i put up a little howto at http://www.zope.org/Members/jens/docs/zope_on_cdrom that describes how to create a zope install that can be burned onto a CD and run right off it without installing anything to the viewer's hard drive. jens ---- Jens Vagelpohl jens(a)digicool.com Software Engineer www.digicool.com Digital Creations (888) 344-4332 Got Zope? ----

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Re: Photo and ZPhotoAlbum 0.4.3 beta
by Andrew Lahser 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

Here is a long discussion on the PIL/Imagemagick issue for Photo and ZPhotoAlbum, if you are interested. Input is still needed. Drew Jochen Haeberle <Jochen(a)Haeberle.net> said: > At 16:57 Uhr +0000 08.02.2000, Andrew Lahser wrote: > > > - FlashPix would be a great Plus for me, too, but I think there is > > > more to LivePicture Server than just the FileFormat! > > > > > > >You are correct, but it would be possible to write the FlashPix files > >to a directory on the LivePicture server. Since I don't have LivePicture > >and don't plan on it, it would be up to somebody else go get done. > >Yet, they would only have to extend Photo, this shouldn't be much trouble. > > Is there no possibility in adding the most important features of the > LivePicture Server to Photo, namely the zooming and scrolling in a > defined area? > Ok. This is possible, but possibly complex. Essentially, you would make the image an imagemap, keep track of where the user clicked, zoom in on the area and send the new image. I can handle this part. Yet, performance might suck, here is why. Photo would have to fork to call Imagemagick to resizing, therefore the overhead for resizing will be high and performance will be slow. To speed this up, a python to Imagemagick native interface will be needed. There is an immature one in existance. I don't have, *or want*, the skills to complete this part of the task. > > > Why not offer support for severaly Imageprocessing packages where the > > > user can chose from? > > > > > > >Photo is just a zope wrapper around PIL, ZPhotoAlbum is a easy-to-use > >interface for content managers. Supporting multiple packages would be > >like have multiple Photos, but the feature set would differ based on the > >image processing package. I guess this is a long way of saying, "I think > >this would be more a pain in the ass than it would be worth." > > Okay, sounds reasonable :-) > > > > - Conversion options would be very nice, for example Tiff->JPG or Gif > > > Not everything is a "Photo" in the basic sense, maps or line art > > > might look far better when presented as Gif. > > > >Possible with Imagemagick, not so with PIL. > > > > > - Color Conversions would be important for me (and Zope in the > > > prepress area) like CMYK -> RGB... > > > This is very important when dealing with prepress (where many > > > pictures for the web come from, still), but it is very complex, too. > > > Conversion between the two models is done using transfer curves. > > > There are standards for formats on it, but you would need a program > > > able to work with them to obtain perfect results. If you do not take > > > that into account or don't convert at all, the pictures would be very > > > ugly! > > > >Imagemagick might support this, PIL does not. > > > > > - Take Vector Formats into Account, convert EPS->JPEG or Gif. > > > Or even better... use all available formats the solution permits! > > > > > > >Imagemagick handles this, more or less seamlessly, I believe. > > > >Drew > > So it seems like many reasons stand for ImageMagic! > > Jochen > > I think this is the way we will move.

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External Method
by Pedro Silva 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

Hi, I think that I will have to use External Method to have access to Local File System. Untill now, I was using the Zope Product: Local FileSystem, but because I'm having some difficulties to make this work like the way I want, I would like to ask, if somebody, could tell me the code that I must use to make that the External Method access the Local Filesystem. I know that this External Methods use Python. I'm asking for this because I'm new with Zope. Thanks, Pedro

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Access to file content
by Pedro Silva 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

Hi, I want to be able to display some information from a file, that is also in a local filesystem. As you know, the messages that we send to eachothers are sent in mime type and when the are display in our screen, only is showed the Subject, >From who, the Date and the content of that message. Is something like this that I'm trying to do. Can anyone help me on this? Please send your answers to: psilva(a)ruido-visual.pt Thanks, Pedro

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Re: [Zope] DTML Container?
by Tres Seaver 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

Mike <mike(a)if-site.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > I wondered what is the simples (and efficient) way of implementing subj. > > Let I explain first what it may be needed for. > > Suppose we'd like to create a class modeling an article (newspaper > article, for example). An article has attributes 'title' and 'body' and > can contain zero or more photos. Article's body contains some HTML text > exposing those photos, if any. Note the images are aggregated by article > and should not be exposed anywhere else. > > The simplest way is to subclass our Article from (Z)ObjectManager and > implement title and body as properties. On this way we are losing the > DTML capabilities which we were have in DTML document/method. This is a > big lost, indeed (at least we have to write <img src=img width=... > height=... alt=...> instead of just <dtml-var img>). The one way to keep > object DTML-aware is to subclass DTML method also. I tryed this approach > and found this working, but with one exception: <dtml-var img> does not > work. It does not work on _any_ callable objects. The workaround is > <dtml-var "img.tag()"> or something equivalent. This is also not so > good. > > Another approach is to render properties as DTML strings using external > method: > > from DocumentTemplate import HTML > > def render_dtml (text='',mapping={},**kw) : > html = HTML(text) > return html(client=None,mapping=mapping) > > This also works fine but also has a dark side. As I found in sources, > Zope stores DTML methods and documents in parsed form, this was done not > just for fun, I guess. I think the parser is very expensive thing so on > this way we get a great performance impact, right? > > Does anybody have any solution or just mention on it? > > Best, > Mike > > P.S. Why nobody asked this before??? Look at Kevin Dangoor's KM|NetNews Product for a nice take on this. The outline of the solution is to define a method 'index_html' within your ZClass (not inside each instance!). This method "stitches together" the properties of the object to present its "default view". The key problem is to get the "body" property to be rendered using the DTML engine, but filled out using the properties of the main object. Here is a Python ExternalMethod (add it to the ZClass) which does the trick:: from DocumentTemplate import HTML def render_dtml( self, string_property ): """ """ return HTML( string_property, self.__dict__ )() You can then use this within the ZClass' instance_html as: <dtml-var "render_dtml( body )"> In fact, I don't see why this shouldn't be available as one of the 'fmt=' options for dtml-var, like so:: <dtml-var body fmt=render-dtml> This would require adding another entry to the 'special_formats' dictionary in DocumentTemplate/DT_Var.py and another method. (Later: Ugh! that is harder to muck with than it looks! I don't have time to chase it down, I'm afraid. I have some dim memory of a contributed Product which has the word "render" in its name -- perhaps it eases this?) Tres. -- ========================================================= Tres Seaver tseaver(a)palladion.com 713-523-6582 Palladion Software http://www.palladion.com

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Re: External Method
by Chris McDonough 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

Pedro, Please keep responding to the list. Sorry, I can't help you with the code here as I'm pretty swamped (and as I don't know exactly what you're trying to do). If you keep posting to the list, it's possible someone will be able to help you. Thanks! Pedro Silva wrote: > > I was just trying to do this without the External Methods, because i'm > not very familiarized with them. Could you just give me an hint to > whichi would be the code? I know that External Methods use Python and > with that I'm not to good too. > > I think I made a mistake when I decided to learn Zope, without first > know Python and maybe is because of that that I'm having so much > problems. > > Could you help me one more time in this? > > Thanks very much, > > Pedro -- Chris McDonough - Digital Creations, Inc. Publishers of Zope - http://www.zope.org

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