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RE: [Zope] URL problems.
by Michel Pelletier 01 Apr '99

01 Apr '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Hawes [mailto:tim.hawes@ncmail.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 3:59 PM > To: Michel Pelletier; Zope List > Subject: Re: [Zope] URL problems. > > > Well, the only difference that stuck out to me were the > include files for > NSAPI. > nscgi calls for several, but in 3.x all the header files have been > combined into > one, "nsapi.h". I modified nscgi.c to call for this one > header file and it > compiled > cleanly. It does its job very well, and am not all that > certain that the > problem I > am having is related to nscgi at all. > I'm came to this conclusion logicly, as opposed to actually studying your problem (obviously because I can't reproduce it without a recent Netscape Server). You may very well be correct. This problem has never been reported however, and your the first user of this server software we know of. That's how I came to the conclusion that it might be the plugin. > Well, I am a contractor and really don't have that option. I have tried to > sell the idea of using Apache here, but they have already bought massively > into Netscape. If I cannot get Zope to work, I may end up recommending a > commercial package, at least for this case. Try using your trick of modifying the URL to add a DTML method, then try and edit that method putting:  into it. I'm curious about some of the values that the server passes into Zope. If you can't add a DTML document because of this bug, you can use this supreme piece of trickery: First, shut down Zope, then cd to the [Zopedir]/lib/python directory. Then: [michel@aldous python]$ echo '' > test.dtml [michel@aldous python]$ python Python 1.5.1 (#2, Jan 26 1999, 10:47:10) [GCC 2.7.2.3] on linux2 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam >>> f = open('test.dtml') >>> file = f.read() >>> import Main >>> Main.app.manage_addDocument('test', 'This is the title', file) '' >>> get_transaction().commit() >>> manage_addDocument's first argument is the document method's id that you wish to add. Then, go to http://x.y.z/.../test This will show you the REQUEST object. Optionaly if this is too dificult, you can try and make a cgi script which prints out it's environment that the server creates for the script. This might not reproduce the problem if it's nscgiauth's fault, but if it isn't, we might see something in the cgi process environment. -Michel

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Building Zope on BSDI
by John Eikenberry 01 Apr '99

01 Apr '99

Has anyone built Zope on a BSDI machine? BSDI doesn't support shared libraries, so everything has to be statically compiled into python. I just got it to build (python w_pcgi.py finished), but there doesn't seem to be a new python binary anywhere with everything compiled in. To get it to compile, I went through and deleted all the '*shared*' from the 'Setup' files. Any tips? As a side note, I was planning on using the binary porting kit to get it built, then contributing this back to the community. But the porting kit is still Zope-1.9. Is there any plans to update the porting kit. Thanks in advance for any help, --- John Eikenberry [jae(a)kavi.com - http://taos.kavi.com/~jae/] ______________________________________________________________ "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will deserve neither and lose both." --B. Franklin

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Building dtml objects now...
by andreww＠netscape.com 01 Apr '99

01 Apr '99

Im finally starting to build some DTML objects for Dreamweaver, and I wondered if folks could tell me what their "wish - list" might be for this. For example for the VAR tag, do you really want to have to specify all those attributes or should there be a secondary simpler object that just inserts a  Someday when/if dreamweaver get's webdav savvy Ill have the var object obtain a list of all available variables at that level and allow you to just "choose" one. The possibilites are there. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Andrew Wooldridge - Opinions expressed are my own - - andreww(a)netscape.com - http://people.netscape.com/andreww/ - ICQ: 6345881 - Find It at http://dmoz.org - -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [Zope] Building Zope on BSDI
by Brian Lloyd 01 Apr '99

01 Apr '99

> > > Has anyone built Zope on a BSDI machine? BSDI doesn't > support shared > > > libraries, so everything has to be statically compiled > into python. > > > I just got it to build (python w_pcgi.py finished), but > there doesn't seem > > > to be a new python binary anywhere with everything > compiled in. To get it > > > to compile, I went through and deleted all the '*shared*' > from the 'Setup' > > > files. Any tips? <snip> > > So... any tips for compiling the Zope extensions as shared libs? I'll > probably keep working on the static python solution, as I'm actually > making progress on this, and I really have no idea where to start with > shared libs on BSDI (no good leads on dejanews, and egroups is > non-responsive as usual). > > Thanks, > > --- > > John Eikenberry Here are some things I've found in previous struggles to get Zope compiled on bsdish systems -- I'm no guru, though, and I've seen different things work on different bsdx flavors: o you usually need to add -rdynamic to LDSHARED in your Makefiles (this should be reported & worked into python's makefiles, IMHO) o I havent been able to get threads going on many bsd flavors - so you may not be able to pass --with-thread to configure o I find that extensions will all appear to blow up with unfound symbols (such as those you reported) - you need to run make -k and ignore the errors ;) o On some systems, I had to run make -k, ignore the errors, and rename the output .o files for the extensions to .so :( o I seem to remember having to use shlicc on .so files, but I dont recall the details... Hope this helps - please post a status rpt if you get it working, so that the gory details will at least be captured. This is the sort of thing that should be in an installation FAQ somewhere. Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com

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Zope.cgi error
by Daren Sefcik 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

I am trying to get Zope.cgi working (Apache 1.3.4) per the Zope source instructions. When I try to access http://somedomain/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi/manage I get the following error in the http-error log: httpd: [Wed Mar 31 14:52:45 1999] [error] [client 168.240.152.202] Premature end of script headers: /usr/local/www/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi Does anybody know what this means?? TIA, Daren

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NotMail 0.1.0 and IMAPAdapter 0.1.0
by Michel Pelletier 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

Greetings, NotMail-0.1.0 and IMAPAdapter-0.1.0 have been posted to the prereleases area of the site: http://www.zope.org/Download/Prereleases/Mail These are first beta cuts. Both programs are also available in the public CVS. IMAPAdapter allows you to work with IMAP folders and messages in the context of an authenticated IMAP user. Using IMAPAdapter, it is very easy to build IMAP client functionality into your Zope site using DTML. NotMail is a simple web IMAP client that requires IMAPAdapter. Its mail purpose is to verify the operation of IMAPAdapter and to provide an example implimentation of IMAPAdapter's client functionality. NotMail is mostly DTML, and what Python there is is just specific to sending and replying to mail, all other functionality comes from IMAPAdapter. It is important to note that IMAPAdapter looks like a user folder to Zope, in Zope parlance, we call this a user database. It's not a user folder, because it doesn't not contain users. If Zope tries to validate a user against an IMAPAdapter, the IMAPAdapter will contact the IMAP server, try to make a connection with the uid:pwd that the browser supplied, returning either a user object or None, depending on the success or failure of that connection attempt. This means that using IMAPAdapter is quite simple. Here is a snip of DTML to display all an IMAP users mail folders with the #tree tag.    <img src=>   ()     The user object that IMAPAdapter returns (if the user is valid) is placed into AUTHENTICATED_USER. emapFolderTree is one method of this user object, but there are about a dozen or so more methods to do various imap related things like adding/deleting folders and listing and fetching messages. If you plan on installing and trying out NotMail and IMAPAdapter it is important to know that you can configure the roles that IMAPAdapter associates with users that it returns. The two default associated roles are 'NotMail' and 'IMAPUser'. If you want NotMail to work, you will need to add one of these roles (or any roles you care to define as IMAPAdapter's default roles) somewhere above NotMail/IMAPAdapter and then assign that role the 'View' permission for NotMail's DTML Methods. Have Fun! -Michel

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RE: [Zope] URL problems.
by Michel Pelletier 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Hawes [mailto:tim.hawes@ncmail.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 7:49 AM > To: Zope List > Subject: [Zope] URL problems. > > > I just installed Zope on a Netscape Enterprise Server (3.6). > I compiled > and installed the nscgiauth plugin, and all seems to run OK, > except for > one thing: > First off, your the first person (I think) that has come forward with the information that they are using any version of NES higher than 2.0, which is what the nscgiauth plugin was written for. As I have heard (but don't know) there were some significant changes between the 2.0 and higher versions of the NSAPI. So, that you got it to work at all is pretty good. > When I try to add items to the site through the manage screen, I get: > > Not Found > > The requested object does not exist on this server. > The link you > followed is either outdated, > inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to > let you have > it. Please inform the site > administrator of the referring page. > > When I open the frame into a new window, I see that the URL looks > something like: > > http://www.foo.bar.net/Zope/GATE/manage/.?%3Amethod=manage_add > DTMLDocumentForm > > When I edit the URL by hand to remove the "." > This is unreported behavior, which leads me to think that nscgiauth needs a little tweaking. As nscgiauth is unsuported you will have to experiment with this a little. >http://www.foo.bar.net/Zope/GATE/manage/?%3Amethod=manage_addDTMLDocume ntForm >It works fine. What is going on here, and what do I need to do to change >it? I plan on having other people from other departments access resourses >on Zope to create their own objects, and I need this to work right out of >the box. If your looking to showcase this and you can't spend any time working on nscgiauth, I would suggest using either Apache, ZServer, ZopeHTTPServer, or IIS, all of which Zope runs out of the box with. -Michel >Thanks in advance for any help. >Tim Hawes >tim.hawes(a)ncmail.net _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Zope+Virtual Domains
by Daren Sefcik 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

Can the Zope server provide virtual domains or do I need to use Apache?? Right now I have Apache set up with 4 virtual domains and would rather just use the default Zope httpserver. Daren

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RE: [Zope] Namespace Confusion
by Richard Wackerbarth 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

I think that you missed my point. "I" can write python just fine. However, every time something changes, new python functions must be written. It is desirable to allow "DTML programmers" to do simple things which they can accomplish with simple local variables. What I think I should do is create a function, "LOCAL", similar to REQUEST that stores temporary variables. Unlike REQUEST, LOCAL would be bound to the namespace multiple times, each with a different context stack.      The total basket will cost   Or perhaps we can trick the namespace into showing basketTotal without the LOCAL.get reference. On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Shaw, Howard wrote: > Given your needs, I suspect a simple External Method would serve > better... > > What about the local variable? > > Any ideas?

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One week of Zope-expirience
by Tom Deprez 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

Hi all, First of all, thanks to all with their great support and help. At the end of last week I found out about Zope. It looked really interesting, so I wanted to give it a try. Monday after several problems and with lots of help I could manage to enter Zope. Not from Apache as I would like, but from the HTTPServer. Next I wanted to attach Zope with my PostGresSQL demo database. Boy, did it gave me some problems (and all because of my lack in knowledge of Linux). But again several people helped me and today it is solved! Yep, it is done, the hard work can begin. Now, I've to convince other people that Zope is the way to follow. At first blink, Zope is a really nice and great product. I hope it will get the attention it diserves. Still, some work on the documentation, although they already did a great job! Most thingies are written down. Kind Regards, Tom. Now some questions: 1. Have you used CSS-sheets in Zope and how did you use them? Did you incorporated them into Zope or not? Have you got a little sample?

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