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Newbie install help needed !!!!!
by Thomas Schruefer 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

Thus far my attempts to install the Zope binary release on a Linux machine have been for nothing. The Install documentation and the Install program contradict each other at almost every turn. The docs say use ./install -u <userid> but the -u switch is gives a error message, saying it is a invalid switch and not supported at all. The install --help, says nothing about a -u switch. The docs say you can specify the cgi directory, with the -c switch, but the install program says that is a unsupported feature. The -s switch in the docs says this is to provide the superuser login and password to the install routine, yet the install program say this is used to strip tables (perhaps parsing the access file), none of the docs say anything more. I have tried numerous variations, all to no avail. Perhaps the ZDP should have started at the beginning, with usable install instructions, instead of with a FAQ. I must say that the screen shots in the PDF file and those docs are quite nice, but thats about it. Reading the PDF docs, just makes me want to get in and try Zope even more. Is there anyone that could help or give me some pointers ? Tom

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Newbie questions
by Rankine, Alastair 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

Hi Zopesters, I'm trying out Zope for the purpose of getting a book catalogue on the web. So far, I'm extremely impressed with it! Of course, I have some questions. (For the record, I am running Zope 1.10.2 with Apache 1.3.something on a MkLinux DR3 box, administered with IE4 on NT). 1. When you edit a DTML document using the Zope management interface and hit the update button, Zope goes away and tries to parse it to ensure that it's consistent DTML. If this fails, you are left with no option but the browser's back button, which, under IE4 anyway, seems to discard the changes you made to the document. Is there a fix or workaround (besides ctrl-A ctrl-C before clicking the update button) for this? Us newbies write lots of bad DTML :) 2. When a folder acquires an index_html document from further up in the heirarchy, the  tag refers to the title of the index_html document, rather than the folder being displayed. How do you write the index_html document to display the title of the acquired object, rather than the index_html document itself? (Hope this is clear) 3. Finally, I need some advice about how best to lay out the website. Basically I'm trying to build a site containing a book catalogue. Here's what I've got so far: + Root + Titles [folder] - index_html + OriginSpecies [folder, title: "Origin of the Species", desc: "blah", author: "CharlesDarwin", year: 1854] - cover [image] + DiamondAge [folder, title: "The Diamond Age", desc: "blab", author: "NealStephenson", year: 1995] - cover [image] ... + Authors [folder] - index_html + CharlesDarwin [folder, title: "Charles Darwin", bio: "..."] - photo [image] + NealStephenson [folder, title: "Charles Darwin", bio: "..."] - photo [image] Hope the notation is clear enough. What I want to do is "link" the titles to their authors and vice versa. So the index_html document for Authors would display the author, their picture, bio, and a list of titles by them. A similar arrangement would apply for Titles. The author property of the title (*) links the title to author, but what's the best way to link backwards? Similarly, what's the best way to display the author's information for a title? All advice appreciated! Thanks. (*) assuming only one author for now

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Re: [Zope] Impact of Zope on hosting provider?
by Jim Harris 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

I contacted NexusWeb yesterday and they said they would provide a setup for Zope, but no support. They were not specific as to the setup. They did mention they supported Python. I was going to write them back to see if they ran Zserver, or just provided the links to Apache. They did have msql and mysql. The minimum plan to support Zope was the 50MB/$20 a month plan. The other site was out of my price range ($50/mo). I just started studying Zope yesterday to use for a project I was planning to use Visual Basic/ADO/ASP for. I'm testing on a Win95 machine, but plan to move testing to a Linux box. I decided before signing up with a hosting server to wait for Zope 2, which I've seen a couple of references to. What's the deal on that? One place promised a better integrated web server. If Zope moves more torward being a totally self contained server, then I don't want to mess with Apache or IIS. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Wentworth <rhww(a)erols.com> To: zope(a)zope.org <zope(a)zope.org> Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 4:25 PM Subject: [Zope] Impact of Zope on hosting provider? >Right now my biggest obstacle to setting up a Zope-powered >site could be finding a hosting provider I have confidence >in who is willing to run Zope. When I asked my first-choice >provider about running Zope, they replied: > >> Though it's true that we can install programs that need root >> instlall, it only so when the program is low CPU/mem use and >> non-intrusive. Zope is neither, so to run it you would need to get >> your own dedicated server through us. > >A dedicated server is not a viable option for this site at >this point in time. So, a few questions: > >1) Are the provider's fears justified? What sort of > memory footprint, CPU requirements (for a site that > should have fairly low traffic at first), and other > impact are Zope likely to have on a hosting provider? > >2) Would anyone care to let me know what their experience > has been with the two hosting providers (NexusWeb and > CodeIt Computing) listed as known to host Zope-based > sites? (I've been sufficiently badly burned in the past > by bad hosting providers that I cannot justify signing > up for a provider without positive recommendations or > multiple alternatives for backup.) > >Robert Wentworth > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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FW: [Zope] Poll product example screenshot....
by Andy Smith 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

Hmm... the screenshot didn't seem to 'travel' too well, Guess you'll just have to install PIL to see it. ;) Cheers, A.

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Poll product example screenshot....
by Andy Smith 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

Here's a screenshot from the new poll product... (Figures chosen at random and don't reflect the current state of mind of any person or persons ;) ). Cheers, A.. Edit Question Object Id question1 Question Piechart Not bad 64.0 (28.32%) Good 43.0 (19.03%) Ugly 32.0 (14.16%) Been Better 87.0 (38.50%) Responses response1 response2 response3 response4

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(no subject)
by Andy Smith 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

Hi All, I'm just uploaded a new Product to the contrib area. It is a poll product based on Amos's example. It uses PIL to draw piecharts of the poll results. I was originally going to include a precompiled PIL with the product, but the product swelled to 500k as a result, so instead I've left pointers to where to get PIL in the product documentation. I'll send a hypertext screenshot immediately after this message so that people can decide whether or not they want to go to the effort of downloading and installing PIL. Pls note that there are some problems I'm having with getting the GIFs to update appropriately, so after banging my head against a wall for a while [in true opensource tradition ;) ] I've decided to throw it open to the floor to see if anyone can find a workaround. I've also uploaded a 'fixed' version of the Guestbook example product, which broke going from Zope1.9 -> Zope1.10. Enjoy! Andy.

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Re: [Zope] MySQL LAST_INSERT_ID...
by raver＠box.dust.za.net 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

On Tue, Mar 16, 1999 at 02:49:43PM -0500, Tom Jenkins wrote: > > > Error, exceptions.KeyError: unhandled > > > > > > SQL used: > > > > > > select LAST_INSERT_ID() > > > > > > Anybody have any ideas? > > > > Why not use: > > > > select 'id_field_name' from 'table' where 'id_field_name' IS NULL > > > > id_field_name beeing the field with AUTO_INCREMENT set > > > Hi Sture, > Unfortunately, I don't think that'll work since after the insert there will be > a value (non null) in 'id_field_name' > > Thanks for taking the time for a suggestion, I really do appreciate it. > Probly I misunderstod your problem. Anyways I want to say that my suggestion does just what 'select last_insert_id()' does. namely return the number created in an auto_increment field during your last insert Sture Lygren > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Tom Jenkins DevIS (http://www.devis.com) > Linux & Samba 2.0 : The best Windows file server > http://www.zdnet.com/sr/stories/issue/0,4537,2196106,00.html > "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." Romans 12:21 >

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Eric Kidd compares Zope and Frontier
by Kevin Dangoor 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

Hi, I just saw an interesting thread over at http://www.scripting.com. Here's the direct link to the article: http://discuss.userland.com/msgReader$4124 Someone wrote a comparison of Zope and Frontier. Followed up by a technology demo of getting the two to talk via XML. Interesting stuff. Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor kid(a)ans.net / 734-214-7349

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Python Anyone: Linuxworld Article
by Robert OConnor 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

Check out the article in Linuxworld: This is good for ZOPE newbees who wonder what and why about Python (The underlying language of ZOPE). http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/expo/lw-python.html Title: "Python, anyone? " You may have dismissed Python as just another scripting language beginning with 'P,' but more and more open source developers are finding Python has some bite Summary At first, the Python scripting language may sound like another version of Perl, but Robert Richardson highlights the differences that make it useful in its own right. (1,500 words) By Robert Richardson *--- Paul Everitt mentions Zope in the discussion forums related to this article. -bobo connor bob(a)rocnet.com

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Re: [Zope] fsimport
by Milos Prudek 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

> > Does fsdir parameter of fsimport specify the remote directory (where > > Zope is) or local directory (from where I look at Zope)? > > remote directory in your terminology OK, so it still does not work for me. If someone on this conference would look at my mail from Monday, I would be grateful. The idea of having to put all my images into Zope by hand makes me very sick :-) -- Milos Prudek

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