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Re: [Zope] Installation on Solaris
by nexusweb 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

We have installed Zope but can't get it to authenticate. We have placed it in Dick's account so he can play around with it and try and get it working. We really want to offer this to NexusWeb clients but are at a wall and beyond what we know how to do. You can email Jason directly at jason(a)pwebtech.com he takes care of all of our server upgrades and additions. Tam NexusWeb Hosting and Design http://www.nexusweb.net ---------- > From: Jeff Bauer <jbauer(a)rubic.com> > To: dickw(a)tkb.att.ne.jp > Cc: webmaster(a)nexusweb.net; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Installation on Solaris > Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 9:11 PM > > > I've helped convince the people at nexusweb to become a Zope ISP. > > They're pretty friendly in responding to me, most ISPs that I talked > > with flatly refused to have anything to do with Zope. > > But it looks like they're having problems getting it up and running on > > a Solaris machine. > > Any pointers someone can pass their way in the installation? > > > Not exactly sure what the problem is. > > Dick, > > Please provide more information, or have your ISP send > a problem description directly to the list. Zope runs > fine on Sun Solaris. > > Regards, > > Jeff Bauer > Rubicon, Inc. >

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Hiding Products
by Mike Pelletier 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

I needed to have a container-like Product. In order to avoid re-inventing the wheel, I simply made it Folderish, and went about the meat of the Product. There is a companion Product which is contained by the Folderish Product to provide content. I don't particularily want the user/manager to be able to create this Product any old place, since it doesn't make sense out of context. It's not hard to throw an error, but I would rather the Product simply not show up in the list of Addable items in the management system. Is there a way to do this? Mike. -- --- | Mike Pelletier Work: 519-746-1607 /opeware! | Software Developer Home: 519-725-7710 --- | mike(a)zopeware.com Fax: 519-746-7566 http://www.zopeware.com | Zopeware is not endorsed by Digital Creations

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RE: [Zope] DTML Doc property from DTML Method in tag
by Brian Lloyd 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

> this is my structure: > > Folder 'HERE' has Folders within it. > Assume that they have ids ID1, ID2, ID3, etc. > Each of these Folders has a property 'common_name' > > Thus, in HERE/ID1 can reference  and > get 'Name 1'. > > In HERE, I execute a form. The checkboxes build a list ids > ['ID1', 'ID2']. > Processing the form, >  gives me the list. >  gives 'ID1' on the > first iteration. But I want to get 'Name 1' Try this:  My id is:  My common_name is:   Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com

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DTML Doc property from DTML Method in tag
by Kevin Dangoor 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

Hi, I'm having trouble getting at an DTML Document property from within an in tag in a DTML Method. I have a folder property that lists the documents I want to appear in a particular order. I would like to display the "title" and "summary" of those documents.    So, if the docs list contained an entry "test", what would I put in the var tag to get test.title? If I use "test.title", I get the title. If I try "sequence-item+'.title'" or "_[sequence-item+'.title']", I get a NameError. What simple little thing am I missing here? Thanks, Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor kid(a)ans.net / 734-214-7349

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BHS 0.5: download location
by Andreas Kostyrka 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

Hi! I've forgot the download location where one can get BHS 0.5 :( So here it is: http://www.mtg.co.at/bobo/BoboHTTPServer/ Andreas -- Win95: n., A huge annoying boot virus that causes random spontaneous system crashes, usually just before saving a massive project. Easily cured by UNIX. See also MS-DOS, IBM-DOS, DR-DOS, Win 3.x, Win98.

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Re: Date/Time - DTML - SQL question
by chalaouxf＠synbio.tpgnet.net 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

Hi, My solution is to write an Extension method using DateTime module. With year(), mm(), dd() methods the string.join() method and float() function give a way for a float representation like 19990215.0. Never heard about this module until looking inside /zope/lib/python/DateTime directory. Where Can I find information about PrincipiaTime() ? It's cool, cause it is my first realization with an Extension method and my life could be easer than with pur DTML. Do not create a class in Extension method modules. Just use fonction ;) Thanks All, to all for yours ideas. <color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>> In the following sql method I select records with 'date' (a float field) > superior to an 'dayfloatdate' float field. 'dayfloatdate' is just the date > of the day in the float fomat (i.e. 19990215.0) > > How is it possible to construct 'dayfloatdate' before sqlmethod > call cause construct 'dayfloatdate' in the sql method seems > difficult for me :) > > > ----------------------- > SQL method > ----------------------- > select * from table where date > < > > > Bye, FR. François-Régis Chalaoux Bioinformatics Group Synthélabo Biomoléculaire 67080 Strasbourg Cedex FRANCE Tél : 03 88 60 87 14 Fax : 03 88 45 90 70

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BHS 0.5
by Andreas Kostyrka 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

Hi! I've released BoboHTTPServer.py 0.5 today. (Not ZopeHTTPServer!) It has some features: -) URL renaming to support a frontend Apache. Instead of many options, you just provide the real external URL. (UserFriendly!!!) -) Support for more than one external (proxied) URL. -) Sensible usage message :) -) Zope support. (untested, as I do not have Zope :) ) -) Better documentation on how to integrate BHS with Apache. To summerize: BHS 0.5 is (should be, as it's untested with Zope) the easiest way to publish Bobo/Zope projects :), and it can basically do all the cases pcgi can with BHS 0.5 :) Could someone try if it works with Zope? Andreas -- Win95: n., A huge annoying boot virus that causes random spontaneous system crashes, usually just before saving a massive project. Easily cured by UNIX. See also MS-DOS, IBM-DOS, DR-DOS, Win 3.x, Win98.

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RE: [Zope] Mapping Image object properties to img tag attributes
by Paul Everitt 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

Jephte wrote: > It would be cool to map Image object properties to the <IMG> > tag attributes. > When using image for links, it is better to specify the > attribute 'border=0' I *believe* the long-term (read: next 4 weeks) answer to this is expose a knob in the Control Panel. That is, you could go to Control Panel->Products->Images and edit the DTML that formats the result of . Your changes would then apply to all Image objects in your Zope site. Alternatively the management screen for Image objects could be hacked to let each Image control its own. --Paul

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Mapping Image object properties to img tag attributes
by Service Informatique CHSR 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

I just posted this to the collector. What do you think? ---------------------8<------------------------ It would be cool to map Image object properties to the <IMG> tag attributes. When using image for links, it is better to specify the attribute 'border=0' I want to be able to write , with the MyImage object having the border=0 attribute, or . The rendered HTML text is then: <img src=/path/to/MyImage alt="MyImage" border=0> ---------------------8<------------------------ Also, many thanks to Jim who explained that StructuredText gets confused with \r\n. I looked at the code, but quickly gave up as regular expressions is not my hobby :-) Perhaps someone could change this someday? For the moment, i take care of translating \r\n to \n before feeding my database. Regards, Jephte CLAIN Service Informatique

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RE: [Zope] Product Creation Comments
by Paul Everitt 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

Martijn wrote: > Then we add the user interface with DTML. After some initial learning > with DTML, this step is easy too. It's just a question of importing > DocumentTemplate and adding a single attribute to the class > (index_html). Minor stumbling block is that the non Zope > python doesn't > have the Zope modules on its module search path. Adding them resolves > this; I'm not sure however if I fixed it completely (insert completely > vague failures and complaints here :). You should use the Zope debugger for writing Zope Products: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Reference/Debugger It's the Python debugger with enhancements to jump right to your object being published, with a carefully crafted environment resembling an HTTP request. With this you are back in the (for you familiar) world of Python, Emacs, and pdb. Is this a useful thing for you? > You can test the generated HTML easily in a python test > function, then. > Minor step. > > Then we have a publishable object. We can test it with a test_poll.py > file that creates the object to be published. We can call the Zope > debugger to see if it all comes out okay. No problem. > > Now we try to make the leap from publishable object to Zope > product. The > tutorial says there is a long way between these two; and there is! > > The big gap trouble starts here. Suddenly, we don't import > DocumentTemplate anymore, instead we do a 'from globals > import HTMLFile' > for general DTML support. We also import a number of other things. > Suddenly I can't test anything anymore - not with a python > test function > or with the zope debugger, it seems. I get an error message that > complains about the variable 'trueself' that was omitted from the > request. Ahh, I see. If you *could* stick with the Zope debugger, would this be an answer for you? > So after this I can't test things anymore. I still need to make a > creation form and a product installation method. In the tutorial it > mentions the process of turning publishable product into product is a > bit tedious and that in the future there will perhaps be a more > streamlined process. I hope this future arrives soon, as after this, Obviously we're open to specific suggestions about improving it. > still without apparant ability to test, I need to add a producting > editing form, a product editing method, define Zope permissions, > management tabs, a meta type, and a product icon. The system gives no This is *precisely* the kind of feedback we need. > feedback on any of these. Then finally, I can install the > poll and test > it. We realize that we aren't making it friendly at all for people to write products. In fact, we are probably making it so hard that I should send out medals to those that do it :^) > This is too big a bound for me, somehow. I am able to do all > the steps, > but I keep getting bogged down, starting over, knowing I can't test > anything yet. It breaks the quick Python development cycle; it's even > slower than my C++ development cycle. There are too many steps that > don't seem to fit into my short term memory. Part of the > program design > I do during prototyping. I can't seem to do this with products. It's a shame we haven't articulated it very well because it really is a pretty Pythonic way of doing things. However, it currently is about like writing Python apps without the library reference. > A way to resolve this would be: > > * A lot more practice by me. I'm doing this. :) > > * A way to test each step somewhat better. Feedback from Zope telling > you if you're still on the right course. Hmm, explain. > * A more automated process of poll creation. I'm starting to > think about > what this should look like. I can probably eventually help with > design/implementation, if I keep butting my head at product creation > enough. I believe Amos suggested something like this previously. Basically, something that would ask you a few questions then write out a bunch of prototype code. > * I'm missing something. "Martijn, when I create a product I do so and > then so and it's really easy and quick." > > * products are beyond Martijn's feeble mind and he just > should give up. > :) Never! > I want to see more products for Zope. I want to *make* products for > Zope. If it were easier somehow, there would be more products > for Zope, > which would be good for everybody. Ahh, now you are sweet-talking us. :^) > Enough of my lament. I hope it helps somebody else; otherwise > ignore all > as frustration relief. And again, I do like Zope. It's hard for us to know where to start. We got a <FLAME> yesterday from the exact opposite: more examples with no Python, all DTML. We also get complaints about debugging the process of getting it started (apparently Apache configuration is our business as well). It's hard to know where to start, as it is all important. Do you feel that a format like Amos' tutorial is the best one? Or a bunch of sample products? Or a reference guide? --Paul Paul Everitt Digital Creations paul(a)digicool.com 540.371.6909

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