May 1999 - Zope - Zope lists

RE: [Zope] Followup on custom object management
by Paul Everitt 18 May '99

18 May '99

I'd like to see somebody turn Confera into a Z Class. Not only would this make it possible to alter everything through the control panel, *but* you could (in theory) make a subclass-ible mixin. That is, you could add "Collect Feedback" capability to other built-in objects. Just my $0.02... --Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: Jordan B. Baker [mailto:jbb@spyderlab.com] > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 5:09 PM > To: Jim Harrison > Cc: zope > Subject: Re: [Zope] Followup on custom object management > > > On Mon, 17 May 1999, Jim Harrison wrote: > > > In followup to Alex Schad's question, what is the best way > to learn about > > Zope's internal methods for managing objects so that we can > write custom > > management pages for users, as Jordan Baker suggests? > > > > I'm currently working with Confera and I'd like use it to set up a > > workflow system where users can edit or delete previous > entries using a > > custom screen to manage the messages. I'm having > difficulties with both > > the content and security of the management pages--since > they don't appear > > as DTML documents in the Confera topic folder (I guess > they're Python > > methods), I can't find their template contents to inspect > or visualize > > their position in the object hierarchy. > > I haven't really been looking at Confera, but like any other > Zope product > it will probably have its DTML files stored in the lib directory > somewhere. > > For UNIX try cd'ing into the lib directory and running find . -name > '*.dtml' and you will get a listing of the DTML files that are used > internally by Zope to generate administrative interfaces and > the like. > For Windows you'll have to use the Find Files dialog. > > Some pages won't be stored in a .dtml file. Sometimes they're in the > Python source file (extension is .py). With a little bit of > poking around > you should be able to find what you are looking for. > > HTH, > > ------- > Jordan B. Baker -- jbb(a)spyderlab.com > weaving the web @ http://www.spyderlab.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Advice I
by Tom Deprez 18 May '99

18 May '99

Hi, I've two things to make and wanted to ask for your advise : If possible without knowledge of python, only with ZClasses. A knowledge-base tree : - An item should contain : the problem, and the solution, plus an id. - It should be possible to categorize the problems in a hierarchiecal manner. Should I use a relational db for storing the items? Or should I use Zope? -> I guess Zope is perfect for this. Correct? No need of a relational db. For making it simple to add an item, I can make a ZClass of the 'item' For categorizing I make use of the #tree tag. Only problem is that people have to make the hierarchy themself.(i.e. adding folders, etc). And that they are able to add more then only ZClass items... 'e.g. other created ZClasses ' --> Is it possible to let people browse to a page. -->From this page : let them add an ZClass item (without going into Zope/manage) and possible place it in a new category How to handle this problem? Tom.

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Advise II
by Tom Deprez 18 May '99

18 May '99

Hi, This problem is almost the same as the problem in 'advice I'. But now only bigger. Much bigger... Assume this : You've products and per each product you need to store : - Information of product - Information of product for customer - Information of product for producer - Information of product for creator - the way it is processed - Link to every machine it is processed - ... Every product is processed by several machines : - Information of machine - Quality Control information - Link to every product passed through this machine - ... .... Everything has to be stored in such a way that it easy accessable and with different queries. Some informations must be combined on a same page, sometimes viewed seperately. Some information depends on the person viewing it (e.g. Information of product /customer/producer/creator) What is the best? Store it in a relational database? Or into Zope? I could make a ZClass of every item, but resulting in tons of properties per ZClass ... and resulting in 1000zends of ZClasses. Is Zope still manageble?? How to make it automatically as possible? ie. adding ZClasses and in such a way that they are correct placed... Somebody ideas? Thanks, Tom.

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Followup on custom object management
by Jim Harrison 18 May '99

18 May '99

In followup to Alex Schad's question, what is the best way to learn about Zope's internal methods for managing objects so that we can write custom management pages for users, as Jordan Baker suggests? I'm currently working with Confera and I'd like use it to set up a workflow system where users can edit or delete previous entries using a custom screen to manage the messages. I'm having difficulties with both the content and security of the management pages--since they don't appear as DTML documents in the Confera topic folder (I guess they're Python methods), I can't find their template contents to inspect or visualize their position in the object hierarchy. Obviously, I'm an abject newbie. Zope looks like it has some fantastic features and if I can just get enough of the object model into my head, I think I'll be OK. Zope 1.10.2 and Confera 1.2.0 on WinNT. Thanks, Jim Harrison ________________________________________________________________________ James H. Harrison, Jr., MD, PhD Division of Pathology Informatics Department of Pathology, Univ. of Pittsburgh Health System C920 PUH, 200 Lothrop Street Pittsburgh, PA 15213 jhrsn(a)pop.pitt.edu | voice: 412-647-5529 | fax: 412-647-9588 "If you want sense, you'll have to make it yourself!!"-Norton Juster ________________________________________________________________________

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Re: [Zope] Zope on Cobalt RaQ servers
by Luciano Ramalho 18 May '99

18 May '99

We have Zope 1.10.2 running on a Cobalt Cube 2700WG. It compiled and runs flawlessly. Our Qube is a first generation machine, with the 150Mhz MIPS chip and only 16MB of RAM. Zope was a bit slow even for development work (our team has only three people). Now we upgraded the Qube RAM to 32MB and it is OK, but not fast. Zope runs faster on a Pentium running Windows NT with 96MB of RAM, and *much* faster on the IDG intranet site, where the server is a Pentium II with 192MB of RAM and NT. So our limited experience tells us 64MB would be the bare minimum for a low traffic public web site. []s Luciano At 15:53 17/05/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hello, > >I have been in correspondence with my dialup ISP about co-locating with him >so that I could find out my costs to eventually deploy my website. He gave >me a list of options one of which was the Cobalt RaQ. > >What are Zope users experiences running Zope on these devices? > >As much as is possible and when it is possible I would like my setup to be >Z all the way. Zope, ZODB, ZServer, etc. For what I want these devices look >like they would be plenty sufficient. > >What would be the optimum amount of RAM for a Zope server like this? >A single website using Linux, Zope, ZServer and possibly MailMan. >Would 32mb be sufficient or would 64mb be necessary? > >Jimmie Houchin > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Hiperlógica <http://hiper.com.br> Automação de web-sites || Web-site automation

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Pickle module doesn't work with Zope
by Ben Derstine 17 May '99

17 May '99

The code below will work in the Python interpreter but not as an External Method in Zope. It always chokes on the pickle.load line. Will the pickle module not work with Zope for some reason? import pickle def main(): dept='Sales' f=open('/WINNT/Profiles/bend/Desktop/licensing/'+dept+'c.txt','r') item=pickle.load(f) f.close() print item.name main() Benjamin L Derstine RealHelp eCollege.com 10200 A East Girard Avenue Denver, CO 80231 e-mail: bend(a)ecollege.com phone: 303-873-7400 fax: 303-873-7449 http://www.ecollege.com "The Leader in Online Education over the Internet"

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changing user's passwords
by reedstrm＠wallace.ece.rice.edu 17 May '99

17 May '99

O.k. - Anybody got a method for letting Zope User's manage their own passwords? I've got everything else covered (or put off) in my little project, and now I realize I'm the only one who can set passwords. Don't want to give everyone manage_users privilige, that's to big and cumbersome. So, how about it? I suppose it needs an External Method, or something. It'd be nice if the AUTHENTICATED_USER object had a public interface for this: something that checked to make sure the current user either had manage_users privilige in this folder, or was the current user. Ross -- Ross J. Reedstrom, Ph.D., <reedstrm(a)rice.edu> NSBRI Research Scientist/Programmer Computer and Information Technology Institute Rice University, 6100 S. Main St., Houston, TX 77005

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Reload python modules
by Ben Derstine 17 May '99

17 May '99

I'm using python code in the form of an external method which imports other modules which in turn import other modules. Is there anyway to get Zope to do a global reload of all these modules? The only way I could figure out how to do it is to stop and start Zope which is a real pain. Benjamin L Derstine RealHelp eCollege.com 10200 A East Girard Avenue Denver, CO 80231 e-mail: bend(a)ecollege.com phone: 303-873-7400 fax: 303-873-7449 http://www.ecollege.com "The Leader in Online Education over the Internet"

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RE: [Zope] Undeliverable: Zope.org Membership Information (Sorry 'bout that)
by Michel Pelletier 17 May '99

17 May '99

Sorry, mail server coughed up a hairball to the list. Now are dark shameful secret is out, we use Exchange. -Michel > -----Original Message----- > From: System Administrator [mailto:postmaster@digicool.com] > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 5:38 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Undeliverable: Zope.org Membership Information > > > Your message > > To: expo(a)expo.digicool.com > Subject: Zope.org Membership Information > > did not reach the following recipient(s): > > expo(a)expo.digicool.com on Mon, 17 May 1999 17:38:24 -0400 > The recipient name is not recognized > MSEXCH:IMS:Digital Creations:DCI:GANDALF 0 (000C05A6) Unknown > Recipient > > >

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running zope behind apache
by Kevin Lewandowski 17 May '99

17 May '99

I configured ZopeHTTPServer to run on 127.0.0.2 port 5000 (as suggested in one of the example scripts) and used mod_rewrite and mod_proxy to route requests from http://website/zope into 127.0.0.2:5000. That works but all subsequent links (like on the main manager screen) are pointing to 127.0.0.2:5000, which the browser can't see. Am I missing a configuration option? thanks Kevin

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