May 2000 - Zope - Zope lists

Re: [Zope] looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model"
by Frederic QUIN 25 May '00

25 May '00

Hi Chris, Hi Peter I really appreciate your help but I had already seen the Zope Architecture Model. Wath I am looking for is a model which shows the relations between the Zope Classes (Folder, File, DTML Methods, ...) Frederic -----Message d'origine----- De : Chris Withers <chrisw(a)nipltd.com> À : peter(a)grenna.net <peter(a)grenna.net> Cc : 'Fr d ric QUIN' <frederic.quin(a)free.fr>; zope(a)zope.org <zope(a)zope.org> Date : jeudi 25 mai 2000 13:32 Objet : Re: [Zope] looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model" >Where oh where is this linked from? > >Chris > >peter wrote: >> >> http://www.zope.org/ZopeArchitecture >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of >> Frédéric QUIN >> Sent: 25 May 2000 13:36 >> To: zope(a)zope.org >> Subject: [Zope] looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model" >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model" to start developing my >> own ZClasses... >> >> Thanks >> Frederic >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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calling an Python builtin function
by Felipe Alvarez Harnecker 25 May '00

25 May '00

Hi Zopistas, it's a pain looking to variables defined in a form such as checkboxes that can be a string if one is selected or a sequence if many are. to solve this problem i'd like to do something like: <dtml-let checkbox="list(checkbox)"> ... ... </dtml-let> That is, calling the list function of Python on checkbox. But that doesn't work, neither <dtml-let checkbox="_.list(checkbox)"> Beside of this, is there a way to test if foo is a string or a sequence or whatever ?? Thanks. -- ______________________________________________________ Felipe Alvarez Harnecker. QlSoftware. Tel. 09.874.60.17 e-mail: felipe.alvarez(a)qlsoft.cl Potenciado por Ql/Linux http://www.qlsoft.cl ______________________________________________________

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looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model"
by Frédéric QUIN 25 May '00

25 May '00

Hello, I'm looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model" to start developing my own ZClasses... Thanks Frederic

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RE: [Zope] looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model"
by peter 25 May '00

25 May '00

http://www.zope.org/ZopeArchitecture -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Frédéric QUIN Sent: 25 May 2000 13:36 To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model" Hello, I'm looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model" to start developing my own ZClasses... Thanks Frederic _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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ZClasses newbie question
by Graham Chiu 25 May '00

25 May '00

I've a ZClass derived from a DTML Document. When you add a DTML Document, it always has some default DTML present. How do I get my ZClass to do the same? ( I want to call my instance like <dtml-var myZclass> to display the object as opposed to doing this <dtml-var "myZclass.display(myZclass,_)"> ) -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiu<at>compkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

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Moving the "html_standard_header" in an another folder...
by Frédéric QUIN 25 May '00

25 May '00

Hello everybody, I'd like to move files like "html_standard_header" in a new folder called "Models". I tried to access to "html_standard_header" like that : <dtml-var Models.html_standard_header> but it didn't work... Wath's the solution ??? Thanks Frederic

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Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope
by Rik Hoekstra 25 May '00

25 May '00

>Seriously, Python and Perl are two scripting languages, similar in >scope, both successful. The Java market has about a thousand choices >for app servers, whereas the Perl market's need is largely unmet. > >> would be Java floating around in Zope's bowl before Perl! Perl? >> Jeeze... what a great but very scary thing. I trust that DC will do >> it right. > >Yes we will. As Jim is fond of saying, we allow methods in a lot of >languages already: Python, HTML (DTML), SQL, and soon XSLT. The latter >is *definately* one that will make Perl look readable. :^) > >Don't worry, this is a Good Thing. Scripting languages should work >together and present a strong alternative. > Agreed, but the need for a Zope best practices guidelines (when to use what, and when _not_ to use it) is growing with every new language/method ;-) Rik

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Re: [Zope] ZWiki - how to dynamically add a page?
by Rik Hoekstra 25 May '00

25 May '00

>Dear Chris, > >Thanx a lot for your suggestion. Zwiki is indeed something very helpful to >me. >I've got a couple fo questions, though: > >1. How can I dynamically add a Zwiki page? >It says there: > > "To create a link to another wiki page, just write its name. (If you >don't use a WikiName, you must enclose > the name in square brackets). You edit the page, put in a WikiName (is a name with some uppercase and lower case characters like, um WikiName). That is all; it will show on the edited page with a question mark. > > If the page does not yet exist, a ? will be displayed - click it to >create the new page. This is how new wiki > pages are added." > >Where do I have to write the name?? There's a form field in the upper right >corner of a Zwiki Page header, but inserting a new name there doesn't work. > >2. How can I add dynamically ZWiki Pages to different folders in > >/Control_Panel / Products / ZWiki / zwiki_examples / folder??? What do you want to accomplish? Rik

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ZSQL Methods and Zope stopping
by John Chandler 25 May '00

25 May '00

A curious problem has just manifested itself. Pertinent technical stuff: Zope 2.1.6, Linux Red Hat 6.1, ZMySQLDA 1.1.3 I've just copied and pasted some methods (including some ZSQL methods) from a colleague's project folder to the folder for a new project, using the management intrface copy and paste facility. In the manage interface, clicking on a DTML method is fine, but when I click on a ZSQL method in the folder list to change the database connection (since the connection for the colleague's project won't exist), Zope quits silently, no log errors, no shutdown messages, no console output... John -- John Chandler / Software Developer / New Information Paradigms Ltd [ Linux in the office, AmigaOS in the home, PalmOS in the pocket ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The opinions above aren't those of my company... ...but then, they aren't really mine either.

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Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation
by Rik Hoekstra 25 May '00

25 May '00

-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Spicklemire <jerry(a)spicklemire.com> To: zdp(a)zope.org <zdp(a)zope.org> Date: donderdag 25 mei 2000 1:11 Subject: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation >(forwarded from Zope(a)Zope.org) > >Jason Cunliffe wrote: > >Perhaps you have a better crazier idea..I hope so:-) > >Maybe. I too have had problems with the ZDP stuff, but not specifically >those mentioned by others in this thread. When I try to use the ZDP I am >impressed by the effort and sheer volume of material, but unfortunately it >seems to be mostly supported by non-native English speakers. The result is >that I am often uncertain that I clearly understand what the author >intended. That leaves me in a state that is nearly worse that where I >began, potentially more knowledgable, but certainly more confused. Now, for >that crazy solution. > >If the ZDP were in some Wiki-ish form that could be edited by readers >("Edit This Page", a la Frontier?), a new version of a page could be >created to fix the most obvious misexpressions. The author might then be >able to review the updates, and either approve the fixes, or clarify cases >where a misfix has resulted from a misinterpretation, which itself is a >verifiable indication that the original text was somewhat obscure. After a >few passes through this process, the ZDP might be dressed up and ready to >go to press! > >In a case like the proposal above, anyone willing to do some copyediting >would be free to edit a paragraph at a sitting, if that's the all the time >available, or a page, or a chapter. Whatever works. I know I have been >reluctant to commit to any extensive participation simply because my time >is very limited. Still, as tight as the schedule is, it isn't quite in the >negative microseconds yet, so a graph per shift is better than nothing! > >With this in mind see the very recent post: > > http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2000-May/005021.html > >This is a way to manage Zope Objects, stuff that usually lives in ZODB, >using CVS. This can provide versioning, checkout, checkin, etc. It could be >used as a way to let ZDP Authors know what's changed, at a very granualr >level, to keep from having to wade through the page looking for somthing >that isn't precisely as it was last time they saw it. ZDP is itself a Zope >site, so this could be just the ticket. > Perhaps, but i think this is not necessary (though I liked the product idea). Should you become a member of the ZDP site, than Maik already created many such tools, including commenting, reviewing, discussing etcetera (and search possibilities for documentation that needs it). We badly need people for these tasks, though, and nobody has taken these tasks up yet. Mindlace just yet announced serious involvement by DC, but we never had input from them before (sorry to say so) Please take into account that at the moment the whole ZDP, including programming, writing documentation etc, takes the effort of far less than ten people, who work at it in their spare time. Or to put it differently: ZDP NEEDS CONTRIBUTORS, REVIEWERS, EDITORS, WRITERS Help us out and the whole Zope community will benefit. Rik

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