March 2001 - Zope - Zope lists

avoiding nested DTMLs
by Timothy Wilson 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out how to do something here while avoiding nested dtml tags. Here's what I've got: I have a TinyTable containing two fields: "name" and "status". I have a DTML Document in the same folder as the TinyTable for each "name" in the TinyTable. I want to display that DTML Document based on the value of "status" in the TinyTable. Here's some code: <dtml-in testTable> <dtml-if "status <> ''"> <<< insert DTML Document here >>> </dtml-if> </dtml-in> So in the code above I want to insert <dtml-var spam_html> (which is a DTML Document in the current folder), for example, if the TinyTable contains a line that looks like: "spam_html", "X" I hope I'm making myself clear. Anyone have any ideas? -Tim -- Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.k12.mn.us/ | http://www.zope.org/ W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org/ wilson(a)visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com/

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ZClass direct variable access
by Phill Hugo 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

Is there a way to access property sheet variables from a zclass method without knowing which property sheet it is contained within. For example, Class A has two prop sheets, S1 and S2 and Var1 is in S2. I can do container.propertysheets.get('S2').getProperty('Var1') or (if I has subclassed ObjectManager)... container['Var1'] The latter form I prefer since it doesn't require knowledge of which sheet I'm really using but it only works if the zclass is based on ObjectManager. In other cases it raises an exception (AttributeError, __getitem__) Any ideas or should this be added to the collector (I've a feeling a basic __getitem__ should be included in ZObject for this type of thing). Phill

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PDF Files
by Kenneth Ellested 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

Can Zope (ZCatalog) index PDF files ?

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dtml login
by David Kyte 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

Hi, I want to create a DTML method/form that provides a login for other areas of the site ie form contains username/password text boxes and then forwards to userfolder protected areas. I presume that some manipulation of REQUEST is required. I've scoured the zope and zdp sites and not come up with anything. Thanks

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Changing Permissions in ZClasses
by David Kyte 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

Hi, I have a ZClass that creates a Client Tree, with various folders etal in the instance. I have also added an user_acl to make the the subtree private. All works dandy except I can't find how to turn off the anonymous View inherit permission. Ideally I want a dtml-call command to negate the inherit view permission. Any pointers, FAQ references, etc? Thanks in advance

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Sendmail: Problem with string.join
by Steve Smith 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

OK, what's wrong with this then? <dtml-let email_list=dbGetRumourInterest> <dtml-let followup_list=dbGetFollowups> <dtml-if email_list> <dtml-sendmail mailhost="MailHost"> To: <dtml-var expr="_.string.join(email_list,',')"> From: ozrail(a)bigpond.net.au etc... I found the string.join example in an email from Dieter, but when I try this I get an error: first argument must be a sequence of strings. When I run the SQL standalone, it returns what looks like a sequence of strings to me. Any clues out there? Steve

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Re: ZMySQL Database connection trouble
by Dave Woolston 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

> hi, > >I am trying to add a ZMySQL database connection. Everything seems to go >ok, but when I try to view the Products Management, it shows the ZMySQL as >a broken product, when I view it, there is an error that says: > >ImportError: /usr/lib/python1.5/site-package/MySQLmodule.so: undefined >symbol: uncompress > >If I try to go the the /opt/zope/lib ,etc. directory and start the db.py >connection directly, python db.py, i get the same error. > >If someone could provide some direction on how to recompile the .so file >so that it can handle the uncompress problem, I would be most grateful. > >btw, i've read the various howtos on the zope.org site, and i didn't find >this particular problem there. > >I am running MySQL 3.23, the most recent release of zope, on linux 2.2 >running slackware 7.0 > >Many thanks. > >ciao! >greg. > >Gregory Haley >DBA/Web Programmer >Venaca, LLC Gregory, I got this a while back - here are my notes: NOTE: The first time I got a problem relating to umcompress: ImportError: ./_mysqlmodule.so: undefined symbol: uncompress You may need to add -lz to you Setup.in file per this: http://www.ravenbrook.com/project/p4dti/import/2000-08-09/python-mysqldb-0.2 .2/MySQLdb-0.2.2/doc/MySQLdb-FAQ-1.html Then I moved MySQLdb.py* to /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages and I was able to run python and import _mysql After that, I copied the _mysqlmodule.so module up to the ZMySQLDA directory restarted Zope and was able to create a connection. Good luck ================================= Dave Woolston davew(a)digicool.com Digital Creations www.digicool.com (716) 262-4715

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RE: MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface.
by Ryan Ware 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

Always trust content from Microsoft! > Hi, > > This morning I installed a few upgrades to MS 98 (Internet Explorer 5.01 > Service Pack 1) and when I go to my Zope site I can no longer see the > management pages. The right frames are displayed and the navigation tree, > but instead of the management screen for a folder I get the view contents. > > Any Ideas? > > -----Original Message----- > From: zope-request(a)zope.org [SMTP:zope-request@zope.org] > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:05 AM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Zope digest, Vol 1 #1262 - 46 msgs > > Send Zope mailing list submissions to > zope(a)zope.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > zope-request(a)zope.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > zope-admin(a)zope.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Zope digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Zope security management (Bill Welch) > 2. Re: newbie zope question -- stuck in quick-start page (Chris > McDonough) > 3. Can't get 2.3.1b2 sparc to run (Daniel Rusch) > 4. Strange ZCatalog behaviour (Ingo Wilmer) > 5. Re: dtml-sendmail and envelop sender [Q] (Bruno Mattarollo) > 6. Re: Zope security management (Bernd Worsch) > 7. Can one protect dtml from being rendered? (Bernd Worsch) > 8. RE:ZCatalog update question (Darin Lee) > 9. Re: Can't get 2.3.1b2 sparc to run (Chris McDonough) > 10. Re: Zope security management (Phil Harris) > 11. Re: why does manage_addDocument give me a method? (Dieter Maurer) > 12. Re: freebsd error (Dieter Maurer) > 13. Re: ZClass direct variable access (Dieter Maurer) > 14. Re: <dtml-sendmail> (Dieter Maurer) > 15. Re: dtml-sendmail and envelop sender [Q] (Dieter Maurer) > 16. MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. (Echlin, > Michael) > 17. Re: MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. (Phil > Harris) > 18. Re: MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. (Andy > McKay) > 19. RE: MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. (Echlin, > Michael) > 20. (no subject) (Cees de Groot) > 21. R: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes (svedovelli) > 22. R: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes (svedovelli) > 23. Zope vs. other app servers. Any comparison available? (Satheesh > Babu) > 24. R: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes (svedovelli) > 25. R: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes (svedovelli) > 26. Re: MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. (Chris > McDonough) > 27. AW: [Zope] RE:ZCatalog update question (Marc Fischer) > 28. DeprecationWarning (Norman Khine) > 29. Re: DeprecationWarning (Phil Harris) > 30. Re: Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes (Tino Wildenhain) > 31. Re: ANNOUNCE: ZopeMake 1.0 (Tino Wildenhain) > 32. Re: Can one protect dtml from being rendered? (Chris Muldrow) > 33. avoiding nested DTMLs (Timothy Wilson) > 34. Getting Errors trying to map permissions in Zope 2.3.0 for win32 > (Anton A. Zotov) > 35. Re: avoiding nested DTMLs (Casey Duncan) > 36. Re: Zope security management (John Morton) > 37. Re: avoiding nested DTMLs (Timothy Wilson) > 38. Re(2): [Zope] Zope hosting (David McCuskey) > 39. More ZClass oddities (John Morton) > 40. RE: Installation Probs (Brian Lloyd) > 41. ZMySQL Database connection trouble (ghaley(a)mail.venaca.com) > 42. some confusion on ftp security. (Patrick) > 43. newbie (Dennis Pabalan) > 44. Re: avoiding nested DTMLs (Luciano Ramalho) > 45. Large File Support ?! (Andrei Cenja) > 46. Re: <dtml-sendmail> (Petr Knapek) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:07:05 -0500 (EST) > From: Bill Welch <bill(a)carbonecho.com> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope security management > > To achieve genuine security, you have to do something about the 'password > in the clear' problem. > > part 1) With basic auth (the zope default), the user's name and password > are sent in the clear with every request. > > part 2) With form based login (login manager, zmc), the user's name and > password are sent in the clear when the login form is submitted. > > Solution: Have to go with form based login that uses ssl to send user's > name and password. Unfortunately, in my experience, ssl support for zope > is only thrid party (no offense to Mr. Siong or Mr. Bickers, thanks for > your work so far) and hard to integrate, when this is really a core > requirement. > > I think this is something that DC has to handle. > > Bill. > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Bernd Worsch wrote: > > > It's some time ago, the issue of denying roles showed up. > > > > I'd really wish to see this implemented, so has this problem > > made it into the collector? (The feature index seems broken > > to me at the moment) > > > > Thanks to John for pointing out what i thought :) > > Bernd > > > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 10:00:13AM +0000, Chris Withers wrote: > > > "John R. Daily" wrote: > > > > > > > > That is precisely what is wrong with the model. To achieve > manageable > > > > and genuine security, I want to acquire _all_ permissions and > > > > specifically deny those roles to which the inherited permissions may > > > > not be correct. > > > > > > I'd agree with this, but I don't know how important it is. > > > > > > I'd suggest chucking it in the colelctor asa Featuer Request. > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > (Related lists - > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > -- > > > > -----Bernd Worsch-----------bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de-------- > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> > To: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk>, > "Sundar Narasimhan" <sundar(a)ascent.com> > Cc: <cduncan(a)kaivo.com>, <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] newbie zope question -- stuck in quick-start page > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:37:41 -0500 > > OK, I updated the QuickStart page with an informative message. Thanks...! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk> > To: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com>; "Sundar Narasimhan" > <sundar(a)ascent.com> > Cc: <cduncan(a)kaivo.com>; <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Zope] newbie zope question -- stuck in quick-start page > > > > I've seen similar problems on W2K with IE5, 5.01, 5.5 (but not 5.51). > > > > Phil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> > > To: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com>; "Sundar Narasimhan" > > <sundar(a)ascent.com> > > Cc: <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk>; <cduncan(a)kaivo.com>; <zope(a)zope.org> > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [Zope] newbie zope question -- stuck in quick-start page > > > > > > > What exact versions of IE does this actually happen under? Anybody > know? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> > > > To: "Sundar Narasimhan" <sundar(a)ascent.com> > > > Cc: <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk>; <cduncan(a)kaivo.com>; <zope(a)zope.org> > > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:21 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Zope] newbie zope question -- stuck in quick-start page > > > > > > > > > > > Understood. Here's a small suggestion -- I'd do it myself if I > knew > > > > > how. I'd put in a short paragraph (or at least a link to this > > > > > problem's description) somewhere in the beginner's guide/install > > > > > documents. Most people will install zope, fire up their browsers, > and > > > > > when they connect be baffled (as I was) when they don't see > anything > > > > > like those management tabs come up. If I'd seen a brief mention to > > > > > "check your browser version".. it would have saved me a bunch of > time. > > > > > > > > Actually, I'll go in and change the quickstart page myself, this is > a > > good > > > > idea, I dont know why I didn't think of it... > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > > (Related lists - > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:13:45 -0600 > From: Daniel Rusch <drusch(a)globalcrossing.com> > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Can't get 2.3.1b2 sparc to run > > All, > > Any body have any ideas why I can't get 2.3.1b2 sparc to run. I download > the tar ball, unzipped it, ran install, untar'd some products and ran > start I get a bunch of error messages like below for each core product? > > ------ > 2001-03-19T17:06:23 ERROR(200) Zope Couldn't install OFSP > Traceback (innermost last): > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line > 627, in install_products > (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) > (Info: OFSP) > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/Products/OFSP/__init__.py, > line 189, in initialize > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/App/ProductContext.py, > line 365, in registerHelp > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/App/ProductContext.py, > line 298, in registerHelpTopic > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, > line 300, in _setObject > (Object: Traversable) > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/HelpSys/HelpTopic.py, > line 152, in manage_afterAdd > (Object: HelpTopicBase) > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/HelpSys/HelpTopic.py, > line 165, in index_object > (Object: HelpTopicBase) > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/ZCatalog > .py, > line 424, in catalog_object > (Object: Traversable) > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/Catalog. > py, > line 442, in catalogObject > File > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/SearchIndex/UnTextIndex.py > , > line 335, in index_object > SystemError: error return without exception set > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:10:37 +0100 > From: Ingo Wilmer <wilmer(a)zeitspringer.de> > Organization: die zeitspringer > To: zope <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: [Zope] Strange ZCatalog behaviour > > Hi Zopistas > > I experience Problems using ZCatalog, > See following example: > <dtml-in "Catalog(meta_type=3D'ZClass_seite_press',region=3Dzregion)"> > where zregion is one string and region is a list indexd as text > when i change this to =20 > <dtml-in "Catalog(meta_type=3D'ZClass_seite_press',region in zregion)"> > where zregion itself is a list, containing 3 or more strings that=20 > should match on some instances of ZClass_seite_presse i can't > even get this into zope, because i recive this error > > non-keyword arg after keyword arg > , for tag <dtml-in "Catalog(meta_type=3D'ZClass_seite_presse',region in > zregion)"> > > so, how would i get the goal, searching in ZCatalog with my list as > mentioned=20 > in the Howtos. > > Thanks in advance to anybody out there. > > --=20 > ingo wilmer > gesch=E4ftsf=FChrung > > tel +49 251 98704-22 | j=FCdefelder str. 37 | > http://www.zeitspringer.de=20 > fax +49 251 98704-11 | 48143 m=FCnster | > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "Bruno Mattarollo" <bruno(a)dynamic.greenpeace.org> > To: "Stefan H. Holek" <stefan(a)epy.co.at>, <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] dtml-sendmail and envelop sender [Q] > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:21:13 +0100 > > Thank you Stefan, > > I was just writing an external method that would do what you recommen= > d. > Great! Thanks to everybody!!! It works as expected! > > Cheers! > > /B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan H. Holek" <stefan(a)epy.co.at> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Cc: "Bruno Mattarollo" <bruno(a)dynamic.greenpeace.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Zope] dtml-sendmail and envelop sender [Q] > > > --On Montag, 19. M=E4rz 2001 17:10 +0100 Frank Tegtmeyer > <frank.tegtmeyer(a)cia-mediahaus.de> wrote: > > >> So according to the spec I should use "Sender: <dtml-var > >> OurBounceProcessingAccount>" in our DTML-Method that uses > >> dtml-sendmail, no? > > > > To handle autoresponders etc. that's ok. It doesn't handle delivery > > failures. You HAVE TO set the envelope sender accordingly (I think for > > Postfix it's the -f switch like for sendmail). To do that you have to > > generate a new method - possibly as external Python method. > > After we all agreed that "Errors-To:" is bad ;) > your external method could look like this: > > import os > > sendcommand =3D '/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -oi -f%s' > mailtemplate =3D 'From: %s\nTo: %s\nSubject: %s\n%s\n' > > def sendMail( bounceto, mailfrom, mailto, subject, body ): > p =3D os.popen( sendcommand % (bounceto), 'w', 1 ) > p.write( mailtemplate % (mailfrom, mailto, subject, body) ) > p.close() > > > HTH, > Stefan > > -- > Things work better when plugged in. > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:54:21 +0100 > From: Bernd Worsch <bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de> > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope security management > Reply-To: Bernd Worsch <bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de> > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:07:05PM -0500, Bill Welch wrote: > > To achieve genuine security, you have to do something about the > 'password > > in the clear' problem. > > > > part 1) With basic auth (the zope default), the user's name and > password > > are sent in the clear with every request. > > > > part 2) With form based login (login manager, zmc), the user's name and > > password are sent in the clear when the login form is submitted. > > > > Solution: Have to go with form based login that uses ssl to send user's > > name and password. Unfortunately, in my experience, ssl support for zope > > is only thrid party (no offense to Mr. Siong or Mr. Bickers, thanks for > > your work so far) and hard to integrate, when this is really a core > > requirement. > > > > I think this is something that DC has to handle. > > > > Bill. > > > > Well your quite right, but this is another problem with zope security > and more or less independent of zope security management features. > > BTW isn't it normally recommended to shield z-server by apache doing > for the ssl stuff? If so, then there at least is some workaround possible. > > The kind of complicated and unusal management of security in zope on > the other hand applies even, when only doing intranet stuff without > any connection to the outside. As pointed out before the problem isn't > that one can't realize the security policy he/she wishes but that it is > quite painful at times. > > Suppose the following object/folder hierarchy: > > A containing AA and AB. AA containing AAA and AAB, AB containing ABA and > ABB. > > A > AA > AAA > AAB > AB > ABA > ABB > > Suppose there is a role R which grants access to some objects. All the > users > have role R everywhere except in AAA and ABA. As far as i know there is > no > way to realize this security policy using role R alone. > > What you can do, is click through the security tabs in AAA and ABA so > that > role R isn't known in AAA and ABA blocking access to them. Then you > define > the role S in AAA and ABA, by checking the same boxes as you had in role > R. > Now you can give some of your users the local role S in AAA and ABA. > > So, it works but it isn't really funny. But maybe i'm mistaken and there > is > an elegant solution for this kind of policy? > > best regards > Bernd > > -- > > -----Bernd Worsch-----------bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de-------- > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:08:14 +0100 > From: Bernd Worsch <bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de> > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Can one protect dtml from being rendered? > Reply-To: Bernd Worsch <bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de> > > Hi there! > > My final question for today: When i generate a new document A and > take the document content from some kind of template B, is there > a way to get some dtml in the document rendered and some inserted > directly? > > Suppose SomeVar holds 'SomeText' and AnotherVar holds 'AnotherText'. > > How do i protect AnotherVar so that > >  > <dtml-var SomeVar> > <dtml-var AnotherVar> >  > > becomes > >  > SomeText > <dtml-var AnotherVar> >  > > after insertion? > > Thanks > Bernd > > -- > > -----Bernd Worsch-----------bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de-------- > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:09:43 -0500 > From: "Darin Lee" <LEEDM(a)state.mi.us> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: [Zope] RE:ZCatalog update question > > Gari, > > You must call <dtml-call reindex_object> in any of your methods that = > operate on data (constructor, edit functions etc.) in order for the object > = > to be automatically updated in the ZCatalog. Simply inheriting ZCatalog as > = > a base class is not enough. > > Also, make sure when you are defining your base classes to include = > ZCatalogAware FIRST. > > Good luck, > -Darin > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> > To: "Daniel Rusch" <drusch(a)globalcrossing.com>, <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Can't get 2.3.1b2 sparc to run > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:58:10 -0500 > > Daniel, > > This looks like a splitter.c problem on Solaris. The same error doesn't > occur on Linux... give me a little bit of time and I'll try to track it > down. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Rusch" <drusch(a)globalcrossing.com> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:13 PM > Subject: [Zope] Can't get 2.3.1b2 sparc to run > > > > All, > > > > Any body have any ideas why I can't get 2.3.1b2 sparc to run. I download > > the tar ball, unzipped it, ran install, untar'd some products and ran > > start I get a bunch of error messages like below for each core product? > > > > ------ > > 2001-03-19T17:06:23 ERROR(200) Zope Couldn't install OFSP > > Traceback (innermost last): > > File > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line > > 627, in install_products > > (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) > > (Info: OFSP) > > File > > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/Products/OFSP/__init__.py, > > line 189, in initialize > > File > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/App/ProductContext.py, > > line 365, in registerHelp > > File > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/App/ProductContext.py, > > line 298, in registerHelpTopic > > File > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, > > line 300, in _setObject > > (Object: Traversable) > > File > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/HelpSys/HelpTopic.py, > > line 152, in manage_afterAdd > > (Object: HelpTopicBase) > > File > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/HelpSys/HelpTopic.py, > > line 165, in index_object > > (Object: HelpTopicBase) > > File > > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/ZCatalog > .p > y, > > line 424, in catalog_object > > (Object: Traversable) > > File > > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/Catalog. > py > , > > line 442, in catalogObject > > File > > > /home/Zope-2.3.1b2-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/SearchIndex/UnTextIndex.py > , > > line 335, in index_object > > SystemError: error return without exception set > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > From: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk> > To: "Bill Welch" <bill(a)carbonecho.com>, <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope security management > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:37:11 -0000 > > Bill, > > There is another answer to part 2, use javascript to create an md5 hash of > the user,somesecret,password. > > This can be sent instead of the password and then validated on the server > side, since the username and md5 hash is all that is sent across the wire, > it should be a lot more secure than plain text. > > I have a library for javascript md5 if anyone is interested (which,btw, I > 'stole' from the PHPlib ;) ). > > Phil > phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Welch" <bill(a)carbonecho.com> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope security management > > > > To achieve genuine security, you have to do something about the > 'password > > in the clear' problem. > > > > part 1) With basic auth (the zope default), the user's name and > password > > are sent in the clear with every request. > > > > part 2) With form based login (login manager, zmc), the user's name and > > password are sent in the clear when the login form is submitted. > > > > Solution: Have to go with form based login that uses ssl to send user's > > name and password. Unfortunately, in my experience, ssl support for zope > > is only thrid party (no offense to Mr. Siong or Mr. Bickers, thanks for > > your work so far) and hard to integrate, when this is really a core > > requirement. > > > > I think this is something that DC has to handle. > > > > Bill. > > > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Bernd Worsch wrote: > > > > > It's some time ago, the issue of denying roles showed up. > > > > > > I'd really wish to see this implemented, so has this problem > > > made it into the collector? (The feature index seems broken > > > to me at the moment) > > > > > > Thanks to John for pointing out what i thought :) > > > Bernd > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 10:00:13AM +0000, Chris Withers wrote: > > > > "John R. Daily" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That is precisely what is wrong with the model. To achieve > manageable > > > > > and genuine security, I want to acquire _all_ permissions and > > > > > specifically deny those roles to which the inherited permissions > may > > > > > not be correct. > > > > > > > > I'd agree with this, but I don't know how important it is. > > > > > > > > I'd suggest chucking it in the colelctor asa Featuer Request. > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > > (Related lists - > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -----Bernd Worsch-----------bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de-------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > (Related lists - > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > From: Dieter Maurer <dieter(a)handshake.de> > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:57:22 +0100 (CET) > To: Bernd Worsch <bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de> > Cc: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] why does manage_addDocument give me a method? > > Bernd Worsch writes: > > Another thing that seems strange to me: > > > > When calling > > > > <dtml-with SomeFolder> > > <dtml-call expr="manage_addDocument('SomeDocument','')"> > > </dtml-with> > > > > i get a dtml-method called SomeDocument instead of a dtml-document!! > > > > Is this behaviour ok? If yes how can i get documents? > See "OFS.Document".... It is depraceted. > > > > Dieter > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > From: Dieter Maurer <dieter(a)handshake.de> > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:49:43 +0100 (CET) > To: Chris Humphries <chumphries(a)siliconinc.net> > Cc: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] freebsd error > > Chris Humphries writes: > > i have python 1.5.2 (threads), freebsd, and zope installed (tryeed > > differenmt versions, so i know this is not an version issue). > > ... > > ImportError: > /usr/local/www/Zope-2.0.0b5/lib/python/ExtensionClass.so: > > Undefined symbol "PyMethod_Type" > I have seen this on the mailing list (--> searchable archives, Google). > The poster, apparently, found a solution.... > > > > Dieter > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > From: Dieter Maurer <dieter(a)handshake.de> > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:54:40 +0100 (CET) > To: Phill Hugo <phill(a)fortune-cookie.com> > Cc: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] ZClass direct variable access > > Phill Hugo writes: > > Is there a way to access property sheet variables from a zclass method > > without knowing which property sheet it is contained within. > If you only want to read them: > > they are exposed as attributes of the Z Instance, i.e. > you can use "getattr" to access them (as your property is > an expression). For constant access, you could use > the attribute access syntax. > > I do not know a way to change properties without the specification > on the property sheet. > > > Dieter > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > From: Dieter Maurer <dieter(a)handshake.de> > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:52:21 +0100 (CET) > To: Petr Knapek <knapek(a)knapek.pvt.net> > Cc: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] <dtml-sendmail> > > Petr Knapek writes: > > I have a list of user e-mail addresses which is created dynamically. I > > would like to use <dtml-sendmail> tag to send an e-mail at all > addresses > > in my dynamical list but do not know what the syntax of mailto > attribute > > in sendmail tag shoul be.=20=20 > Do not use the "mailto" attribute, use the > "To:" header in the send mail, similar to: > > <dtml-sendmail mailhost=...> > To: <dtml-var expr="_.string.join(address_list,',')"> > .... > > ATTENTION: This is indented only for readability. In your > DTML code, "To:" must start in the first column! > > > > Dieter > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > From: Dieter Maurer <dieter(a)handshake.de> > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:59:30 +0100 (CET) > To: frank.tegtmeyer(a)cia-mediahaus.de (Frank Tegtmeyer) > Cc: Dieter Maurer <dieter(a)handshake.de>, zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] dtml-sendmail and envelop sender [Q] > > Frank Tegtmeyer writes: > > > The Internet mail message specification (RFC 822) defined > > > a header to control error reports. > > > > That's wrong. Errors go to the envelope sender. There are > > many, many bad gateways that do it wrong but there number still > > doesn't make it right. > Quoted from RFC822: > > : 4.4.4. AUTOMATIC USE OF FROM / SENDER / REPLY-TO > : > : For systems which automatically generate address lists for > : replies to messages, the following recommendations are made: > : > : o The "Sender" field mailbox should be sent notices of > : any problems in transport or delivery of the original > : messages. If there is no "Sender" field, then the > : "From" field mailbox should be used. > : > > Dieter > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 16 > From: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca> > To: "'zope(a)zope.org'" <zope(a)zope.org> > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:16:41 -0500 > Subject: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > > Hi, > > This morning I installed a few upgrades to MS 98 (Internet Explorer 5.01 > Service Pack 1) and when I go to my Zope site I can no longer see the > management pages. The right frames are displayed and the navigation tree, > but instead of the management screen for a folder I get the view contents. > > Any Ideas? > > Mike Echlin CP/SA/CM > AECL Control and Operations Technology > echlinm(a)aecl.ca > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 17 > From: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk> > To: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca>, <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:23:20 -0000 > > Michael, > > see today's thread, > > [Zope] newbie zope question -- stuck in quick-start page > > and all will be revealed. > > Phil > phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:16 PM > Subject: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > > > > Hi, > > > > This morning I installed a few upgrades to MS 98 (Internet Explorer 5.01 > > Service Pack 1) and when I go to my Zope site I can no longer see the > > management pages. The right frames are displayed and the navigation > tree, > > but instead of the management screen for a folder I get the view > contents. > > > > Any Ideas? > > > > Mike Echlin CP/SA/CM > > AECL Control and Operations Technology > > echlinm(a)aecl.ca > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 18 > From: "Andy McKay" <andym(a)ActiveState.com> > To: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca>, <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:29:20 -0800 > > IE 5.01 doesnt render Zope Management Interface correctly, upgrade IE 5.5. > -- > Andy McKay. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:16 PM > Subject: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > > > > Hi, > > > > This morning I installed a few upgrades to MS 98 (Internet Explorer 5.01 > > Service Pack 1) and when I go to my Zope site I can no longer see the > > management pages. The right frames are displayed and the navigation > tree, > > but instead of the management screen for a folder I get the view > contents. > > > > Any Ideas? > > > > Mike Echlin CP/SA/CM > > AECL Control and Operations Technology > > echlinm(a)aecl.ca > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 19 > From: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca> > To: 'Phil Harris' <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk>, > "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca>, zope(a)zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:36:03 -0500 > > The weird part of all this that it worked just fine until I put in the > security patch. > When MS puts out a new security patch will they break the IE connection to > ZOPE again? > > Our shop is stuck, by official decree, to using IE but they haven't found > a > way to force us not to use Netscape on the Linux servers yet. (Possibly > because we haven't told them we are using Linux?) > > Thanks, I will have to upgrade to 5.5 and warn my Zope managers about this > problem. > > Mike. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Harris [mailto:phil.harris@zope.co.uk] > Sent: March 19, 2001 3:23 PM > To: Echlin, Michael; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management > interface. > > > Michael, > > see today's thread, > > [Zope] newbie zope question -- stuck in quick-start page > > and all will be revealed. > > Phil > phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:16 PM > Subject: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > > > > Hi, > > > > This morning I installed a few upgrades to MS 98 (Internet Explorer 5.01 > > Service Pack 1) and when I go to my Zope site I can no longer see the > > management pages. The right frames are displayed and the navigation > tree, > > but instead of the management screen for a folder I get the view > contents. > > > > Any Ideas? > > > > Mike Echlin CP/SA/CM > > AECL Control and Operations Technology > > echlinm(a)aecl.ca > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 20 > To: Federico Di Gregorio <fog(a)mixadlive.com> > cc: zope(a)zope.org > From: cg(a)cdegroot.com (Cees de Groot) > Reply-To: cg(a)cdegroot.com > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:37:00 +0100 > Subject: [Zope] (no subject) > > fog(a)mixadlive.com said: > > if you want to use the per-cursor commit extension of psycopg, you > > need to call the .commit() method on the *cursor*. calling it on the > > connection will commit on all the cursors derived from the connection. > > > > I know (I wrote ODBC drivers for a living, among others a PostgreSQL one > :-)). > I sorta expected the Z SQL Connection to do the "right thing", but it > forwards > the TM messages to the connection, not to individual cursors. > > > mmm... i think that zope instantiate a connection for every thread. in > > the psycopg case, every zope thread gets one connection and one > > cursor. > > Let's hope so, although I haven't been able to discern the code that does > that > bit of magic. Is there a document somewhere that describes what Zope does, > > thread-wise, when handling requests? > > Anyway, I plunged into my code and FYI, this is how I'm now dealing with > it: > > - select statements grab and release a cursor; > - update statements grab a cursor, wrap them in a TM subclass and register > the > result with the transaction manager. The cursor is also registered in a > thread > map, so that subsequent update statements in the same thread/transaction > reuse > the cursor. When the Zope TM calls finish()/abort(), the cursor is > committed > and released (and removed from the thread map). > - session access (updating the "last accessed" timestamp on mostly every > request) is done through a special global cursor, which does a commit > every 10 > or so updates keeping disk write load for this non-critical piece of > information low. > > The end result is acceptably low connection usage and correct transaction > scoping. > > Now I only have to find that (*&@#$ deadlock somewhere in my code ;-). > > > -- > Cees de Groot http://www.cdegroot.com <cg(a)cdegroot.com> > GnuPG 1024D/E0989E8B 0016 F679 F38D 5946 4ECD 1986 F303 937F E098 9E8B > -- > Cees de Groot http://www.cdegroot.com <cg(a)cdegroot.com> > GnuPG 1024D/E0989E8B 0016 F679 F38D 5946 4ECD 1986 F303 937F E098 9E8B > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 21 > From: "svedovelli" <spinwing(a)inwind.it> > To: "Oleg Broytmann" <phd(a)mail2.phd.pp.ru> > Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:35:56 +0100 > Subject: [Zope] R: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes > > Hello Oleg > > well, yes, but what if you are running a german installation and want to > provide, say, dutch localization? This is my very first try, also to see > if > people are interested. I am trying now to design a more flexible way to do > this, using a ZClass to determine the desired translation. > > I will post soon when I will have a proper solution > > Keep in touch > Ciao! > Stefano > > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Oleg Broytmann [mailto:phd@phd.pp.ru] > Inviato: lunedi 19 marzo 2001 10.38 > A: svedovelli > Cc: Zope Mailing List > Oggetto: Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes > > > Hi! > > Nice... > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, svedovelli wrote: > > French, but I plan in future to create a more sophisticated version > which > > will try to guess in which country the system is running in order to > return > > the proper translation. > > ...but why guess? Just use locale settings! > > Oleg. > ---- > Oleg Broytmann http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/ phd(a)phd.pp.ru > Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 22 > From: "svedovelli" <spinwing(a)inwind.it> > To: "Oleg Broytmann" <phd(a)mail2.phd.pp.ru>, > "Tino Wildenhain" <tino(a)wildenhain.de> > Cc: "Zope Mailing List" <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: R: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:36:05 +0100 > > Well, we can think about it in a second time....maybe we can find a > solution > as well. > > Stefano > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Oleg Broytmann [mailto:phd@phd.pp.ru] > Inviato: lunedi 19 marzo 2001 15.12 > A: Tino Wildenhain > Cc: svedovelli; Zope Mailing List > Oggetto: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes > > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > > the point IMHO is, the locales setting applies to the server system, > > where it is serving pages for a client system and its settings. > > E.g. I would not expect russian date in a italian document... > > But of course! And because of this I would do entire site in one > langauge and one locale. The problem with Zope is that it's multithreaded, > and can't switch locales on the fly :( > > Oleg. > ---- > Oleg Broytmann http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/ phd(a)phd.pp.ru > Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 23 > Reply-To: <sbabu(a)tnc.org> > From: "Satheesh Babu" <sbabu(a)tnc.org> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:37:09 -0500 > Subject: [Zope] Zope vs. other app servers. Any comparison available? > > Hi, > > We use Zope a lot. However, there are some schools of thought that since > MacroMedia has bought Allaire, it is going to be *the* web app development > platform (personally, I think you can't compare Cold Fusion to Zope). So, > are there any web sites that compare Zope vs. ASP, PHP, Cold Fusion, Java > app servers? > > If this is "suite" friendly, better! Even other wise, if you've any > pointers > to existing documents, that would be of great help. > > TIA > > V. Satheesh Babu > sbabu(a)tnc.org > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 24 > From: "svedovelli" <spinwing(a)inwind.it> > To: "Tino Wildenhain" <tino(a)wildenhain.de>, > "Oleg Broytmann" <phd(a)mail2.phd.pp.ru> > Cc: "Zope Mailing List" <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: R: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:36:04 +0100 > > Exactly... this is why this is a very first try, and I am relying also on > the comunity to see the impact of the modified class. The idea is to > expand > it so that the class is able to take the localized names from a ZClass > rather than determine the proper language from the system > > Ciao! > Stefano > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Tino Wildenhain [mailto:tino@wildenhain.de] > Inviato: domenica 18 marzo 2001 16.30 > A: Oleg Broytmann > Cc: svedovelli; Zope Mailing List > Oggetto: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes > > > Hi Oleg, svedovelli, > > the point IMHO is, the locales setting applies to the server system, > where it is serving pages for a client system and its settings. > E.g. I would not expect russian date in a italian document... > > Regards > Tino > > Oleg Broytmann wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > Nice... > > > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, svedovelli wrote: > > > French, but I plan in future to create a more sophisticated version > which > > > will try to guess in which country the system is running in order to > return > > > the proper translation. > > > > ...but why guess? Just use locale settings! > > > > Oleg. > > ---- > > Oleg Broytmann http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/ > phd(a)phd.pp.ru > > Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 25 > From: "svedovelli" <spinwing(a)inwind.it> > To: "Hannu Krosing" <hannu(a)tm.ee>, > "Oleg Broytmann" <phd(a)mail2.phd.pp.ru> > Cc: "Zope Mailing List" <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: R: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:36:01 +0100 > > This is one of the possible problems I am facing. The basic idea that I > would like to implement is: if the whole site is in a specific language, > then the designer should be able to provide the DateTime with the proper > translation. I am planning to use a ZClass to achieve this. > > Ciao! > Stefano > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: hannu(a)m72.tm.ee [mailto:hannu@m72.tm.ee]Per conto di Hannu Krosing > Inviato: lunedi 19 marzo 2001 10.47 > A: Oleg Broytmann > Cc: svedovelli; Zope Mailing List > Oggetto: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes > > > Oleg Broytmann wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > Nice... > > > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, svedovelli wrote: > > > French, but I plan in future to create a more sophisticated version > which > > > will try to guess in which country the system is running in order to > return > > > the proper translation. > > > > ...but why guess? Just use locale settings! > > How do you get locale settings from HTTP client ? > > ------------------- > Hannu > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 26 > From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> > To: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca>, > "'Phil Harris'" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk>, <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:07:07 -0500 > > Their security patch breaks the way basic auth works. I imagine it was > intentional until all their users started to scream... and then they > backed > off in IE 5.5. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca> > To: "'Phil Harris'" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk>; "Echlin, Michael" > <echlinm(a)aecl.ca>; <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:36 PM > Subject: RE: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > > > > The weird part of all this that it worked just fine until I put in the > > security patch. > > When MS puts out a new security patch will they break the IE connection > to > > ZOPE again? > > > > Our shop is stuck, by official decree, to using IE but they haven't > found > a > > way to force us not to use Netscape on the Linux servers yet. (Possibly > > because we haven't told them we are using Linux?) > > > > Thanks, I will have to upgrade to 5.5 and warn my Zope managers about > this > > problem. > > > > Mike. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phil Harris [mailto:phil.harris@zope.co.uk] > > Sent: March 19, 2001 3:23 PM > > To: Echlin, Michael; zope(a)zope.org > > Subject: Re: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management > > interface. > > > > > > Michael, > > > > see today's thread, > > > > [Zope] newbie zope question -- stuck in quick-start page > > > > and all will be revealed. > > > > Phil > > phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Echlin, Michael" <echlinm(a)aecl.ca> > > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:16 PM > > Subject: [Zope] MS Explorer no longer shows the management interface. > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > This morning I installed a few upgrades to MS 98 (Internet Explorer > 5.01 > > > Service Pack 1) and when I go to my Zope site I can no longer see the > > > management pages. The right frames are displayed and the navigation > tree, > > > but instead of the management screen for a folder I get the view > contents. > > > > > > Any Ideas? > > > > > > Mike Echlin CP/SA/CM > > > AECL Control and Operations Technology > > > echlinm(a)aecl.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > (Related lists - > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 27 > From: "Marc Fischer" <marcbpc(a)gmx.de> > To: "Darin Lee" <LEEDM(a)state.mi.us>, > <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: AW: [Zope] RE:ZCatalog update question > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:58:05 +0100 > > Thank you :-) > > That's it ... > I used the following syntax: > > <dtml-call "this().reindex_object()"> > > in every method I create or edit an instance. > > Marc > > > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > > Von: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]Im Auftrag von > > Darin Lee > > Gesendet: Montag, 19. Marz 2001 19:10 > > An: zope(a)zope.org > > Betreff: [Zope] RE:ZCatalog update question > > > > > > Gari, > > > > You must call <dtml-call reindex_object> in any of your methods > > that operate on data (constructor, edit functions etc.) in order > > for the object to be automatically updated in the ZCatalog. > > Simply inheriting ZCatalog as a base class is not enough. > > > > Also, make sure when you are defining your base classes to > > include ZCatalogAware FIRST. > > > > Good luck, > > -Darin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 28 > From: "Norman Khine" <khine(a)btinternet.com> > To: "Zope" <zope(a)zope.org> > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:24:17 -0000 > Subject: [Zope] DeprecationWarning > > I just like to say that I have configured Zope to run under FreeBSD 4.3 > with > Python 2.1b1 > > Zope Version Zope 2.3.1b2 (source release, python 1.5.2, linux2) > Python Version 2.1b1 (#1, Mar 15 2001, 23:29:56) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 > (release)] > System Platform freebsd4 > Process Id 189 (143436800) > Running For 2 min 58 sec > > Although when I get the following errors when starting the server: > > /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: DeprecationWarning: thee > import regex > /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the regsub > module > is) > DeprecationWarning) > /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: DeprecationWarning: the > regex me > import regex > /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the regsub > module > is) > DeprecationWarning) > > Any ideas > > Thanks > > Norman > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 29 > From: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk> > To: "Norman Khine" <khine(a)btinternet.com>, "Zope" <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] DeprecationWarning > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:18:30 -0000 > > You should read the Python docs about deprecated features. > > Basically the feature which is being warned about will be removeed in a > later version, this is just a warning to developers that this is the case. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Khine" <khine(a)btinternet.com> > To: "Zope" <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:24 PM > Subject: [Zope] DeprecationWarning > > > > I just like to say that I have configured Zope to run under FreeBSD 4.3 > with > > Python 2.1b1 > > > > Zope Version Zope 2.3.1b2 (source release, python 1.5.2, linux2) > > Python Version 2.1b1 (#1, Mar 15 2001, 23:29:56) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 > > (release)] > > System Platform freebsd4 > > Process Id 189 (143436800) > > Running For 2 min 58 sec > > > > Although when I get the following errors when starting the server: > > > > /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: DeprecationWarning: thee > > import regex > > /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the regsub > module > > is) > > DeprecationWarning) > > /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: DeprecationWarning: the > > regex me > > import regex > > /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the regsub > module > > is) > > DeprecationWarning) > > > > Any ideas > > > > Thanks > > > > Norman > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 30 > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:25:40 +0100 > From: Tino Wildenhain <tino(a)wildenhain.de> > To: Oleg Broytmann <phd(a)mail2.phd.pp.ru> > Cc: svedovelli <spinwing(a)inwind.it>, > Zope Mailing List <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] Localized DateTime classes > > Hi Oleg, > > Oleg Broytmann wrote: > > > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > > > the point IMHO is, the locales setting applies to the server system, > > > where it is serving pages for a client system and its settings. > > > E.g. I would not expect russian date in a italian document... > > > > But of course! And because of this I would do entire site in one > > langauge and one locale. The problem with Zope is that it's > multithreaded, > > and can't switch locales on the fly :( > > > sure it can :) We "only" need to replace all the locale aware methods > with language-negotiation aware methods. Additionally there is a need > for local override of this, meaning if one wants to mix variuos > languages > in one page, it should be possible to give an extra attribute to an > equivalent of the <dtml-var> tag or something like that. > > I'll make a proposal later this week as time allows > > Regards > Tino > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 31 > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:29:50 +0100 > From: Tino Wildenhain <tino(a)wildenhain.de> > To: "Farrell, Troy" <troy.farrell(a)wilcom.com> > Cc: 'Chris Withers' <chrisw(a)nipltd.com>, p.bizzarri(a)icube.it, > zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: ZopeMake 1.0 > > Hi Troy, > > "Farrell, Troy" wrote: > > > > Yes. ZopeMake uses ZClient to allow commandline scripting of imports > and > > exports, but cannot import .zexp files that are not on the file system. > > I've been thinking about 2 of Zope's "problems" (security features) > lately > > and I've almost hit some solutions. > > <Ask DC to turn a deaf ear> > > I wonder (I haven't looked) how difficult it would be to patch zope so > it > > can import .zexp files that are already in ZODB, so that I can > > manage_addFile a .zexp file and then manage_importObjectFromZODB. I was > > thinking about using LocalFS for this, but I don't think LFS is deployed > far > > and wide enough for this. Then again, if we get a solution for this, > more > > people might use LocalFS. I might try to write the code if it sounds > > doable. It might be nice. > > Its more easy to link /var to /import on filesystem :) > > Regards > Tino > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 32 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:21:27 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Zope] Can one protect dtml from being rendered? > From: Chris Muldrow <muldrow(a)mac.com> > To: Bernd Worsch <bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de>, <zope(a)zope.org> > > <dtml-var document_src> will return the unrendered source of a DTML > Document. I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for. (Since the tags > inside the unrendered source are still within <> tags, they wont show in a > browser. If you wanted them readable, you'd have to escape the html, I > guess) > Hope this helps. > Chris Muldrow > > > From: Bernd Worsch <bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de> > > Reply-To: Bernd Worsch <bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de> > > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:08:14 +0100 > > To: zope(a)zope.org > > Subject: [Zope] Can one protect dtml from being rendered? > > > > Hi there! > > > > My final question for today: When i generate a new document A and > > take the document content from some kind of template B, is there > > a way to get some dtml in the document rendered and some inserted > > directly? > > > > Suppose SomeVar holds 'SomeText' and AnotherVar holds 'AnotherText'. > > > > How do i protect AnotherVar so that > > > >  > > <dtml-var SomeVar> > > <dtml-var AnotherVar> > >  > > > > becomes > > > >  > > SomeText > > <dtml-var AnotherVar> > >  > > > > after insertion? > > > > Thanks > > Bernd > > > > -- > > > > -----Bernd Worsch-----------bernd.worsch(a)frontsite.de-------- > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 33 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:47:25 -0600 (CST) > From: Timothy Wilson <wilson(a)visi.com> > To: Zope listserv <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: [Zope] avoiding nested DTMLs > > Hi everyone, > > I'm trying to figure out how to do something here while avoiding nested > dtml > tags. Here's what I've got: > > I have a TinyTable containing two fields: "name" and "status". I have a > DTML > Document in the same folder as the TinyTable for each "name" in the > TinyTable. I want to display that DTML Document based on the value of > "status" in the TinyTable. > > Here's some code: > <dtml-in testTable> > <dtml-if "status <> ''"> > <<< insert DTML Document here >>> > </dtml-if> > </dtml-in> > > So in the code above I want to insert <dtml-var spam_html> (which is a > DTML > Document in the current folder), for example, if the TinyTable contains a > line that looks like: > > "spam_html", "X" > > I hope I'm making myself clear. Anyone have any ideas? > > -Tim > > -- > Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: > Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.k12.mn.us/ | http://www.zope.org/ > W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org/ > wilson(a)visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com/ > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 34 > From: "Anton A. Zotov" <futurb(a)nh.km.ua> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:06:45 +0200 > Organization: Xception > Subject: [Zope] Getting Errors trying to map permissions in Zope 2.3.0 for > win32 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0B0E2.6A500360 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="koi8-r" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I'm getting permanent errors trying to map permissions in Zope product > created by myself. > I seem to do everything right. Could anybody tell me how to avoid the > problem ? > Please see Zope trace page attached. > Thx in advance, > Anton. > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0B0E2.6A500360 > Content-Type: text/html; > name="manage_setPermissionMapping[1].html" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="manage_setPermissionMapping[1].html" > > <html><head><title>This is top level admin's management interface = > class</title></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> > > > <table border=3D"0" width=3D"100%"> > <tr valign=3D"TOP"> > > <td width=3D"10%" align=3D"center"> > <img src=3D"http://localhost:8080/p_/ZButton" alt=3D"Zope"> > </td> > > <td width=3D"90%"> > <h2>Zope Error</h2> > Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. > =20 > > Error Type: TypeError > Error Value: too many arguments; expected 2, got = > 3 =20 > > =20 > <hr noshade> > =20 > Troubleshooting Suggestions > > <ul> > <li>The URL may be incorrect.</li> > <li>The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.</li> > <li>A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an = > error.</li> > </ul> > > For more detailed information about the error, please > refer to the HTML source for this page. > > > If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. > Thank you for your patience. > > </td></tr> > </table> > > > <a href=3D"http://www.zope.org/Credits" target=3D"_top"><img = > src=3D"http://localhost:8080/p_/ZopeButton" width=3D"115" height=3D"50" = > border=3D"0" alt=3D"Powered by Zope" /></a></body></html> > > <PRE> > Traceback (innermost last): > File C:\Workshop\xception\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 222, = > in publish_module > File C:\Workshop\xception\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 187, = > in publish > File C:\Workshop\xception\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 221, in = > zpublisher_exception_hook > (Object: Admin) > File C:\Workshop\xception\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 171, = > in publish > File C:\Workshop\xception\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 160, = > in mapply > (Object: manage_setPermissionMapping) > File C:\Workshop\xception\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 112, = > in call_object > (Object: manage_setPermissionMapping) > File = > C:\Workshop\xception\lib\python\AccessControl\PermissionMapping.py, line = > 150, in manage_setPermissionMapping > (Object: Admin) > TypeError: (see above) > > </PRE> > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0B0E2.6A500360-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 35 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:14:55 -0700 > From: Casey Duncan <cduncan(a)kaivo.com> > Organization: Kaivo, Inc. (www.kaivo.com) > To: Timothy Wilson <wilson(a)visi.com> > CC: Zope listserv <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] avoiding nested DTMLs > > Timothy Wilson wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm trying to figure out how to do something here while avoiding nested > dtml > > tags. Here's what I've got: > > > > I have a TinyTable containing two fields: "name" and "status". I have a > DTML > > Document in the same folder as the TinyTable for each "name" in the > > TinyTable. I want to display that DTML Document based on the value of > > "status" in the TinyTable. > > > > Here's some code: > > <dtml-in testTable> > > <dtml-if "status <> ''"> > > <<< insert DTML Document here >>> > > </dtml-if> > > </dtml-in> > > > > So in the code above I want to insert <dtml-var spam_html> (which is a > DTML > > Document in the current folder), for example, if the TinyTable contains > a > > line that looks like: > > > > "spam_html", "X" > > > > I hope I'm making myself clear. Anyone have any ideas? > > > > -Tim > > > > Possibly this (untested): > > <dtml-in testTable> > <dtml-if status> > <dtml-var expr="_[status]"> > </dtml-if> > </dtml-in> > > I don't see any way to safely avoid nesting the dtml-if tag, if status > might be empty. This is not anything I would consider a problem though. > > -- > | Casey Duncan > | Kaivo, Inc. > | cduncan(a)kaivo.com > `------------------> > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 36 > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:25:16 +1200 (NZST) > From: John Morton <jwm(a)plain.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope security management > To: Phil Harris <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk>, zope(a)zope.org > Reply-To: John Morton <jwm(a)plain.co.nz> > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:37:11 -0000 Phil Harris <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk> > wro= > te: > > > Bill, > >=20 > > There is another answer to part 2, use javascript to create an md5 hash > o= > f > > the user,somesecret,password. > >=20 > > This can be sent instead of the password and then validated on the > server > > side, since the username and md5 hash is all that is sent across the > wire= > , > > it should be a lot more secure than plain text. > >=20 > > I have a library for javascript md5 if anyone is interested (which,btw, > I > > 'stole' from the PHPlib ;) ). > > This method, as described, will not protect you from traffic sniffing at > all. Where the attacker was sniffing for username and password > combinations being submitted to the login page, they now sniff for an MD5 > sum that will do the same job. Once in, the attack probably won't have too > many problems changing the password to something they know.=20 > > What it comes down to, is that any regular form based (initial) > authentication scheme will involve sending authenication data using a > known, and necessarily publicly accessable formulation (the login form) to > a known and public URL that will decide whether to authenticate the user > or not. As a result, an attacker can trivially find out what an > authenication token should look like, and extract them at their leisure. > > You could probably transform the simple passive sniffing attack to a more > complex man-in-the-middle attack by including a unique id for each login > form hit and only accepting authentication tokens with a given id once. An > attacker would need to intercept the authentication token and use it > instead of the user in order to gain access. Coupled with short timeouts > on the live ids, and a policy that users can only be logged in once, and > you'll have tighter security than a plaintext password system - but it's > still nowhere near as good as using SSL so that authentication tokens > cannot be distinguished from any other traffic in the stream. > > John > > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 37 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:26:11 -0600 (CST) > From: Timothy Wilson <wilson(a)visi.com> > To: Casey Duncan <cduncan(a)kaivo.com> > Cc: Zope listserv <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] avoiding nested DTMLs > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Casey Duncan wrote: > > > Possibly this (untested): > > > > <dtml-in testTable> > > <dtml-if status> > > <dtml-var expr="_[status]"> > > </dtml-if> > > </dtml-in> > > > > I don't see any way to safely avoid nesting the dtml-if tag, if status > > might be empty. This is not anything I would consider a problem though. > > Cool. That worked. I need to read up on that _[] stuff. Thanks. > > -Tim > > -- > Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: > Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.k12.mn.us/ | http://www.zope.org/ > W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org/ > wilson(a)visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com/ > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 38 > From: David McCuskey <david.mccuskey(a)bigfoot.com> > To: Zope Mailing List <zope(a)zope.org>, Chris Muldrow <muldrow(a)mac.com>, > Lee > Marzke <lmarzke(a)kns.com> > Subject: Re(2): [Zope] Zope hosting > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:33:29 -0800 > > On 03/19/01, Kit enlightened me with: > > >Not at all too good to be true. I use Hurrah for one of my sites. They > are > >fast, prompt, helpful, and knowledgeable about Zope. I think they are the > >best deal running in Zope hosting at this time. > >-- > >Kit O'Connell > >Zope Administrator > > i second that. > > the 100Mb and 3Gb of bandwidth makes the deal very attractive. you have > full rights over your own zope instance and can install any package you > want. plus you get all of the regular UNIX access, etc. > > the only gripe i have is that i can't FTP to my zope instance for editing. > > david > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Lee Marzke [mailto:lmarzke@kns.com] > >Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 6:43 PM > >To: zope(a)zope.org > >Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope hosting > > > > > >Anyone have experience with > > http://www.hurrah.com/ ? > > > >The advertise a virtual Zope account with PostgreSQL or MySQL > >for $25/mo. Sounds to good to be true. > > > >Lee > > > > > >On 16-Mar-01 Jake Berglund wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> You can find a list of lots of zope hosting providers here: > >> > >> http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZSP > >> > > > > -- > David McCuskey > david.mccuskey(a)bigfoot.com > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 39 > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:36:28 +1200 (NZST) > From: John Morton <jwm(a)plain.co.nz> > To: zope <zope(a)zope.org> > Reply-To: John Morton <jwm(a)plain.co.nz> > Subject: [Zope] More ZClass oddities > > I'm experiencing a few problems with some ZClasses and catalogs under > 2.2.5 - they look like bugs, but they could be a result of a clue shortage > on my part.=20 > > The first one relates to a ZClass that uses Object manager as a base > class. When instances are created, a ZCatalog is automatically added > (cusiously, I don't need to specify that ZCatalogs can be subobjects for > this to occur). As I'm in the development stages, I let Z Seach Interfaces > be subobjects of my ZClass but when it comes to adding a serach interface > instance, the automatically created catalog isn't listed as a searchable > object - and nor is any other catalog I add. > > The second problem relates to ZClasses created as a subobject of another > ZClass. This means that those items can only be created inside an instance > of the parent class (the desired effect), but it also seems to mean that > those object types don't show up in the type list of the 'Find Items To > Catalog' tab in the catalog in the same folder.=20 > > So... Bugs? Or is there something I don't know? > > John > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 40 > From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian(a)digicool.com> > To: <luke(a)seeTO.com>, <zope(a)zope.org> > Cc: <brian(a)digicool.com> > Subject: RE: [Zope] Installation Probs > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:07:14 -0500 > > > > Actually, that's what happens on my Windows Zope as well. > > > Can you try another machine? > > > > I had that happen when I was trying the 2.3.0 betas. > > The Win32 Zope installation creates some Registry entries. > > One of the entries points at the location of the service code. > > If you uninstall Zope it does not remove those entries from the > registry. > > If you later install another version of Zope in a different > > directory, Zope will fail silently trying to start the service. > > > > how to fix? > > edit the registry and remove the offending references. > > Install Zope again, and all will be sweetness and light. > > Bleah. The problem is that ZService.py does its own > registry fiddling that is not known to the WISE installer, > so it can't clean it up correctly (PythonService.exe also > does some fiddling, but I don't think that affects this). > > I've done some investigating and I've found a way to make > WISE invoke ZService.py remove (to clean up) on uninstall. > This will be included in 2.3.1 b3. Note that for those who > do not have Zope running as a service, it currently shows > a quick error message in a dos box at uninstall time (though > the error doesn't hurt anything). Tomorrow I'll take a look > at the ZService.py and see if there is a way to shut that > up. > > > Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com > Software Engineer 540.371.6909 > Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 41 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:51:33 -0500 (EST) > From: <ghaley(a)mail.venaca.com> > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] ZMySQL Database connection trouble > > hi, > > I am trying to add a ZMySQL database connection. Everything seems to go > ok, but when I try to view the Products Management, it shows the ZMySQL as > a broken product, when I view it, there is an error that says: > > ImportError: /usr/lib/python1.5/site-package/MySQLmodule.so: undefined > symbol: uncompress > > If I try to go the the /opt/zope/lib ,etc. directory and start the db.py > connection directly, python db.py, i get the same error. > > If someone could provide some direction on how to recompile the .so file > so that it can handle the uncompress problem, I would be most grateful. > > btw, i've read the various howtos on the zope.org site, and i didn't find > this particular problem there. > > I am running MySQL 3.23, the most recent release of zope, on linux 2.2 > running slackware 7.0 > > Many thanks. > > ciao! > greg. > > Gregory Haley > DBA/Web Programmer > Venaca, LLC > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 42 > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:34:39 +0300 (EAT) > From: Patrick <patrick(a)eahd.or.ug> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: [Zope] some confusion on ftp security. > > I was just wondering if there is a separate config file for the Medusa FTP > server because it alows anonymous logins even when I have used the zope > management interface to create a user say fgh who has the rights that > would usually be given to the anonymous group. I even defined a matching > group fgh and removed all rights from the anonymous group. > The advantage is that the user can not see list or download any > files but I was just suggesting that the user does not get a login prompt > at all in the first place incase this user manages to find some way of > exploiting the system.... (or have I missed something) > > > Thanks. > Patrick > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 43 > From: Dennis Pabalan <demic.pabalan(a)q-linux.com> > To: zope(a)zope.org > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:27:33 +0800 > Subject: [Zope] newbie > > Hi there guys!! > > I am a newbie and I just finished a zope tutorial " elvis"? I want to > place it > as a webpage (i want others to see it) how will I transfer the files? and > in > what directory? > I also want to add admin users to my management page :) > > Sorry for that newbie question :) > > > -- > > "think like a beginner, not an expert" > > .--. Demic Pabalan mobile://+63.917.345.1692 > ( () ) Q Linux Solutions, Inc. office://+63.2.894.3592/ > `--\\ A Philippine Open Source Solutions Co. http://www.q-linux.com/ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 44 > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:07:29 -0300 > From: Luciano Ramalho <luciano(a)hiper.com.br> > To: Timothy Wilson <wilson(a)visi.com> > CC: Casey Duncan <cduncan(a)kaivo.com>, Zope listserv <zope(a)zope.org> > Subject: Re: [Zope] avoiding nested DTMLs > > Timothy Wilson wrote: > > Cool. That worked. I need to read up on that _[] stuff. Thanks. > > Knowing Python really helps in decrypting _['x']. > > First of all, _ is just a valid, albeit weird, variable name in Python. > _ does not have any special powers in Python (as $_ has in Perl). > > The syntax y['x'] means: fetch item 'x' from dictionary y. y is not a > real dictionary, but rather an object that behaves mostly like a > dicionary. So _['x'] just means, fetch item 'x' from the namespace. In a > dicionary, whatever goes inside the [] is called a "key". Now, what > happens if I write y[x] and not y['x']? That is an indirection, is is > discussed a few paragraphs below. > > Now, although _ would be just a regular variable name in Python, in DTML > expressions it always refers to the namespace object which, like I said, > is not really an object but just pretends to be one. The symbol for the > namespace object could be 'namespace', 'super_dict', or '_ground'. But > it was called '_'. Zopistas I've met pronounce _ as "under" or > "namespace", depending on how formal they are. > > Like a dicionary, _ has a has_key method, which you call like this: > "_.has_key('x')". Unlike a regular dictionary, it gives you access to > dozens of Python functions such as int "_.int(x)", and whole modules > such as string, DateTime and random: "_.random.randint(x,y)". On the > other hand, _ does not have some usual dicionary methods, like keys() or > items(), which are useful to retrieve the entire contents of a > dictionary. > > WHAT _['x'] REALLY DOES > > The strangest thing about _ is that when you access something in it, > like _['x'], it doesn't just fetch the x object for you. Whenever _ > retrives an object, it checks whether the object is callable (most > things are callable objects in Zope). If the object is callable, _ calls > or invokes it, which means the object is executed as code, and then what > you get is not the object, but the result of executing it, whis is > normally a string containing HTML. This is the same behaviour of the > dtml-var "name" attribute. So: > > (1) <dtml-var name="x"> > > gives the same result as > > (2) <dtml-var expr="_['x']"> > > but is not the same as > > (3) <dtml-var expr="x">. > > For instance, if x is a DTML Method, (1) and (2) execute, or render it, > replacing DTML tags within x by their results, and returning plain HTML. > Then if you want to access some z attribute of x, you get the dreadful > "String object has no attribute z", which tells you that x is no longer > a rich object like a folder or a document, but is now a flat string > containing the HTML resulting from rendering the x object. > > With syntax (3) you just fetch it, which depending on context would > display the unrendered DTML code. > > If you need to indirectly fetch an object without executing it, you have > to use another of _'s methods, getitem. The expression "_.getitem('x')" > returns a reference to the object called x, without invoking it. > > INDIRECTION > > Notice difference between: > > (2) <dtml-var expr="_['x']"> > > (4) <dtml-var expr="_[x]"> > > These mean COMPLETELY DIFFERENT things. In (2) you want to get the > object called 'x' from the namespace dictionary. The key you are using > is the string 'x'. > > In (4), you are getting the object whose name is stored in variable x. > The key, in this case, is whatever is referred by the variable x. If x > refers to the string 'ni', then _[x] means _['ni'], that is, fetch the > object called 'ni'. > > That is why _[x] is called an indirection: in our example you are not > fetching 'ni' directly, but indirectly through the x variable. The next > time _[x] is evaluated, x may refer to 'sikander', and then _[x] may > yield a totally different result. > > The same rationale goes for > > (5) <dtml-var expr="_.getitem('x')"> > > (6) <dtml-var expr="_.getitem(x)"> > > The result of (5) is the same as > > (3) <dtml-var expr="x"> > > so you would never use (5) in real code. > > But (6) is useful to fetch an object indirectly without executing it. > > > AN INTERESTING EXPERIMENT > > Try this: within a folder, create two methods with ids 'method1' and > 'method2'. Leave 'method2' with its default content, but replace the > content of 'method1' with this, then View it. > > <dtml-var standard_html_header> > > <dtml-var name="method2"> > <hr> > <dtml-var expr="method2"> > <hr> > <dtml-var expr="_['method2']"> > <hr> > <dtml-var expr="_.getitem('method2')"> > > <dtml-var standard_html_footer> > > If my explanations were any good, you should understand what is going on > now. > > The whole _ issue is why, whenever I teach Zope, I include at least one > hour of "instrumental Python". > And while playing with the Python interpreter, I always make the > students create and do lots of operations with a dictionary called _. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Luciano > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 45 > From: "Andrei Cenja" <cnj(a)finsiel.ro> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:29:57 +0200 > Subject: [Zope] Large File Support ?! > > OK, I'm sorry if this question is gonna prompt bursts of laughter, but > here > it goes :-) > > If I intend to store many files (and large ones, too) into Zope (on RHL7, > BTW) - something close to a few GBs, it would mean that Zope's database > will > get to be one several-gigs-large file. Someone warned me of possible > problems if using very large files under linux. The question is: was he > right ? How does Zope cope with that ? > > Thanks ! > > Andrei Cenja, Bucharest, Romania. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 46 > To: Dieter Maurer <dieter(a)handshake.de> > Cc: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] <dtml-sendmail> > From: Petr Knapek <knapek(a)knapek.pvt.net> > Date: 20 Mar 2001 10:01:23 +0100 > > >>>>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:52:21 +0100 (CET), Dieter Maurer <dieter@h= > andshake.de> said: > > Hi, > > DM> Petr Knapek writes: > >> I have a list of user e-mail addresses which is created > >> dynamically. I would like to use <dtml-sendmail> tag to send an > >> e-mail at all addresses in my dynamical list but do not know what > >> the syntax of mailto attribute in sendmail tag shoul be.=3D20=3D= > 20 > DM> Do not use the "mailto" attribute, use the "To:" header in the > DM> send mail, similar to: > > DM> <dtml-sendmail mailhost=3D...> To: <dtml-var > DM> expr=3D"_.string.join(address_list,',')"> .... > > I think this should be better: > <dtml-var expr=3D"_.string.join(address_list, ',\n ')"> .... > > DM> ATTENTION: This is indented only for readability. In your DTML > DM> code, "To:" must start in the first column! > > I have resolved my problem just few minutes after sending e-mail. > Again, thank you very much for help, ideas etc. > > DM> Dieter > > Petr > > --=20 > Petr Kn=E1pek > NEXTRA Czech Republic, s.r.o., Hlinky 114, 603 00 Brno, Czech Republic > e-mail: mailto:petr.knapek@nextra.cz > tel:+420-5-43 554 150 > FAX:+420-5-43 554 214 > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > > End of Zope Digest

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Stability + Massive Traffic
by Alexander DePauli 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

Hi all, I'm wondering about the traffic limits of a one server-based ZOPE + MYSQL-System: Does anybody of you guys have experience with the behaviour + stability of such a system with about 200.000 pageviews or about 20.000 visitors per day? Does anybody know a method of "stress-testing" such a system, perhaps via a open source or shareware traffictesting software? Any answers highly appreciated - thank you! Alex ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.herrenausstatter.de - Der Online-Herrenausstatter Kostenlose Serviceline: 0800 -999 66 33 Versandkostenfreie Lieferung - 30 Tage R�ckgaberecht ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verwaltungsadresse: DePauli.com Aktiengesellschaft Stahlgruberring 3 - 81829 M�nchen Telefon: 089 / 530 75 170 - Telefax 089 / 514 50 666

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[Fwd: [Zope] Newbee problem]
by egbertei 20 Mar '01

20 Mar '01

I have tried http://localhost:8080, of course. The message I got was "Can not connect to host localhost". I have also run ps aux | grep zope to determine whether zope is running. It is. Any idea of what I can do to log in?

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