May 2001 - Zope - Zope lists

Localhost Zope ignoring new username/pwd
by Kirby Urner 22 May '01

22 May '01

Using localhost Zope on WinME: Forgot my username/password, so I followed instructions to run zpasswd.py in a DOS box. Gave inituser as filename to store info, and gave new username/password at prompts. inituser now exists in the same subdirectory as zpasswd. But on booting Zope, it pays no attention to the new info and still won't let me in. Help? Kirby

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Q: Verifying the poll numbers
by Paul Everitt 22 May '01

22 May '01

Howdy folks. AndyM is running a poll over at ZopeZen: http://www.zopezen.org/ (Look at the bottom of the left margin) < spoiler warning> Before reading the rest of this message, please vote. I don't want to bias your response. And don't peek at the results before you vote! </spoiler warning> OK, on to the discussion. Are those numbers *really* accurate? I gotta admit, though I've had a soft spot in my heart for the Zope Studio thing, I'm stunned that it would be in front. Much less so *far* in front. Are these results an accurate reading of the sentiments -- that given the list of choices Andy presented, a Zope Studio is so much more popular than those choices!?! Wow. Let's try a different tack. Pretend there was a for-free Zope Studio and a for-fee Zope Studio. Let's say the difference was either like ActiveState's difference (personal use vs. professional use), or say the difference was in "Professional" capabilities. Does anyone think there would be any moderate-sized market for a for-fee version? How many of you would pay a few hundred bucks for a high-quality dev/authoring/admin environment for Zope? --Paul

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Zope on Windows2000
by Antwan Reijnen 22 May '01

22 May '01

Hi all, how does Zope work on Windows2000? Due to sudden "political and strategical" reasons, the operating system of choise for a large worldwide community site will be windows2000... (Microsoft visited some high governement official lately...) However, an existing website already exists, and is build in Zope... Now we have to choose for reimplementing the entire site using all Microsoft technology, or installing Zope on a Windows2000 server. Of course, I don't want Zope to blame, when the server goes down because of windows or has some windows-related securityholes in it... What is your experience with Zope on Windows2000? Some background: the site I am talking about is likely to be hacked by war-criminals... It is going to be the worldwide website for Sercurity, Peace and Justice (seated in and hosted by "Den Hague, Legal Capital") Some events in the past, where war-criminals hacked sites which contained the "wrong" publicity material makes me believe that... Furthermore, the site will be very large in terms of all kind of content, delivered by many participants. It is believed, and the intention that the site will serve many visitors from all around the world... So: what should I do? Rely on all-microsoft technology, run Zope on Windows2000, or forget about Zope in the first place for such a tricky project ? I apreciate any thoughts on this... Thanks a lot! Greetings, Antwan.

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Changing Admin Password in Zope 2.3+
by Jason Joy 22 May '01

22 May '01

Hello, I know this is probably a silly question, but I can't quite seem to find a FAQ or a entry in a FAQ about how to change the Administrative Password after the installation fact in Windows. Can someone please point me in the right direction as to how to do this? Jason ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

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displaying dates in European format
by Sandy Britain 22 May '01

22 May '01

At the risk of getting an RTFM response, does anyone know how to display dates in European format i.e. DD/MM/YYYY? cheers Sandy.

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Kebas Data refresh problem
by Marcus Schopen 22 May '01

22 May '01

Hi there, have a problem with refreshing time. I set it to 3600, but after an hour nothing has changed. ZOPE did not build up a connection to the remote site to grab the new data. Thank you Marcus _______________________________________ (0> Marcus Schopen //\ Bielefeld, Germany V_/_ _______________________________________ Live as variously as possible

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bizzarre management behaviour: can't edit ZClass methods
by Darran Edmundson 22 May '01

22 May '01

I've encountered a bizarre error. I was editing my site from home this morning without problem. Here at work, however, I'm getting key errors for *all* manage_workspace links on DTML methods in my Products hierarchy. (I.e., imagine creating a ZClass and then trying to edit the index_html method, only to get a KeyError on some property this definitely exists in a property sheet.) Note, I'm just trying to display the DTML source code, not have Zope interpret it. It's as if manage_workspace is showing the wrong view, trying to render the DTML rather than show the method source. Here's an example traceback: Error Type: KeyError Error Value: FirstName Traceback (innermost last): File /opt/zope/Zope-2.3.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 223, in publish_module File /opt/zope/Zope-2.3.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /opt/zope/Zope-2.3.1/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: Traversable) File /opt/zope/Zope-2.3.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /opt/zope/Zope-2.3.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: link) File /opt/zope/Zope-2.3.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: link) File /opt/zope/Zope-2.3.1/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 189, in __call__ (Object: link) File /opt/zope/Zope-2.3.1/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 538, in __call__ (Object: link) KeyError: (see above) I won't know until this evening if my home machine is now displaying the same behaviour - or if it's something wrong with IE5 under Win2000. Any ideas? Cheers, Darran.

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RE: [Zope] Prerequisites for a desktop IDE, or any desktop app w/ Zope
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 22 May '01

22 May '01

I agree on the 'view' concept for classes versus the traditional UML / IDE integration concepts... Implementing a ZEO client core for a front-end GUI toolkit does make more sense; it would perform better, have full access to the server, and still be relatively x-platform (Win/Unix/MacOSX). I still have some questions: - Wouldn't there be an advantage to having software products be installed on the server (instead of a really FAT client)? - By going the ZEO client route, don't you lose a lot of the things you would get with Zope like the security model? Or would this be different? - The level of complexity there to develop such a thing grows quite a bit, though, especially for those of us who remain ignorant (and perhaps a bit fearful ;) ) of what is really running underneath the hood when it comes to the ODB and ZEO... XMLRPC has both the advantage and disadvantage of simplicity, for whatever that is worth... Sean -----Original Message----- From: Michel Pelletier [mailto:michel@digicool.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:53 PM To: sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com Cc: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Prerequisites for a desktop IDE, or any desktop app w/ Zope On Mon, 21 May 2001 sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com wrote: > 4. I'm not sure I would pay for an IDE versus using traditional tools, but I > WOULD PAY FOR CASE TOOL INTEGRATION. I want forward/reverse engineering > from UML; this would require the ability to have the CASE tool plugin I'm not sure how important a J-together like IDE would pay off in this respect, but I would love to see a UML-ish like visualization tool that is totally isomorphic to python. The object's under the hood are all python, the visualization is just a 'view', no need to go back and forth. Changing the code or run time object model changes the visualization immediately. > Zope, via XML-RPC, could be a very good platform for creating an extensible > toolkit for desktop access to Zope, wrapping XML-RPC calls to Zope machinery > to do certain tasks. XMLRPC could do this, but I'm afraid it would be seriously limited. XMLRPC is very useful, but it does not map as well as it could onto the python object model. I would prefer to see a GUI client running in the same process space as a ZEO client, this way the GUI client could do everything that Zope could do and re-use alot of the existing interfaces (like security, acquisition, script objects, etc). The upshot of xmlrpc is that you could write front-ends in various languages and platforms. > I'm currently doing a bit of playing around with wxPython, which reminds me > a lot of my days programming with the Borland OWL class libraries, so I > might be partial to such a solution using wxPython instead of tkinter (tcl > interpreter - blech! motif-style widgets - yuck!). An IDE built with a > decent (modern) widget set / UI class library, with extended toolkit > functions, like data-bound controls, might make for an interesting > user-extensible means of creating custom-tweaked IDEs, not to mention other > desktop software that accesses Zope... wxPython is indeed very cool. > In addition to an IDE, I want to be able to have some good guidelines and > documentation for standardized UML in Zope, so that when I share designs > with colleagues, I don't have to use a ridiculous amount of my own flavor of > stereotypes, just because I don't know any better. Once I have that, I want > CASE->CODE->CASE tools with an existing tool (even if it is a Visio > extension hacked with VBscript), blech. it would take you just as long to hack one up with xwPython and have a real object model underneath and it would be x-platform. -Michel

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simple DTML/namespace question: changing existing values in a method
by darran.edmundson＠anu.edu.au 21 May '01

21 May '01

Can someone offer a means of accomplishing the following: <dtml-var header> <dtml-var foo> <dtml-if condition> <dtml-call "_.namespace(foo='newvalue')"> </dtml-if> .. <dtml-var foo> .. <dtml-var footer> In this DTML method, if condition is true, I'd like to modify foo's value for the rest of the code that follows. Seems easy enough ... As always, any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Darran. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/

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Zope (ZCatalog) & international characters on Windows
by cj01＠poczta.onet.pl 21 May '01

21 May '01

Hi, All! I'm succesfully using Zope and ZCatalog with -L pl_PL option on RedHat Linux, but I have problem with Windows. If I know Windows (95,98,NT,2000) doesn't support locales (it have its own localization options). When I'm trying to use -L option on Windows (with Zope 2.3.0) it reports: ----------------------------------------------------- The specified locale is not supported by your system. See your operating system documentation for more information on locale support. ----------------------------------------------------- I need localization support in order to correctly catalog my Z Object's in Polish. Thanks, for any help. Cezary Jurach -- 26 maja - Dzien Matki. Wygraj kwiaty dla swojej Mamy! Do rozdania 75 bukietow z dostawa i zyczeniami. [ http://zakupy.onet.pl/prezenty.asp?k=7 ]

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