April 2005 - Zope - Zope lists

zope-2.8b1, zclass and five documentation
by Bakhtiar A Hamid 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

that's a mouthful subject :P i've downloaded and installed zope 2.8 b1. wondered whether zclass is still b0rked in zope2.8r1. nothing mentioned in the CHANGES.txt. probably is. created zclasses ok. however instantiating the zclass requires authentication that will never go thru. since zope2.8 comes with five, is there any documentation/tutorials on how to actually use it? i've looked at Five/docs/*txt and FiveDemo*. it seems that i may need to grok (or at least know *something* about) zope3 to actually use five. thanks for any urls/pointers/etc -- http://myzope.kedai.com.my - my-zope org

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Zeo
by ken wood 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

I've searched most site that have info on ZEO but have not been able to find answers to my questions on install for ZEO. Maybe someone on the list can help. I am running Zope 2.7 (with Plone site) on a Win'03 Server. I would like to run ZEO Server and Client on a Linux Server. The Linux Server also runs Zope 2.7 with a Plone site. Python version are 2.3.3. Is this a workable configuration ? Ultimate goal is to do away with the Win32 Server (at least for Zope). I have noticed that most documentation on ZEO is a bit dated (2003). Where can I get newer documentation or HowTo on ZEO? Thnaks in advance, ken wood

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Which sound I learn?
by Ryan Smiderle 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

I'm planning on making a website with Zope, and plan to do a lot of custumization. Should I learn Zope 2 or Zope 3? Thanks, -Ryan

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problem using ssl from zope
by Laura Skosnik 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

Hello, We are having a similiar problem, did you ever find a solution to this issue? When we test in the python console, the connection is fine. We get this error from python 2.3.5 when making secure socket connections from my mod_python based application. It is very odd because we cannot replicate this in the development environment, only in production on a cluster of 2 debian boxes with Apache2 MPM Worker w/ Mod Python 3.13. Does anybody have any ideas as to what could be causing this error? Here is the full traceback: Traceback: File "/home/orderform/www/cgi-bin/OrderForm_bundle/hwmodules/register/dp_registrar/DPRegistrar.py", line 95, in _ _execCmd con.endheaders() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 715, in endheaders self._send_output() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 600, in _send_output self.send(msg) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 567, in send self.connect() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 988, in connect ssl = socket.ssl(sock, self.key_file, self.cert_file) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 73, in ssl return _realssl(sock, keyfile, certfile) TypeError: ssl() argument 1 must be _socket.socket, not _socketobject The thing is that if we restart the web server, it works fine for about 20 minutes after which we start getting these errors. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Laura

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Mailboxer & subscription box
by Norbert M Haigermoser 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

hi ! i want to use (plone)Mailboxer as a newsletter system. is there a posibility to create a web-form to handle the un / subscription ? (like: Please enter your emailaddress here and press the send-button) thanks for help Norbert

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Re: How can I make class variables store in the zodb??
by Stephen How 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

I don't understand all the issues, but from an AT-user's point of view, it'd be very nice to have a fully supported dictionary and array field. I'm very interested in using the ATExtentions, but am wary of exposing myself to code that may not be future-proof. Practically speaking, is the risk low for using these ATExtensions? Thanks, Stephen On 2005-04-26 04:39:28 -0700, Raphael Ritz <r.ritz(a)biologie.hu-berlin.de> said: > Martin Aspeli wrote: >> >>> PS: Does anyone know how to move a project from >>> one svn repository (our own) to another one >>> (svn.plone.org) without loosing history? >>> Then I could move it there. >> >> >> Kapil probably does :) >> >> It would be nice if this went into archetypes/MoreFieldsAndWidgets for sure. > > The problem I have with 'MoreFieldsAndWidgets' is that it is > a collection of individual products, not just one product that > acts like a library. > > For the better or worse: I imported ATExtensions just a few minutes > ago into plone.org/svn/archetypes > > Of course I am aware that we have an even greater confusion now > when it comes to the question: I want to contribute a new field or > widget (or validator): how do I do that? Do I add this to AT, > to ATExtensions to MoreFieldsAndWidgets or do I make my own project? > > What I could imagine is that we have ATExtensions and > MoreFieldsAndWidgets in parallel and maybe even somehow > synchronized so that people have both options if that > seems desirable. > > I'm willing to maintain the library approach of ATExtensions > (i.e., provide guidance and support for contributions or > update and add stuff myself and to make sure that its at least > not broken to the extend that your Zope won't start and that > it can be installed - which can add - up I know) > >> >> How much do you care about history, though? I realise it's important, >> but if you're 98% sure you won't roll anything back, you can just make >> a copy in the new repo, and keep the old repo open for another six >> months or so but closed for new commits, just in case. Sometimes >> pragmatism is easier. :) > > That's exactly what I just did. > > Opinions on the above anyone? > > Raphael > >> >> Martin >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click

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Re: [Zope] Re: How can I make class variables store in the zodb??
by Hoang-Vu PHUNG 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

Try the command svnadmin dump/load. Regards --- Raphael Ritz <r.ritz(a)biologie.hu-berlin.de> wrote: > Stephen How wrote: > [...] > > Originally, I wanted to use a lot of class > variables, as this was my > > perspective from plain-old python. However, I've > learned that I really > > want to put everything possible into the schema, > as it makes the AT > > future proof, and more robust. It automatically > creates accessors and > > mutators for these fields as well, which is > preferred programming > > style. I typically just change the visibility > attributes of the field > > for privacy, and style in base_view. However, I > don't think there's a > > FieldType for a dictionary or array, so I use > plain-old class variables > > for them. > > > > There is the RecordField (for handling dicts) and > RecordsField (for handling lists of dicts) available > from ATExtensions > > > http://www.neuroinf.de/LabTools/ATExtensions-0_5.tgz > > Raphael > > PS: Does anyone know how to move a project from > one svn repository (our own) to another one > (svn.plone.org) without loosing history? > Then I could move it there. > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > __________________________________________________________________ Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo d'espace de stockage pour vos mails ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: How can I make class variables store in the zodb??
by Martin Aspeli 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

Hi, > The problem I have with 'MoreFieldsAndWidgets' is that it is > a collection of individual products, not just one product that > acts like a library. > > For the better or worse: I imported ATExtensions just a few minutes > ago into plone.org/svn/archetypes > > Of course I am aware that we have an even greater confusion now > when it comes to the question: I want to contribute a new field or > widget (or validator): how do I do that? Do I add this to AT, > to ATExtensions to MoreFieldsAndWidgets or do I make my own project? > > What I could imagine is that we have ATExtensions and > MoreFieldsAndWidgets in parallel and maybe even somehow > synchronized so that people have both options if that > seems desirable. I certainly don't think having things in two places will be helpful - people won't know where to go for updates, bug fixes or contributing, and things will end up out of sync very, very quickly. I don't quite see the benefit of amalgamating a losely related set of fields and widgets into a single product. Usually, you only want one or two of them, and downloading a couple of products is not all that hard. Having a single "library" makes sense when its contents are closely related, either in approach, functionality, maturity, quality control or importance. Trying to make a "one size fits all" product is imitating the problem Archetypes itself has been amassing for some time. Modularising will make the whole collection much more managable, imho, especially if the quality and maturity of various components will vary within the library. If there is a need for a single "libary", why not use svn bundles and tarballs thereof to collect a number of tried-and-tested products into a single download? Martin -- (muted)

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Re: [Zope] Wanted Support For "Communication Server" Works with/on Zope
by Lennart Regebro 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

> So, did you use or see that program which you can't remember. Nope. Then i would probably have remembered it's name... But you can find some of it here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=open+source+video+conferencin… Integrating this so you lauch the software via a Link in a zope server should be possible. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/

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How can I make class variables store in the zodb??
by Peter Millar 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

One thing we have noticed in our development of a plone archetype product is that archetype fields get stored in the zodb, whereas class variables do not (which is fine). Plone portal tools have their properties stored in the zodb. How do you get variables to store their data in the zodb?? If I wanted to store an archetype class variable to the zodb how could I do it . besides making it an archetype field?? ____________________________________________ Peter Millar Technical Project Manager Parasyn Controls Pty Ltd Peter.Millar(a)Parasyn.com.au T: 61 7 3396 6388 F: 61 7 3396 6299 45 Millenium Place, Tingalpa QLD 4173 PO Box 400 Cannon Hill QLD 4170 Australia www.parasyn.com.au <http://www.parasyn.com.au/>

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