July 2006 - Zope - Zope lists

Re: [Zope] Using property() function in Zope 2.8
by Fred Drake 06 Jul '06

06 Jul '06

On 7/6/06, Max M <maxm(a)mxm.dk> wrote: > There is a lot of things missing for brevity. It is an archetypes based > class, and all kinds of interesting stuff is happening in that stack. Ok, well, I don't know archetypes myself; hopefully someone with more specific knowledge of that can help. Specific code for the get/set/del functions is probably required, at least. > I tried to check that out. But then it says something like: > "_PropTest__mxm__ac_local_roles__ No such attribute" That suggests that there's metaclass stuff going on, or the specific code differs from the example shown in relevant details (or both). -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. <fdrake at gmail.com> "Every sin is the result of a collaboration." --Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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Zope installation woes
by russ 06 Jul '06

06 Jul '06

Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated. I'll see what I can find on the subject. R. -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan [mailto:dev101@magma.ca] Sent: 06 July 2006 13:08 To: russ; zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes ----- Original Message ----- From: "russ" <russ(a)russtik.co.uk> To: "'Sascha Welter'" <zopelist(a)betabug.ch>; <zope(a)zope.org> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:38 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes >I agree Sascha, I would prefer to much more grounded in the ways of the > command line before attempting this stuff. I'm trying to get this running > as I was hoping that it wouldn't be too involved and would be able to get > busy creating Plone sites. I don't have the luxury of time to learn more > about this in general beforehand and so made the decision to learn "on the > job" as it were. You may see this as foolish, and it probably is, but I > entered into this hoping that I wouldn't have to get my hands too dirty. > I > now find myself in uncharted territory, not wanting to turn back. > > So do you think I should throw in the towel now? If you only have one server available and if it is a production server, then you need to think about the ramifications of crashing that server. 'Production server' means different things to different organizations, and if no-one is going to be screaming at you if you kill the server then carry on! However, if your organization takes a dim view of production server downtime, then I would caution you against proceeding! You don't need to be a linux expert to install zope, but you do need at least a rudimentary understanding of how linux works and how some basic commands work. I would recommend spending some time reading the intro chapters of some linux documentation (you can find some at http://www.linux.org/docs/, and there is a good doc at: http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/rhel-rg-en-4/) - it may seem like a waste of time, but it will save you time and aggravation in the future. If you do not want to spend the time on linux/zope and you just want to 'get working', you could look at some of the zope hosting companies (they already have zope up and running, and they look after maintaining the 'infrastructure', which lets you focus on your application). Jonathan

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RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
by Sascha Welter 06 Jul '06

06 Jul '06

(Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 12:00:08PM -0400) zope-request(a)zope.org wrote/schrieb/egrapse: > From: "russ" <russ(a)russtik.co.uk> > Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes > Firstly I'll just mention a little bit more about the server. We have > cPanel and Apache running. There's a number of accounts setup in cPanel and It appears that this is a production server. ... Jonathan wrote: > If zope is not running try starting zope with the command: ./zopectl fg > this should allow you to see any errors that are generated while zope > tries to start up. good advice ... russ wrote: > I can't see anything relating to zope specifically & running the zopect1 > command results in this: > > root@server [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# > /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg > -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory ... later Jonathan replied: > Don't give up! And now my point: Jonathan, I disagree here. Russ, you are running a command you don't know about (and you don't even care enough to check the spelling) as *root* on a *production* server. Please notify the servers administrator and/or owner about this. You shouldn't be allowed near a root prompt. At least till you've done your homework to the extend that you pay attention before doing anything as root. Besides, nobody told you to do this as root. When giving commands as root, you can destroy everything that is on that server. For starters try it with `rm -rf /`. Why don't you try the installation first on a test machine or personal workstation? We all have to learn stuff first, but a production server isn't a learning environment. Nowadays it is *very* easy to get a Unix clone system to play around with. There is also documentation to be found about Zope and System Administration in general, for free on the Internet. [Stepping down from Soap Box] Have a nice day + Regards, Sascha

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RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
by russ 06 Jul '06

06 Jul '06

What does it mean if this is listed under ps -eLf: zope 15601 15600 15601 0 1 Jul05 ? 00:00:05 /usr/bin/python /usr/ ...but isn't anywhere to be seen under netstat -p ? & how do I telnet to port 8080 *on* the same machine? Sorry :S -----Original Message----- From: replies-lists-zope(a)listmail.innovate.net [mailto:replies-lists-zope@listmail.innovate.net] Sent: 05 July 2006 18:59 To: russ Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes use the "ps" command to see that that process is still running. also use the "netstat" command (with the -p flag (as root)) to see/confirm what port zope is listening on. if it's running, on port 8080, then try to telnet to port 8080, both as "localhost:8080" and "hostname:8080" (both from the server itself). if both of those work, then telnet to "hostname:8080" from a "remote" machine (e.g., the desktop machine you've been using yoru browser from). if the telnets from the server work, but the telnet from the "remote" host doesn't, then your issue is likely to be a firewall. ------------ Original Message ------------ > Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 06:24:40 PM +0100 > From: russ <russ(a)russtik.co.uk> > To: 'Jonathan' <dev101(a)magma.ca>, zope(a)zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes > > Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 > (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the > zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: > > bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start > . daemon process started, pid=15601 > > Aaaaand now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. > > :( > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan [mailto:dev101@magma.ca] > Sent: 05 July 2006 17:14 > To: russ; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "russ" <russ(a)russtik.co.uk> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:37 AM > Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes > > >> O.k. thanks, >> >> There are a number of lines like this: >> >> mailman 2485 2468 2485 0 1 Jun29 ? 00:00:00 >> /usr/bin/python2.4 /u >> >> ...and a few like this: >> >> root 12796 11967 12796 0 1 13:10 pts/1 00:00:00 >> /usr/bin/python /usr/ > > These are not zope entries, you are looking for something like: > > zope 3158 1 3158 0 1 07:52 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/local/bin/python > /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -S > /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/l > > zope 3159 3158 3159 0 5 07:52 ? 00:00:02 > /usr/local/bin/python > /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C > /apps/zope/etc/zope > > > >> I can't see anything relating to zope specifically & running the >> zopect1 command results in this: >> >> root@server [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# >> /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg >> -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or >> directory > > in your local zope/bin directory you should have some script files > like: runzope, runzope.bat and zopectl (this is what I have with zope > 2.9.2 installation) > > If you do not have these files, then something is truly pooched. > > Here are the steps I used to install zope 2.9.2 (linux os) > > 1) download zope 2.9.2 tarball into /usr/local/src (I used wget) > 2) tar -xzf the zope tarball (unpack it) > 3) change directory (cd) to the new zope subdirectory (created by the > tar command) > 4) make sure you have python 2.4.2 (this is for zope 2.9.2, check > what you need for zope 2.9.3). My python 2.4.2 is installed in > /usr/local/bin and this directory is contained with the PATH > environment variable (type echo $PATH at the command prompt - if the > directory containing your python 2.x is > > not in PATH you will need to modify PATH) > 5) at the command line enter: ./configure > 6) at the command line enter: make > 7) at the command line enter: make install (This will install zope > in /usr/local/zope-2.9.x) > > Now you need to add a 'zope' user to your system (if you do not > already have > > one) > 8) cd /etc > 9) groupadd zope (unless you already have a zope group defined) > 10) useradd -g zope zope (this creates a zope user) > 11) passwd zope (sets a password for the new user) > 12) usermod -d /apps/zope zope (sets the home directory for the new > user to /apps/zope) > > Now you need to create a zope instance: > > 13) change directory to /usr/local/zope-2.9.x/bin > 14) su zope (change to the zope user you created earlier) > 15) at the command line enter: /usr/local/bin/python > mkzopeinstance.py (note: replace /usr/local/bin/python with the > location of your python 2.4.x installation) > You will be prompted for a zope instance home (i use /apps/zope), a > username > > and a password (your zope admin account) > 16) change directory to the new zope instance home (eg. cd > /apps/zope) and you should see several subdirectories. > 17) check the ownership of the directories/files - they should all be > owned by zope and belong to the zope group. To change them enter: > chown zope * (changes ownership); chgrp zope * (changes group) > > Now you need to make a couple of small changes to the zope.conf file: > 18) cd /apps/zope/etc > 19) edit the zope.conf file (save a copy first!) and change > "debug-mode" to 'on' (optional) and change "effective-user" to 'zope' > > Now you need to start the zope instance: > 20) cd /apps/zope/bin > 21) ./zopectl start (or ./zopectl fg in case of errors during start > up) > > > HTH! > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ---------- End Original Message ----------

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Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
by Jonathan 05 Jul '06

05 Jul '06

Apache's default port is 80. Have you tried that? (i haven't kept the earlier part of this thread, and I can't remember what you have tried). Do you have a rewrite rule set up in apache? (something like: RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/$1 [P]) Don't give up! Once you have zoped you'll never go back ;-) Jonathan ----- Original Message ----- From: "russtik" <info(a)russtik.co.uk> To: "'Jonathan'" <dev101(a)magma.ca>; <zope(a)zope.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes > ps -eLf results show this: > > zope 15600 1 15600 0 1 18:14 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python > /usr/ > zope 15601 15600 15601 0 1 18:14 ? 00:00:05 /usr/bin/python > /usr/ > > I don't have physical access to the machine, so I don't know how to test > port 8080 on localhost. I can't find anything in netstat -p that looks > like > it would relate to Zope either. The zope.conf is set to use 8080. > > So... any more ideas guys? Even though Apache is running I should still > be > able to test Zope though surely? > > R. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan [mailto:dev101@magma.ca] > Sent: 05 July 2006 18:45 > To: russ; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "russ" <russ(a)russtik.co.uk> > To: "'Jonathan'" <dev101(a)magma.ca>; <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:24 PM > Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes > > >> Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 >> (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the >> zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: >> >> bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start >> . daemon process started, pid=15601 >> >> Aaaaand now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. > > That sounds like a good start! > > try ps -eLf at the command line, do you see the zope processes running? > > If your browser is running on the same machine try: http://localhost:8080 > > To see which ports zope is working with look at the file.../etc/zope.conf > and look for two things: (1) http-server and (2) port-base (the zope.conf > file contains comments which will tell you what you need to know). > > If you have apache running as a web server in front of zope you will need > to > > configure apache (you can find info here: > http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/Zope_and_Apache) > > Good luck! > > > Jonathan > > > > >> >> :( >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jonathan [mailto:dev101@magma.ca] >> Sent: 05 July 2006 17:14 >> To: russ; zope(a)zope.org >> Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "russ" <russ(a)russtik.co.uk> >> To: <zope(a)zope.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:37 AM >> Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes >> >> >>> O.k. thanks, >>> >>> There are a number of lines like this: >>> >>> mailman 2485 2468 2485 0 1 Jun29 ? 00:00:00 >>> /usr/bin/python2.4 /u >>> >>> ...and a few like this: >>> >>> root 12796 11967 12796 0 1 13:10 pts/1 00:00:00 >>> /usr/bin/python >>> /usr/ >> >> These are not zope entries, you are looking for something like: >> >> zope 3158 1 3158 0 1 07:52 ? 00:00:00 >> /usr/local/bin/python >> /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -S >> /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/l >> >> zope 3159 3158 3159 0 5 07:52 ? 00:00:02 >> /usr/local/bin/python >> /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C >> /apps/zope/etc/zope >> >> >> >>> I can't see anything relating to zope specifically & running the zopect1 >>> command results in this: >>> >>> root@server [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# >>> /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg >>> -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory >> >> in your local zope/bin directory you should have some script files like: >> runzope, runzope.bat and zopectl (this is what I have with zope 2.9.2 >> installation) >> >> If you do not have these files, then something is truly pooched. >> >> Here are the steps I used to install zope 2.9.2 (linux os) >> >> 1) download zope 2.9.2 tarball into /usr/local/src (I used wget) >> 2) tar -xzf the zope tarball (unpack it) >> 3) change directory (cd) to the new zope subdirectory (created by the tar >> command) >> 4) make sure you have python 2.4.2 (this is for zope 2.9.2, check what >> you >> need for zope 2.9.3). My python 2.4.2 is installed in /usr/local/bin and >> this directory is contained with the PATH environment variable (type echo >> $PATH at the command prompt - if the directory containing your python 2.x >> is >> >> not in PATH you will need to modify PATH) >> 5) at the command line enter: ./configure >> 6) at the command line enter: make >> 7) at the command line enter: make install (This will install zope in >> /usr/local/zope-2.9.x) >> >> Now you need to add a 'zope' user to your system (if you do not already >> have >> >> one) >> 8) cd /etc >> 9) groupadd zope (unless you already have a zope group defined) >> 10) useradd -g zope zope (this creates a zope user) >> 11) passwd zope (sets a password for the new user) >> 12) usermod -d /apps/zope zope (sets the home directory for the new user >> to >> /apps/zope) >> >> Now you need to create a zope instance: >> >> 13) change directory to /usr/local/zope-2.9.x/bin >> 14) su zope (change to the zope user you created earlier) >> 15) at the command line enter: /usr/local/bin/python mkzopeinstance.py >> (note: replace /usr/local/bin/python with the location of your python >> 2.4.x >> installation) >> You will be prompted for a zope instance home (i use /apps/zope), a >> username >> >> and a password (your zope admin account) >> 16) change directory to the new zope instance home (eg. cd /apps/zope) >> and >> you should see several subdirectories. >> 17) check the ownership of the directories/files - they should all be >> owned >> by zope and belong to the zope group. To change them enter: chown zope * >> (changes ownership); chgrp zope * (changes group) >> >> Now you need to make a couple of small changes to the zope.conf file: >> 18) cd /apps/zope/etc >> 19) edit the zope.conf file (save a copy first!) and change "debug-mode" >> to >> 'on' (optional) and change "effective-user" to 'zope' >> >> Now you need to start the zope instance: >> 20) cd /apps/zope/bin >> 21) ./zopectl start (or ./zopectl fg in case of errors during start up) >> >> >> HTH! >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >

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Serious security problem with Zope 2
by Jim Fulton 05 Jul '06

05 Jul '06

We have recently discovered that there are (still) very serious security problems with the integration of reStructured Text (docutils) into Zope 2. We have prepared a hot fix for this problem: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/Hotfix-2006-07-05/Hotfix-20060705/ See: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/Hotfix-2006-07-05/Hotfix-20060705/ README.txt for installation instructions. It is important to install this hotfix as soon as possible. This fix will disable the reStructuredText 'raw' directive. Much thanks goes to Tres Seaver for analyzing the problem and developing the hotfix! Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@zope.com Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org

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Using sendmail on FC5 with Zope 2.8.7
by Ignacio Valdes 05 Jul '06

05 Jul '06

Hi, I'm trying to get Mailhost to work on Fedora Core 5 with Zope 2.8.7. Sendmail is up and running on FC5, Mailhost is installed and set to localhost, port 25. However, nothing seems to happen when an e-mailable event occurs. I did not configure sendmail in anyway, it was the stock one on FC 5 install. I don't know where to begin as to how to get this to work. -- IV

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Help on installing ZFSPath / LocalFS
by insinjoori 05 Jul '06

05 Jul '06

Hi. I'm pretty much a newbie when it comes to using Zope. I'd like to install ZFSPath or LocalFS (something to get hands on to local files).. So, I've unpacked the files to Products dir. I'm supposed to create a ZFSPath object somewhere. How do I excactly do that? And, ultimately, how do I use ZFSPath once it's installed??? Sorry about this, I'm an ass.. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Help-on-installing-ZFSPath---LocalFS-tf1895239.html#a… Sent from the Zope - General forum at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
by Jonathan 05 Jul '06

05 Jul '06

----- Original Message ----- From: "russ" <russ(a)russtik.co.uk> To: "'Jonathan'" <dev101(a)magma.ca>; <zope(a)zope.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes > Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 > (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the > zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: > > bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start > . daemon process started, pid=15601 > > Aaaaand now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. That sounds like a good start! try ps -eLf at the command line, do you see the zope processes running? If your browser is running on the same machine try: http://localhost:8080 To see which ports zope is working with look at the file.../etc/zope.conf and look for two things: (1) http-server and (2) port-base (the zope.conf file contains comments which will tell you what you need to know). If you have apache running as a web server in front of zope you will need to configure apache (you can find info here: http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/Zope_and_Apache) Good luck! Jonathan > > :( > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan [mailto:dev101@magma.ca] > Sent: 05 July 2006 17:14 > To: russ; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "russ" <russ(a)russtik.co.uk> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:37 AM > Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes > > >> O.k. thanks, >> >> There are a number of lines like this: >> >> mailman 2485 2468 2485 0 1 Jun29 ? 00:00:00 >> /usr/bin/python2.4 /u >> >> ...and a few like this: >> >> root 12796 11967 12796 0 1 13:10 pts/1 00:00:00 >> /usr/bin/python >> /usr/ > > These are not zope entries, you are looking for something like: > > zope 3158 1 3158 0 1 07:52 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -S > /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/l > > zope 3159 3158 3159 0 5 07:52 ? 00:00:02 > /usr/local/bin/python > /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C > /apps/zope/etc/zope > > > >> I can't see anything relating to zope specifically & running the zopect1 >> command results in this: >> >> root@server [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# >> /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg >> -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory > > in your local zope/bin directory you should have some script files like: > runzope, runzope.bat and zopectl (this is what I have with zope 2.9.2 > installation) > > If you do not have these files, then something is truly pooched. > > Here are the steps I used to install zope 2.9.2 (linux os) > > 1) download zope 2.9.2 tarball into /usr/local/src (I used wget) > 2) tar -xzf the zope tarball (unpack it) > 3) change directory (cd) to the new zope subdirectory (created by the tar > command) > 4) make sure you have python 2.4.2 (this is for zope 2.9.2, check what you > need for zope 2.9.3). My python 2.4.2 is installed in /usr/local/bin and > this directory is contained with the PATH environment variable (type echo > $PATH at the command prompt - if the directory containing your python 2.x > is > > not in PATH you will need to modify PATH) > 5) at the command line enter: ./configure > 6) at the command line enter: make > 7) at the command line enter: make install (This will install zope in > /usr/local/zope-2.9.x) > > Now you need to add a 'zope' user to your system (if you do not already > have > > one) > 8) cd /etc > 9) groupadd zope (unless you already have a zope group defined) > 10) useradd -g zope zope (this creates a zope user) > 11) passwd zope (sets a password for the new user) > 12) usermod -d /apps/zope zope (sets the home directory for the new user > to > /apps/zope) > > Now you need to create a zope instance: > > 13) change directory to /usr/local/zope-2.9.x/bin > 14) su zope (change to the zope user you created earlier) > 15) at the command line enter: /usr/local/bin/python mkzopeinstance.py > (note: replace /usr/local/bin/python with the location of your python > 2.4.x > installation) > You will be prompted for a zope instance home (i use /apps/zope), a > username > > and a password (your zope admin account) > 16) change directory to the new zope instance home (eg. cd /apps/zope) and > you should see several subdirectories. > 17) check the ownership of the directories/files - they should all be > owned > by zope and belong to the zope group. To change them enter: chown zope * > (changes ownership); chgrp zope * (changes group) > > Now you need to make a couple of small changes to the zope.conf file: > 18) cd /apps/zope/etc > 19) edit the zope.conf file (save a copy first!) and change "debug-mode" > to > 'on' (optional) and change "effective-user" to 'zope' > > Now you need to start the zope instance: > 20) cd /apps/zope/bin > 21) ./zopectl start (or ./zopectl fg in case of errors during start up) > > > HTH! > > Jonathan > > > > > > > >

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RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
by russ 05 Jul '06

05 Jul '06

O.k. thanks, There are a number of lines like this: mailman 2485 2468 2485 0 1 Jun29 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /u ...and a few like this: root 12796 11967 12796 0 1 13:10 pts/1 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/ I can't see anything relating to zope specifically & running the zopect1 command results in this: root@server [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan [mailto:dev101@magma.ca] Sent: 05 July 2006 16:15 To: russ; zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes At the o/s command prompt, type: ps -eLf You should see a listing which contains some zope/python entries if zope is running. If zope is not running try starting zope with the command: ./zopectl fg this should allow you to see any errors that are generated while zope tries to start up. hth Jonathan

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