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zope2.6.0 start up question
by Ruslan Spivak 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hello zope users, After compiling zope 2.6.0 under RH7.2 and trying to start it up I get: 2002-09-18T11:46:41 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception Traceback (innermost last): Module __main__, line 770, in ? SystemExit: /usr/local/zope2.6.0/var does not have the sticky bit set; fix this to start as root What should I do? TIA Best regards, Ruslan mailto:alienoid@is.lg.ua

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Parameter passing
by Dag Nygren 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hi again, and thanks to Dieter for giving a pointer to his excellent chapter on parameters in Zope, this is what I wasmissing in the "Official" Zopebook. One question remains though: I got the impression that SUBMIT:ing a form will automatically pass on the variables used in the original form to the target item. However my experiments doesn't seem to do that. Is there another way of doing this than the URL?para=something ? I don't really want to show the internal parameters in the URL.... BRGDS -- Dag Nygren email: dag(a)newtech.fi Oy Espoon NewTech Ab phone: +358 9 8024910 Träsktorpet 3 fax: +358 9 8024916 02360 ESBO Mobile: +358 400 426312 FINLAND

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New server recommendations
by Howard Hansen 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Our web hosting company just went out of business. We have a server humming away with 249 days of uptime and counting. Unfortunately, the door to the office is locked, so we can't get it to our new hosting partner. The power and net connection are still on, so everything's fine for now, but I suspect we may need to get a new server very soon. We run Debian Linux and want a 1U server. Our current server is a 1GHz PIII with 512MB SDRAM & a pair of mirrored 40 GB drives. It's fast enough right now, but starting to slow down. >From recent discussions, it appears that Zope doesn't benefit much from a dual processor system, but it does benefit from higher clock rates and more RAM. So should I invest in a faster single-proc system with a couple of gigs of RAM, or go with a slower dual-proc box? Can I assume that raw pystone measurements will correlate well to Zope performance? Intel or AMD? I love building my own PCs from parts. Is this feasable for a 1U server? Thanks for your help! Howard Hansen http://howardsmusings.com

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RE: [Zope] Changing REQUEST in a javascript
by Passin,Thomas B. (Tom) 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

[ Dag Nygren] > > Tell us what you really want to accomplish and we will help > you work > > out how to do it. > > Yes, of course, sorry for the a bit naive question. I am new > to Zope and Phyton and had difficulties getting the right > picture in my mind about what is going on here. Additionally > the Zope way of "inheriting" the REQUEST object > confused me. > > The original problem was creating a mutiselect form where > select#1 changed the alternatives of Select#2. Usually people do this kind of thing using javascript in the browser. This reduces the number of queries to the server, and also improves the responsiveness of the page since the user does not have to wait for a response from the server when she changes something in a form. > I also did not want the URL to show the parameters. Then use the POST method in the form. Zope will treat a GET (the default) or POST the same way. Cheers, Tom P

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RE: [Zope] Re: Best Database in Zope
by Passin,Thomas B. (Tom) 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

[ lozinski(a)openstepnews.com] > > Is the ZODB, which makes zope objects persistent. > I have been thrilled with it. > > Why mess with a relational database, when you get a great > object database for free. > Because you get SQL and joins and relational integrity and query optimization. There is room for both. Cheers, Tom P

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RE: [Zope] Handling of objects returned from external methods within zope?
by Passin,Thomas B. (Tom) 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

[ DA Loeffler] > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Passin,Thomas B. (Tom) wrote: > > > External methods are functions, not methods. But if the function > > returns an object you should be able to use its methods. > > Actually you should not, because it might be insecure to > import untrusted objects. But you can declare objects to be > trustworthy. > Right, another subject but important to know about. > Try putting the line > __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1 in the class definition. > > (I have Casey Duncan to thank for suggesting this to me when > I faced the same problem some while ago.) >

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Re: [Zope] Changing REQUEST in a javascript
by Dag Nygren 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

> [om: Dag Nygren] > > > I now finally figured out the parameter-passing stuff > > and ran into a new problem: > > I need to change the REQUEST on the client, presumably > > in a javascript > > > > Can this be done and How ? > > > > There is no such thing. The browser client has form data that it > submits, and the Zope REQUEST object ends up containing the form data. > The client knows nothing about Zope objects. > > Tell us what you really want to accomplish and we will help you work out > how to do it. Yes, of course, sorry for the a bit naive question. I am new to Zope and Phyton and had difficulties getting the right picture in my mind about what is going on here. Additionally the Zope way of "inheriting" the REQUEST object confused me. The original problem was creating a mutiselect form where select#1 changed the alternatives of Select#2. I also did not want the URL to show the parameters. I now figured out that I can use an ONCHANGE=document.submit() for Select#1 to make the same formpage repeat itself with the changed Select#2 attributes. Additionally I think (haven't tested yet) that I can submit and alternative attribute in the "real" formsubmit and check for that with <dtml-if> in the form and then do the intended insert into a database. Please tell me if there is something fundamentally wrong with this way of thinking and if there are easier ways of doing this. Thanks for the answers so far, preserves my fate in the OpenSource community !! -- Dag Nygren email: dag(a)newtech.fi Oy Espoon NewTech Ab phone: +358 9 8024910 Träsktorpet 3 fax: +358 9 8024916 02360 ESBO Mobile: +358 400 426312 FINLAND

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Cataloging non-zope content?
by Paul Winkler 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

I'm interested in the possibility of a zcatalog (or derived product) that can crawl and index remote URLs. That would allow my zope sites to search my non-zope sites. Has anybody set up something like this? The alternative I guess would be to use some other search engine for everything, and have an interface to that on my zope sites. --PW Paul Winkler "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"

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Re: database in zope
by Gregory Dudek 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

There are some applications for which I suspect ZODB might not be well-suited. These probably ones where there are lots of records to scan and/or lots of updates, which I presume could lead to major ZODB bloatage. I started using gadfly with zope and came to realize that the warnings regarding it's toy status were to be taken seriously. I switched to mysql and have been very happy with it. It's easy to install and maintain, uses standard SQL syntax and has very good performance. My understanding is that similar arguments can be made for postgres which has some extra features sub subselects but also its own downside.

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Setting the right permissions for var directory
by Zoper 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hi Folks! I use Zope under Linux. What are the right permissions for the var directory? Regards. Giuseppe.

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