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Re: [Zope] Complicated mix of http, https, and ProxyPass
by rroeber1＠unl.edu 30 May '01

30 May '01

zope-request(a)zope.org Sent by: zope-admin(a)zope.org 05/30/01 11:06 AM Please respond to zope To: zope(a)zope.org cc: Subject: Zope digest, Vol 1 #1431 - 41 msgs Subject: Re: [Zope] Complicated mix of http, https, and ProxyPass > I'm having quite the issue right now and am wondering if there is a > workaround > for it. (let me know if i'm posting to the wrong place) > Basically my setup is as follows: > I have apache 1.3.19/mod_ssl running with ProxyPass setup for /Zope to > "localhost:9080.." I want, however, */manage to always go over SSL. I > already > have it setup to block non-ssl attempts to */manage with FilesMatch rules > in > apache. I don't want the rest of the site to go require SSL, but the only > way, > apparently to have */manage use SSL is to have a siteroot object with the > base > set to https. This makes every link that uses that dtml variable use > https. > Is there any way I could only have admin interface require SSL? Without > having > the rest of the site do so? In Apache: I don't know if this works with ProxyPass but it works with FastCGI. All urls with 'manage' in them are forced through https. <IfModule mod_ssl.c> RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTPS} !=on RewriteRule ^/(.*manage.*) https://%{HTTP_HOST}/$1 [R] </IfModule> Best of Luck, Ron

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RE: [Zope] how many zope member ?
by Farrell, Troy 30 May '01

30 May '01

Uhhh. I'm the only zope developer (that I know of) at Williams Communications :( I'm not in IT and I get to develop because IT can't develop fast enough :) They use Java, jsp and asp. I use zope, python, and perl. Troy -----Original Message----- From: Andy McKay [mailto:andym@ActiveState.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:50 PM To: Tony McDonald; Zope mailing list Subject: Re: [Zope] how many zope member ? Likewise here 5:1. I remember seeing a number around 10,000. Multiply that by say 8 :) Cheers. -- Andy McKay. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony McDonald" <tony.mcdonald(a)ncl.ac.uk> To: "Zope mailing list" <zope(a)zope.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] how many zope member ? > On 30/5/01 3:46 pm, "Peter Bengtsson" <mail(a)peterbe.com> wrote: > > > Here at my french company we are 8 zope developers incl me and I seem to be > > the only one using zope(a)zope.org > > > > Isabelle, don't judge the community by it's number of active users. I can't > > possibly be fair. > > > > Peter > > Ditto - I'm the only one here on the Zope list and we have 10 developers in > the immediate vicinity.... > > Tone. > -- > Dr Tony McDonald, Assistant Director, FMCC, http://www.fmcc.org.uk/ > The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 243 6140 > A Zope list for UK HE/FE http://www.fmcc.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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RE:[Zope] how many zope member ?
by Sven Hohage 30 May '01

30 May '01

Hello Isabelle, you find this information on http://lists.zope.org/mailman/roster/zope. I've read 5 minutes ago-> 1365 Non-digested Members of Zope 849 Digested Members of Zope Hope this helps your study! (for your small bank?? ;-)) Bye Sven

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Database Pack error (Oh NO!)
by ed colmar 30 May '01

30 May '01

Hi! I just tried to pack my database, and I got this error. What do I do? IOError Sorry, a site error occurred. Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 223, in publish_module File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: Fake) File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: manage_pack) File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: manage_pack) File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/App/ApplicationManager.py, line 411, in manage_pack (Object: Traversable) File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/DB.py, line 534, in pack File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/zLOG.py, line 213, in LOG File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZLogger/ZLogger.py, line 17, in log_write File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZLogger/stupidFileLogger.py, line 99, in __call__ File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZLogger/stupidFileLogger.py, line 151, in stupid_log_write IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error

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RE: [Zope] ObjectManager problem
by Max Møller Rasmussen 30 May '01

30 May '01

> From: Erik Enge [mailto:erik@thingamy.net] >I'm not sure. I got a similar behaviour once when I di osomething like >this: >_setObject('id', someclass('anotherid', '')) >If I recoall correctly, I couldn't see neither of them with >objectIds() but I couldn't add 'id' or 'anotherid' either. Or something >like that. =20 Yeah but my ID's are identical. So It cannot be that. >It certainly doesn't look like that's your problem... I don't know :) Well it is, sort of, as I have spend the last 6 hours trying out solutions to the problem. And now I am sort of run dry. I don't know how many times this has happened for me when programming in zope. In simpler systems like asp and php I would know how to make a workaround. But if there is a hurdle in Zope you are just stuck. And if the problem isn't rather simple there is no help from neither the mailing list nor #zope. This is Zope's biggest problem for me. You need to know the whole system to make even simple things. Well that isn't your fault, I just had to let out some steam. regards Max M

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Problems with demo server of Proiektor
by Peter Bengtsson 30 May '01

30 May '01

I tried the Proiektor demo server and it looks promising. 1) The Mini calendar should highlight todays date. 2) The address book link on the right should be "Search Address Book", not "Address Book" (since the link on the left side does something completely different) It would be nice if one could - in the Mini Address Book - do both Search and Add. or even a link saying <pseudoenglish>Search and if fail, add</pseudoenglish>. 3) The Address Book thing in the right pane doesn't work (JavaScript disabled Opera 5.02 Windows). Naughty boy. You are using JavaScript to submit the form! 4) When I in the quick Address Book search type in a firstname, I expect to be able to just hit Enter and that submits the form. This is sometimes buggy in NS, but I know that it is something users are expecting to be able to do in IE and Opera on Windows. 5) When adding an entry to the addressbook, the tab key jumps between the input fields zig-zag. It should take you from "First name" to "Middle name" to "Last Lame" (notice the spelling). Use the tabindex="2" HTML attribute. 6) It's not possible to click entries in the Address Book to edit them or see more info. This for example returns a 404 http://demo.iuveno-net.de/Proiektor/Organizer/acl_users/2/Persons/2//Contact s/9/editContactForm 7) Clicking the Delete link in Address Book gives you this message Error Type: NameError Error Value: REQUEST 8) Copying a URL from an inlogged session browser into a non-logged-in gives this ugly message: Error Type: AttributeError Error Value: canAccessObject 9) In the Task Tree, what does the little plus symbol mean? For some reason Opera won't show me the ALT of the image when I roll the mouse over it. And the icon itself isn't intuitive. 10) In the Task Tree the priority shouldn't be an integer. What does 1 mean in contrast to 5?? Use 'high' 'normal' and 'low' instead. And I think three priority options is enough. 11) On the demo server changeing or adding a Task is impossible. It just returns 404's http://demo.iuveno-net.de/Proiektor/Organizer/acl_users/2 And List of all Tasks doesn't work either. 12) Why is status "Halted" by default when you add a Project? 13) """Should be a "refresh this page" option link. What do you mean? I know! When you add a note, and click "Save" you'd expect to see your note in the list of other Notes. IE autorefreshes. Add a feature for controlling the chachedatetime of the templates. <a href="submitsave.html?setcachdate=1second">Save</a>""" % from the Notes page. 14) View Resources in demo in Group Functions doesn't work. What does that do? 15) For the whole tablestructure, I reckon you should expand it a little bit more. There is still plenty of whitespace out there to fill with content. (this is a skin issue perhaps, but it should be changed for the default). 16) A second click on the "E-mail" column in the Address Book should reverse the order. Like Windows and X does. It's not very fast (yet 10 times faster than worldpilot). But this is probably because of other reasons than the code, right. What might be the bottleneck so that I can think of that when I install one. There's great potential in this, but there are little things to think about first. Keep it simple. You've done that well. Use HTML form buttons instead of hyperlinks to do things like "Save" or "Change" or "Cancel". Even though that serves no purpose, it's what people are used to. A hyperlink is a connection to another reference somewhere else and doesn't give the feeling of transmitting away information like a button does. Buy a PalmPilot and try to imitate their interface. It's really good and well thought of. Note how has it is. The AddressBook product (http://www.zope.org/Members/morphex/AddressBook) is only an addressbook, and seems to be a little bit more advanced (at least its planning) when it comes to importing and exporting contacts using the vCard format. I'd like to be able to upload my M$ Outlook contacts in all at ease and upload my Psion vCard files without having to click Save and Confirm buttons. I also want to be able to export one or more contacts in different ways. Any plans for enhancements to the Address Book in this direction? I'd loved to help you. I noticed the note about "Palm Pilot synchronization." in the "Planned Features" list. That's great! How easy would it be to add on my own interfaces to this? I have lots of BugTrackingPseudoIssue meta_type objects around that I want to interface to. Is this easy to do? Plus can I build it so that it only works for certain users? Now, for the most exciting feature. Since speed is everything and you can't ever get good speed with web apps like this. The only way to get the best performance is to download (mirror) the HTML and keep them offline so that your startpage in Opera can be http://localhost:8080/staticproiektor/overview?username=peter&password=bengt sson. The frontpage index_html can be downloaded as static HTML by a cronjob every 1 hour or what ever and using some brains it should be possible to pre-render the static pages so that they know exactly when and when not to use the real live site. If you have a busy cronjob, the only thing that needs to be online is the database. And each of your static page should have a manual refrech button that says "Refresh this page by downloading the current version from the online site" What do you see in the future for this? Phew, very long email. I was excited by the demo and I now want to install it. Here we go! Peter

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Zope and SSL
by Chris Ryland 30 May '01

30 May '01

I've scoured the various Howto's and have found some things related to using Zope and SSL in various ways, but I still can't quite figure out the answer to a really basic question (please be patient--I'm a real Zope newbie). Can Zope itself be configured (without TOO much pain) to use SSL directly, i.e., a provide a secure (https:) connection not using Apache as an intermediary? I've already got Apache working with SSL, so I've got all the certificates, keys, etc., and it's "just" a matter of getting Zope to talk security itself, directly. I'm also curious why this isn't built-in to Zope, i.e., why it isn't (or doesn't seem to be) important to the core DC folks? Thanks. -- Cheers! Chris Ryland Em Software, Inc. www.emsoftware.com

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Zope Survey results posted
by Gary Graham 30 May '01

30 May '01

Digital Creations recently sent out a survey request to find out more about how Zope is being used. The results of that survey request have been posted. If you would care to view the survey summary see : http://www.zope.org/Members/gary/Zope_survey Thanks again to everyone for participating! --Gary Gary Graham gary.graham(a)digicool.com Digital Creations office : 540.361.1720 mobile : 540.840.3813 fax : 540.371.1201 main : 540.371.6909 www.digicool.com www.zope.com www.python.org www.zope.org

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RE: [Zope] ZEO start.py fails to start ZSS on Debian...
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 30 May '01

30 May '01

Well, it now works on my with the source release, so my ZSS is built off the source release, and my ZEO Clients are all Debian deb-packaged Zope installs. Seems like a fair compromise; I will debug it though, and send a not of my findings to the Debian package maintainer for Zope; hopefully a fix can be found. Does anyone know why it might work on Intel deb, but not on SPARC deb? Debian uses an auto-build system to build source for multiple platforms even though a given package maintainer may only build the packages on one. I wonder why this would cause what look to be identical installs (for the most part, same Zope, same python, same libc6) to act differently? Hopefully the answer is to debug start.py with the debugger, find out where my setup causes the except: pass, and attempt to figure out why this is happening. Thanks, Sean -----Original Message----- From: Tres Seaver [mailto:tseaver@palladion.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 5:20 AM To: sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com Cc: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] ZEO start.py fails to start ZSS on Debian... sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com wrote: > I am running Debian testing (SPARC) with the 2.3.2-2 Zope deb, trying to > install ZEO, and am hung up on the storage server install becuase, even in > the simplest of cases, I cannot get lib/python/ZEO/start.py to do > anything... I get the same issue with ZEO 1.0b1 and 1.0b3. There are a > bunch of > try: ... > except: pass > statements in the start.py code, and I'm sure I'm getting hit with one of > them; it's too bad there are not more debugging messages in there... > > Since there are no tracebacks, below is the best I have (a shell transcript) > > Under Debian, Zope is installed at /usr/lib/zope as a program root (and thus > ZEO, unpacked here, with ZEO1.0b3/ZEO copied to lib/python, so that there is > a lib/python/ZEO). /var/lib/zope is the instance home and contains a var > (/var/lib/zope/var) directory with Data.fs, log, and pid files. > > Any help/thoughts would be appreciated... I would probably try to find the errant spot using PDB, e.g., I would drop the following line into the 'main()' function: import pdb; pdb.set_trace() Then, when you run the start script using '-D', the debugger will stop at that point, and you can single step, print variables, etc., using the "standard Python debugger", http://www.python.org/doc/1.5.2p2/lib/module-pdb.html If that doesn't help, or if you've found a bug, then I would ask for further help on the zodb-dev(a)zope.org list. Tres. -- =============================================================== Tres Seaver tseaver(a)digicool.com Digital Creations "Zope Dealers" http://www.zope.org

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RE: [Zope] ObjectManager problem
by Max Møller Rasmussen 30 May '01

30 May '01

> From: Casey Duncan [mailto:cduncan@kaivo.com] > The problem is that you are subclassing SimpleItem.Item and > ObjectManager which are incompatible base classes. SimpleItem.Item > defines its own objectIds method which *always* returns and > empty tuple > (because it is not a container). You should be able to safely > loose this > base class and all will be right with the world. Saved my day and restored my faith ... thanks Max M

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