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Re: [Zope] Higher Education
by Ken Manheimer 26 May '00

26 May '00

On Fri, 26 May 2000, Timothy Wilson wrote: > On Fri, 26 May 2000, Rik Hoekstra wrote: > > > >How many are still interested in this? > > > > I was among one of the first to be active in the zope-edu list and I am > > still interested and even working on a product for course maintenance. I > > even sent Shane an immature snapshot, but had to reimplement the product > > because of nesting ZClasses (sigh). Moreover, I was changing jobs as well, > > which did not exactly help in getting things from the ground. > > > > So - yes I'm still interested Shane. > > I'm still very much interested in this. School's out in a week or so, and I > plan to work hard this summer worked on developing Zope stuff to be used > here at school. I would love to renew the discussions. You know, there's the python edu-sig (http://www.python.org/sigs/edu-sig) - i wonder whether there's some point in crossing over the efforts? On the plus side, there's a number of educators there with real interest in teaching programming in a good way, on the minus side, their charter is pretty much python oriented, and zope may be a more narrow context than they would wish to dwell within. I mean, i'm not sure how the slightly different agendas would work out... Ken Manheimer klm(a)digicool.com

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Re: Zope
by thomas＠hentschel.net 26 May '00

26 May '00

[forwarded to the list for archival] If you're running FreeBSD, try starting zserver by hand first before you connect. For some reason, FreeBSD can't seem to start it thru the pcgi wrapper. -Th On 25 May, James Cummings wrote: > I was looking in the mail list archives...and I saw the problem you posted > about getting the following error: > > > (116) unable to connect, fd=4 >  > > Did you ever determine what was causing this? I just installed Zope...and > I'm getting the same problem. > > Thanks, > James > >

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Zope 2.1.6 / ZWiki 0.6.1 AUTHENTICATED_USER has dual personality
by Geoff Gardiner 26 May '00

26 May '00

I have some problem with AUTHENTICATED_USER being two people when using DTML Methods - sometimes. I have now characterized the situation. So that I don't overload the list I've written details (for as long as they remain) at: http://www.joyful.com/zwiki/ZWikiProblems#authuser Zope 2.1.6, ZWiki 0.6.1. Geoff Gardiner

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Conferencing Groupware
by Jason Cunliffe 26 May '00

26 May '00

Hello veyone I am researching Conferencing groupware application designs and platforms. I welcome any feedback from you all. My immediate aim is to outline the potential for implementing a system using Zope. Right now I want to describe a [mageable]indicative sample of exisitisting ones. In the back of my mind is always 'XCollage' which was a lovely work also developed at NCSA around the same time as XMosaic [greatgreatgrandmama of Mozilla]. http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Software/XCollage/collage.html Its integrated whiteboard was a particularly nice feature. I only ever saw Collage running on SGI machines, but I believe it is simply an One real plus is that Collage was designed by and for scientists not b2b goons. "Collage is a collaborative data analysis tool. It is intended for doing data analysis either alone or simultaneously with several people who are on the same network" It embraced HDF, a data format used for earth observation and much more. HDF has been adopted as a standard format for the Mission to Planet Earth (MTPE) project, of which the key component is the Earth Observing System Data and Information System (EOSDIS). http://hdf.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ What I really want is that combined with a more 'mature' Zwiki capable of handling tables and graphics [Flash, SVG, livedrawing]. easy right? ;-) Do any of you have direct experience with groupware confrencing/whiteboard tools? Some have mentioned MSNetMeeting to me... My interest here is in general functions and features and how they _might_ be integrated with zope, not in starting a ny flamewars. A key issue is the ease of use. Zwiki _almost_ makes it except that people seem to get lost too easily and want more visible structure enabled. Manila is nice for its clean direct results, but does not run on Unix, is expensive and also apparently lacks sufficient documentation. etcetc TIA - Jason ________________________________________________________________ Jason CUNLIFFE = NOMADICS.(Interactive Art and Technology).Design Director

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Pages not showing up - on the fly or via LocalFS
by Jim Sanford 26 May '00

26 May '00

Have dtml method that creates html page that is mostly 1 big table. When the size of this page approaches 150k Zope hangs and never serves it up. If I us _.render to render the page to a file and try to deliver the file via LocalFS it does not show up. If I use my lan and and go directly to the page LocalFS wouldn't serve it comes up without hesitation - it just won't serve through zope. If I lop enough rows off the document with an editor to get it's size down to about 130k it will then render through LocalFS. These files have no graphics. Any ideas???? __________________________________________________________________ Jim Sanford . Database Engineer / \ / Accelerated Technology, Inc. / / 720 Oak Circle Drive East / / \ Mobile, AL 36609 / / \ Voice: 334-661-5770 fax: 334-661-5788 / \ E-Mail: jsanford(a)atinucleus.com Web: http://www.atinucleus.com Nucleus. All You NEED in an RTOS. Royalty Free __________________________________________________________________

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dtml-break ?
by calvin33 26 May '00

26 May '00

Catalog iterative & break : <dtml-in "my_catalog"> <dtml-if "my_condition"> <dtml-var "getobject(data_record_id_)"> <dtml-break> . . . But i have get nothing ! Why ? I am sure that "my_condition" is right because it will show some object without "dtml-break" .

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2 isp's, only 1 allows connection to http://localhost:8080
by Michael Douglass 26 May '00

26 May '00

i am using internet explorer 5, trying to connect to this page, 1 isp allows connection every time, the other doesn't at all. i was hoping to change to the one that doesn't permanently & get rid of the other. is there any way to get around this. i think its something to do with cgi scripts being accepted by the isp. it is mentioned in the zap document very briefly. does anyone know an answer? thanks michael

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km net news: missing rate and genpop?
by George Donnelly 26 May '00

26 May '00

when i create a lm artticle store i only 5 files (plus the catalog of course) article_footer article_header incoming.html item_html popular.html although there are a tons of files inside the km net news folder in the products folder i am not seeing anything else when i create the article store. is this right? am i missing something? zope 2.1.6 with python methods installed. tia Regards, GEORGE DONNELLY george(a)cyklotron.com http://cyklotron.com/ The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were. --John F. Kennedy

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Controlling HTTP_REFERER
by John Hile 26 May '00

26 May '00

Can anybody suggest a good technique for controlling what gets sent in the HTTP_REFERER header when users click on links to pages outside your own site. We are setting up a secure server that may occasionally contain links to outside sites. Normally, the browser passes the complete URL of our current page in HTTP_REFERER when a user clicks on one of these links, but there may be information in the URL that we want to protect. I tried simply setting up a page on our site with a redirect to pass the links through, but the browser still passes the original URL. Any suggestions for a good way to handle this are welcome.

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detecting when a page has been changed
by Neil Burnett 26 May '00

26 May '00

I want to send myself an email when a page has been changed (actually a ZWiki page). Could someone point me towards some information which will help me work out how to do this please? I have searched for a while, but no luck. Thanks in advance Neil

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