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AS400, DB2 and Zope
by Andrew Lahser 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

I am putting together a proposal for a steel, cooper and plastics manufacturer based out of Germany, but with a large IT shop in Detroit. They are looking at Uniface Web Application Server, from Compuware, to do their web work. Although they approached me for my Uniface expertise, they seem open minded toward Zope. This is their first experience building an application on the internet. Thier data is stored in a DB2 database on an AS400. While I have used DB2, that has only been on MVS (don't the call it OS/390 now?, am I dating myself?), and I was never the DBA. They seem to be open minded about the operating system for deploying the web application server, but I suspect that they will want to use Solaris. I gues I am nervous because I don't know what I need to know, and I don't have a AS400 laying around to play with. Is ODBC an option for talking to DB2 on an AS400 from a Solaris box running Zope? How about from a linux box running Zope? Has anyone heard the news on the OCI-based driver that DC promised "real soon now" at the IPC8? Does anyone have that working? I am going to pitch Zope and this project proposal on March 17. There is a lot of money on the line, I appreciate any assitance and my memory is long. If appropriate, please resond to me in private. Thanks, Drew andrew(a)apl-software.com

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manage_upload question
by Timothy Wilson 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

Hi everyone, I've got a page where I'd like to have a person update a file object without going throught the management interface. The manage_upload method would seem to be just the ticket, but I can't figure out how to call it with a regular hypertext link. I want to have a link that says "Update" and call manage_upload on a particular file object when it's clicked. Ideas? -Tim -- Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.k12.mn.us/ | http://www.zope.org/ W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org/ wilson(a)visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com/

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Zope Documentation Project (ZDP) Announcement
by Maik Roeder 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

Dear Zopistas, The Zope Documentation Project is pleased to announce the availability of the new zdp.zope.org website, which aims to give the Zope community an additional place for sharing knowledge, and for working together on providing good Zope documentation. The new ZDP homepage already contains many useful resources for the Zope community, which for the most part complement the already existing types of documentation available on zope.org. We sincerely hope that Digital Creations will play an active role in the Zope Documentation Project and help merging the existing Zope documentation with the documentation provided via ZDP. To see what Digital Creation's Plans for Zope Documentation are, have a look at: http://www.zope.org/Members/Amos/Documentation/Plan When we built the new ZDP site, great emphasis was placed on providing ways to easily get aware of what is new on the site and to quickly get an overview of what pieces of documentation need Maintainers, Writers, Commenters and Reviewers. Thereby contributors are directed to the documents and projects that need help. Everyone can contribute according to their interest and level of experience. We invite you to join the ZDP and to help building up a great knowledge base on Zope. This also includes helping to customize and extend the ZDP-Tools, which is the software with which the ZDP site was built and on which it runs. The ZDP-Tools are being developed on-site, and are completely written in DTML to allow for rapid through-the-web programming. Questions on the ZDP tools can either be directed to the ZDP mailing list or to me, as I am the ZDP-Tools maintainer (Maik Röder, roeder(a)berg.net) The most important sub-projects of the Zope Documentation Project are: 1. ZBook In this project, we are collaboratively writing a book about Zope. There are already many chapters, most of which are still drafts. We need feedback on these drafts, so maybe you can give some comments directly on the drafts, or discuss them on the ZDP mailing list or directly with the author. The ZBook project is maintained by Tom Deprez (tom.deprez(a)uz.kuleuven.ac.be) 2. ZFAQ This project tries to answer the frequently asked questions on Zope. The project is in need of additional contributors, so if you have a question on Zope, or an answer to share, then you are welcome to add it to the ZFAQ. If you want to help moving the old Zope FAQ to the new one, then just contact Kamon Ayeva (kamon.ayeva(a)bureauveritas.com) the maintainer of the ZFAQ project. 3. ZSnippets Snippets are short pieces of DTML or Python code which come with a description of their purpose and how they work. This project is maintained by Rik Hoekstra (rik.hoekstra(a)inghist.nl) who will get an automatic email notification when you add a Snippet, so you are invited to help flooding his inbox ;-) To become a ZDP member, write an email to the ZDP mailing list (zdp(a)zope.org) and we will create an account for you. For the time being, this will give you Manager rights on zdp.zope.org. Once we use a tool like the forthcoming PTK Login Manager for automatically adding new members, we will have to give more restricted access rights. Thanks go out to Digital Creations for sponsoring the ZDP server at Codeit Computing (http://www.codeit.com) a Zope Hosting Provider which is kindly giving the ZDP project commercial support for an Advanced Zope Hosting Server ! The ZDP site has not been tested under heavy load, so just in case you should experience down times, please report to the ZDP mailing list at zdp(a)zope.org, and come back later. If you should not be able to reach this site under the name zdp.zope.org, try using the IP address 209.185.210.24 in the meantime. So, you are invited to visit us at: http://zdp.zope.org Best Regards, Maik Röder

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Uploading file and transaction error?
by Evan Gibson 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

>I have an uploading section on may intranet site (no ZCLASS), where >people are able to upload files from their local pcs, setting properties >for the files and selecting a subfolder (or creating a new one), where >the file will be stored. > >Now I get from time to time an attribute error and I have no clue, why >and what I should do to prevent this. > >Error type: AttributeError > Error value: commit_sub > >the traceback: > >File D:\PROGRA~1\zope_214\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 214, in >publish_module > File D:\PROGRA~1\zope_214\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 179, >in publish > File D:\PROGRA~1\zope_214\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 202, in >zpublisher_exception_hook > (Object: ElementWithAttributes) > File D:\PROGRA~1\zope_214\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 169, >in publish > File D:\PROGRA~1\zope_214\lib\python\ZODB\Transaction.py, line 246, in >commit > >Has anybody seen this too? I get this exact same problem trying to add completely normal File Objects to my Zope site. I can create the object empty if I don't include an upload, but the instant I try and upload anything it dies with the above error. It happens _constantly_ for me, not just time to time. Evan Gibson -- Evan ~ThunderFoot~ Gibson ~ nihil mutatem, omni deletum ~ May the machines watch over you with loving grace.

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RE: [Zope] Zope needs this (and Dynamo has it)
by Alexander Staubo 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

> From: Thomas Stenhaug [mailto:thomas@src.no] > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 2:34 PM > To: Alexander Staubo > Cc: Zope Mailing List (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope needs this (and Dynamo has it) > > > * Alexander Staubo > > [many good points cut away] > > | Whether this is a good or a bad thing I'll leave for you to decide; > | I don't like Dynamo, but I acknowledge its technical edge on Zope > | (and other solutions) in several areas, such as clustering, > | reporting, personalization services, e-commerce services, stability, > | and raw speed. > > Not that I have very much to base a comparison on, but I regard Zope > as both stable and fairly speedy. I think I can guess in what regards > an alternative could be faster, but I'd really appreciate to learn > where Zope lacks in stability. Can you provide any references? It is very stable, indeed, so I take that back. ;-) There are cases where I have been forced to kill Zope processes that have falled into some sort of coma, but I've written these off as growing pains in an evolving product. ;-) To date, Zope's stability problems seem to have been mostly related to fragile database drivers. I was really thinking of something else, and should have used another phrase -- something like "high availability". Again, I have only read the marketing material on ZEO, the product that supposedly provides such features (load balancing, replication). Assuming ZEO works, strike that from my list. > | This situation has nothing to do with open vs. closed, either. Just > | like Zope we're talking about proprietary (as opposed to standarized > | -- DTML may be open, but it's still proprietary) > > I don't quite grok what "the situation" is referring to, but I think > you're wrong here, or at least mistaken regarding the meaning of > "proprietary". Proprietary, according to Merriam-Webster, means this: > > [cut from Merriam-Webster] > Function: adjective > Etymology: Late Latin proprietarius, from Latin proprietas property -- > more at PROPERTY > Date: 1589 > 1 : of, relating to, or characteristic of a proprietor > <proprietary rights> > 2 : used, made, or marketed by one having the exclusive legal right > <a proprietary process> > 3 : privately owned and managed and run as a profit-making > organization <a proprietary clinic> > [/] > > > [...] > | and Zope, despite its many powerful features, is not big enough for > | truly big things. > | > | This is a two-part problem. The first part is that Zope's bullshit > | factor is too low; > [...] > | We tech people know better, we know a shiny surface tells us nothing > | about the engine underneath, but we tech people are not holding the > | crucial component -- those big brown bags of money. > > I'm not sure if I agree it's a problem, then, that Zope lacks in the > big-department. :-) > > | [under Zope's surface] lies a powerful engine with scalability > | problems. > > What part of Zope's engine are you referring to here? Do you mean > Python in general, are some specific part? Like ZODB? > > | So far the only way to scale properly with Zope is a combination of > | a load-balancing clustering system (eg., TurboLinux' TurboCluster > | Server, which I can personally vouch for -- brilliant stuff -- or > | Linux Virtual Server) with Digital Creations' ZEO, of which I've > | only read about. > > I actually thought of ZEO as a very nice way to scale Zope. > > | There are Zope sites out there that are suffering scalability > | problems (I won't mention specifics, other than that the project I'm > | involved in is one of them). > > It would be very much appreciated if you could share some specifics. > > [...] > | Zope desperately needs native support for XSL/XSLT as an alternative > | transformation language. > > I second that. > > [...] > | As far as pollution goes, assuming Zope exports the appropriate data > | -- in whatever form -- then support for > | performance/monitoring/management APIs such as SNMP, PCP, WBEM, and > | to a lesser extent PDH, aren't difficult to isolate into add-on > | products. > > You are right about that, and I think that's a better way to provide > such support, rather then building specific support for any of them > into Zope. > > > Thomas >

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Setting attribute from DTML method in ZClass
by Chris Niekel 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

Hi, I've created a ZClass with a method 'force_update'. When a user is viewing an object, there is a formbutton which they can press and force_update is then called. So far it works. What I want my force_update to do, is that it should set the needs_check (type boolean) in the object to true. With <dtml-if needs_check> I print different things depending on whether the object needs a check. From the Property sheet I can change the settings. So, how do I put something like this().needs_check = 1 in a dtml-method? Greetings, Chris Niekel

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Simple Z Search Question - lost something while renaming
by Michael Simcich 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

I'm trying to determine what might have failed in a Z Search generated set of objects. I used the Z Search wizard to create the search interface and tabular report. They ran fine. I then renamed the data source (odbc) and both the Z Search generated objects. I made sure that the input form reflected the new report name. Now the input form will come up but when attempting to search I get a "Object Doesn't Exist" type error. I've also recreated the tabular report and it's input form with the Z Search interface, and of course they work. I think the problem is with the report as the original input form will sucessfully populate the recreated report. What's interesting is that a compare of the text in the original vs the new Z Search created report object show that they contain identical text. I've also used Z Search to creat a similar "record" format pair of objects that seem to endure any number of renamings, which is puzzling too. I think that there are some variables hidden away, properties, whatever, that I can't get to. This is probably pretty transparent to everyone, but it's a bit of a stumper for me. In general this is a useful experiment as it's obviously very important to know what effect name changes will have. The docs state something to the effect that it's not too wise to change names, but I've also seen that some name changes are propagated. So it would be great to know what the pattern is. Maybe it's as simple as "rename at your own risk". Thanks Michael Simcich AccessTools

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zclass instance "broken" on copy/paste?
by Darran Edmundson 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

I have a ZClass (Shot) which is nested beneath a container ZClass (Storyboard). I.e., an instance of Storyboard might be: Scene1 (Storyboard) - shot1 (Shot) - shot2 (Shot) - shot3 (Shot) ... For reasons that I cannot discern, copying and pasting instances of Shot does not work. I can copy them, but pasting creates a broken object: "This object is broken because the unknown product that created it is no longer installed or is installed incorrectly." I suspect the copy has in fact worked because the title in brackets is that of the source object. This is an isolated problem on my site. All other nested Zclasses work fine but I cannot pin down the difference. This is Zope 2.1.4. Has anyone else encountered this problem? Darran.

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mod_pcgi2 for whole site
by Jordan B. Baker 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

Weirdness... I've almost got mod_pcgi2 setup to serve my entire site fronted by Apache but I've run into one final snag. When I access the home page of the site I notice that the BASE HREF returned by Zope is saying its http://XXX/index.html/ Apparently Apache is appending the Index name for the folder? I tried Options -Indexes but this didn't solve it. Anyone have a valid configuration for this situation that I can take a look at? Thanks, ------- Jordan Baker -- jbb(a)spyderlab.com

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More search engine woes
by Nolan Darilek 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

I'm not sure if this is a PTK-specific issue, but I'm starting to believe that it isn't. So I thought I'd post here with my problem and see if someone could possibly point me in the right direction. I also unsubscribed from the list recently, so please CC me with any replies. I'm using Zope on a student organization website which I am developing. Ideally I'd like for this to be an extremely popular community-driven site, so a working search engine would be a necessity. Additionally, I'd like to exclude unapproved items from searches so that only moderated content is placed in the queue of news items and ad banners which are being indexed. I'm also writing site-specific documentation which is intended to guide members through the process of creating news items, ad banners, etc., and I'd very much like to have this content indexed as well. Today I noticed that my search engine failed to produce any results. Searching for the letter 'e' didn't even reveal anything, which is unusual since E is the most common letter in the English language AFAIK. So I tried digging into the ZCatalog documentation, and poking around in the interface has confused me. I created a help folder, and added an advertising document which briefly explains how to create news items and such. Yet, I can't seem to get this item to appear in the ZCatalog. In fact, the only item which does appear is /Members/nolan, my PTK account page. Clicking on the "find" tab and checking the "all items" checkbox seems to imply that all items of every type on my site will be cataloged, but doing this always results in only one page being listed in the catalog. Is there some reason why the contents of help/ aren't being listed? Thanks a bunch. If I can provide any additional information then I will be glad to do so.

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