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help :( ... entire site disappeared
by Daniel M. Drucker 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

I reinstalled Zope2, having saved my var directory to another location. I shut down zope properly before saving that directory. Now, when I put the files from the old 'var' into the new 'var', the new Zope2 doesn't see them and just gives the default view with acl_users, control panel, and standard_*. Have I lost everything? What happened? Why doesn't it recognize my Data.bbb?

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ZORB3 Errors
by J Kinsley 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

After posting this error yesterday and getting no reply, I decided to verify that it was not due to something left over from a previous installation. I dumped my entire installation into another directory and untarred Zope-2.0.0a2 into an empty directory. Then did the following: $ python w_pcgi.py $ ./start Upon entering the root manage view, the first thing I noticed was the QuickStart which I had never seen before. I then went to Control_Panel/Database/manage_cacheParameters and no error. Next I tried Control_Panel/Database/manage_cacheGC and again no error. At that point I thought I had solved the problem and backed out to Control_Panel when I noticed there was no restart button. Remembering that the Restart button was part of ZServer, I shutdown the Zope process and went back to look at the start file. There I changed python serve.py to python z2.py and restarted. Now upon entering the root manage view, the first thing I noticed was QuickStart was no longer visible. I proceeded to the Control_Panel/Database/manage_cacheParameters and there was the TypeError exception again. I backed out and tried Control_Panel/Database/manage_cacheCG and again there was the TypeError exception. Here again is the traceback output which is exactly the same for both cases. exceptions.TypeError Traceback (innermost last): File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 255, in publish_module File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 161, in publish File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 154, in mapply (Object: cacheParameters) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 98, in call_object (Object: cacheParameters) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py, line 120, in __call__ (Object: cacheParameters) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 514, in __call__ (Object: cacheParameters) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/App/CacheManager.py, line 109, in cache_length (Object: Control_Panel) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZODB/DB.py, line 272, in cacheSize TypeError: too many arguments; expected 1, got 2 The problem starts in App/CacheManager in cache_length() where it determines we are not using BoboPOS2 and tries to return db.cacheSize(). When using serve.py, we are using BoboPOS2 and thus the error in ZORB/DB.py is not encountered. At this point, I have no idea how to go about solving the problem. I have looked at the code and cannot immediately find anything wrong with it, but as I stated before, I have only been using Python for a few months so I may be overlooking something. Also, why does QuickStart show up using BoboPOS2 and not with ZORB3? Is anyone else using ZServer and getting these errors or am I the only one who seems to have this problem? Regards, Jarrod Kinsley

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examples of string functions?
by Graham Chiu 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Hi, Just looking for a simple DTML example of how to use the string functions. I wish to check to see if the first and last characters of a sequence-key are a pipe character or not. Thanks, ------- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiu<at>compkarori.co.nz

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2.0.0a[12] Cache Prameters / Flush Cache TypeError
by J Kinsley 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

I am getting a strange TypeError in both the 'Cache Parameters' and 'Flush Cache' tabs of the 'control_panel'. I had initially seen this error in 2.0.0a1 back when I first installed Zope (1.x.x never worked because I run Python1.5.2). I had forgotten about it until a little bit ago when I encountered it again in 2.0.0a2. I have searched both the Collector and the list archives and have found no mention of this error, so I am assuming it is restricted to my configuration. Below is the traceback which is exactly the same for both functions. Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. exceptions.TypeError Traceback (innermost last): File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 238, in publish_module File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 108, in publish File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 104, in mapply (Object: cacheParameters) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 97, in call_object (Object: cacheParameters) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py, line 112, in __call__ (Object: cacheParameters) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 405, in __call__ (Object: cacheParameters) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/App/CacheManager.py, line 104, in cache_length (Object: Control_Panel) File /opt/www/zope/lib/python/ZODB/DB.py, line 267, in cacheSize TypeError: too many arguments; expected 1, got 2 I cannot seem to figure out why this is happening from the given information. However, I've only been using Python for two months and Zope for two weeks, so I may be over looking something. System Parameters: Zope-2.0.0a2 Python-1.5.2 RedHat-6.0 Linux-2.2.9 Regards, Jarrod Kinsley

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Redirects
by Phil Grove 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Hello all, Can anybody tell me if it is poosible to specify a target frame in a redirect command?? Cheers, P. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Grove phil.grove(a)flg21.com Web Development 0113 2949494 flg21 http://www.flg21.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [Zope] FTP and apache?
by Michel Pelletier 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel M. Drucker [mailto:dmd@3e.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 2:43 PM > To: Zope List > Subject: [Zope] FTP and apache? > > > > I'm using Zope 2 (a2) + apache, on port 9673. FTP starts up fine on > port 9221 if I use ZServer, but if I use apache (I'm using the > prebuilt Zap, copied from my Zope1 installation) FTP doesn't start up. > What might I be doing wrong? > Apache is not an FTP server. If you don't run ZServer, there is no process to listen on port 9221. Zope does not listen on ports, the servers that use Zope do. If you want to run Apache as your HTTP server, and ZServer as your FTP server (and whatever else) use ZServer with PCGI. -Michel > dmd > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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FTP and apache?
by Daniel M. Drucker 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

I'm using Zope 2 (a2) + apache, on port 9673. FTP starts up fine on port 9221 if I use ZServer, but if I use apache (I'm using the prebuilt Zap, copied from my Zope1 installation) FTP doesn't start up. What might I be doing wrong? dmd

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ZODB3 question
by Jimmie Houchin 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

>From thread: RE: [Zope] Large Portal requirements (was: Other web servers?) At 03:15 PM 6/14/99 -0400, Michel wrote: >In the future, we will be have the client server model of ZODB3 (which >will be a commercial product) that lets you have multiple Zope frontend >processes (possibly on different machines) accessing multiple database >backend processes (possibly on different machines). Also, ZServer is >currently multi-threaded, but there is no theoretical limitation to >making it multi-process, in which each Zope instance will have it's own >Python and thus it's own global Python lock, thus giving the OS the >ability to schedule multiple processes among multiple processors, a >little heavier than threads on multi-processor, but *vastly* easier to >impliment and far more stable. And then... >From thread: RE: [Zope] How stable is the 2.0 alpha release? At 11:12 AM 6/16/99 -0400, Michel wrote: >Yes, 2.0 alpha will work fine with an existing Database *if* you run it >in ZODB2 mode (no concurrency). If you run it in ZODB3 mode (the >default) your Data.bbb file will not even be used, rather, a different >file called Data.fs (fs = File Storage, remember, ZODB3 can use multiple >backend stores) will be used. Data.fs and Data.bbb are two different >formats, and are incompatable. Real Soon Now we will have a conversion >script to upgrade from Data.bbb format to Data.fs format, but I for one, >will promise no date. To clarify my understanding. Will their be a non client-server version of ZODB3 which offers concurrency that will be a part of the non-commercial, open source part of Zope? Jimmie Houchin

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RE: [Zope] Split the list again?
by Alexander Staubo 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

I didn't say I didn't _understand_, I just uttered my disputably subjective opinion that the rationale is utter bollocks. I accept that the statistical minority and the apparently devaluated authority of my opinion makes the difference of a pebble on a beach in this forum, and will forthwith resign to the fact that I'm obviously the newbie that you imply, and that I, as a sometime user, have no business talking about user-friendliness. I'll just go back to my BASIC programs now and ponder on the intricacies of the command "print", thanks. :) I second the idea of going NNTP. -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "`Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.'" --Douglas Adams, _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ >-----Original Message----- >From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Ken >Manheimer >Sent: 16. juni 1999 19:13 >To: 'Alexander Staubo'; Zope Mailing List (E-mail) >Cc: 'Phillip Beazley' >Subject: RE: [Zope] Split the list again? > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alexander Staubo [mailto:alex@mop.no] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 11:15 AM >> To: Zope Mailing List (E-mail) >> Subject: RE: [Zope] Split the list again? >> >> >> I never figured this on out. There's nothing harmful about Reply-To. > >Because you don't see it doesn't mean it's wrong!-) > >In brief, reply-to is not intended for the mailing list to >grab replies. >Munging of it breaks that intended purpose. > >The actual purpose is to enable senders to specify an alternative >address, other than the one from which they're sending the message, as >the destination for replies. This is very simple, and very useful for >people who send mail from multiple places and want to be assured that >they'l get the replies in one place. It's also used to specify >different response addresses depending on what's being sent. In any >case, it's a tool for the original sender, not the intermediate mailing >list. Having the mailing list system stomp the reply-to for its own >purpose loses that essential information. This is "evil", in >programming parlance. > >Having the mailing list system try to compensate by, eg, altering the >'from' address to preserve the reply-to info loses the from info, and >compounds the sin. This is the path to irredeemable corruption - known >in some circles as excessive bureacracy:-) > >There are other reasons for not munging the reply-to - i think >the cited >article goes into them, i don't recall exactly which. It's sufficient >to say that (1) the fact that you don't understand the >"reply-to munging >considered harmful" rationale is not adequate reason to dismiss the >rationale, and (2) the controversy alone, plus the above >specific reason >- plus (3, 4, 5...) reply-to's actual intended purpose, plus the >principle that minimal intervention is desirable, (particularly when it >comes to email!) is enough to convince us to think twice >before changing >it back. Wouldn't that be enough for you? > >In another message on the subject, Phillip Beazley wrote: > >> >reply-to list also leads to a higher incidence of mail loops, stupid >> >vacation messages, and other rubbish, being sent to the list. > >> If that's the case, the list administrator needs to get a better list >server. > >I won't take offense, though i'm one of the developers of the list >server in question (mailman, which has its pluses and its minuses). I >do think it's presumptuous - particularly in light of the litany of >reasons above - to dismiss the cited article, and opinions of >many savvy >email folk. There are good reasons for the decision - and we're not >planning to change it. > >Ken Manheimer >klm(a)digicool.com > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Zope app listing?
by Barry Reicherter 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Forgive me if I missed it, but is there an index or listing of Zope apps created by others somewhere, a la freshmeat or slashdot? Thanks.

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