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A Public Standing Ovation!
by Hadar Pedhazur 24 May '99

24 May '99

I would like to personally and publicly give a standing ovation to everyone at Digital Creations for the magnificent job they did at LinuxExpo this past week. This includes all of the preparation that went on pre-show (for quite a long period), and not just those brave souls who talked their voices out, and demoed their hearts out. I had reasonably high expectations before the show, but they were greatly exceeded in every possible dimension. Every individual at DC had an exceptionally strong personal presence with individuals, corporate types, the media, etc. The energy was contagious. Not just for DC, but even a few of the surrounding booths seemed to feed off of the energy in the DC booth. Paul uses the word "gravity" to describe some of the general momentum at DC. The word is perfect to describe how a much higher percentage of folks were "drawn in" (gravity?) to the DC booth than to the average booth at LinuxExpo. The demos were (as you have heard before) fantastic. The amazing thing about the demos is that they conveyed very clearly, in roughly 10 minutes, some extremely powerful concepts. Most people got it (perhaps after asking a question or two :-). This is a really hard thing to do, and again, the DC crowd should be congratulated not only for building the software to allow these seminal ideas to be realized, but for distilling all of the amazing things they could have demonstrated down to a handful of cohesive and coherent relatively simple operations that encapsulated the essence of Zope, the Portal Toolkit, etc. Paul gave a speech on Open Source and Business on Saturday morning. It was attended by nearly 100 people. No one left early (I didn't attend any other talks, but I heard that it was quite common to have a number of early leavers). They gave him a very nice ovation at the end, and easily a third of the attendees hung around afterwards to exchange cards with Paul and me. P.S. And, in the spirit of the Python community, immediately after hitting deliver, I'm leaving for the seven hour drive home after an exhausting and exhilirating week :-)

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RE: [Zope] UserDb extensions
by Paul Everitt 24 May '99

24 May '99

> Reed wrote: > > Unfortunately, nothing beyond Basic Auth. seems to be Well, Digest Authentication has now been finalized and is implemented (I believe) in IE5, though Netscape 5 won't have it. > > standard, except full blown SSL, encrypting thre entire > traffic stream > > (and it does slow things down). I suppose a Java applet > would work, or > > perhaps even some really clever javascript? Eventually, > this turns into > > a Diffie-Hellman key exchange sort of thing, doesn't it? This is precisely the kind of thing Chris Petrilli was looking at doing. He's going to be taking over security in Zope, so I expect sometime in the next 3 months we'll make some kind of progress here. --Paul

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different content from 9673 and CGI version of database!
by Tony McDonald 24 May '99

24 May '99

Hi all, This is weird, I have a Zope server running on port 9673 on a machine. I also have an Apache rewrite rule that starts up a pcgi_publisher.py process. The rewrite rule points to the right cgi and the Apache web server logs show that things are happening. My rewrite rule is; RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.*) RewriteRule ^/(.*) /home/nnle/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi/$1 [e=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l] The file /home/nnle/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi is; #!/home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/pcgi/bin/pcgi-wrapper PCGI_NAME=Main PCGI_MODULE_PATH=/home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/lib/p ython/Main.py PCGI_PUBLISHER=/home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/pcgi/pc gi_publisher.py PCGI_EXE=/home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/bin/python PCGI_SOCKET_FILE=/home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/var/pcgi.soc PCGI_PID_FILE=/home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/var/pcgi.pid PCGI_ERROR_LOG=/home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/var/pcgi.log PCGI_DISPLAY_ERRORS=1 PYTHONHOME=/home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc BOBO_REALM=Zope BOBO_DEBUG_MODE=1 and the directory /home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/ contains the var directory with my Data.bbb file in it. I'm *almost certain* that I'm using the same Data.bbb file (I say 'almost' because I can't figure it any other way). The Apache URL gives the location as: /home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/var/Data.bbb and the 9673 URL gives the location as: /home/nnle/zope/Zope-1.10.2-solaris-2.5.1-sparc/var/Data.bbb But the content is *different* depending on whether I use the Apache URL and the port 9673 URL. Can anyone give me a clue as to what stupid thing I've done now? (sigh). Tone ------ Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2

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UserDb extensions
by reedstrm＠wallace.ece.rice.edu 24 May '99

24 May '99

Hey zopeists - I've already sent a note to the DC guys about this, but they're all busy having fun at the Expo, so I thoungt I'd let the rest of you know, as well. I'v been using the USerDb unsupported product, and like it. However, I'v been bothered by seeing my users cleartext passwords in the db, so I added crypt hashed storage to the UserDb product. This will allow the use of unix 'passwd' style passwords (also used by apache for .htpasswd files) in the database. It also gives a modicum of security if you db backend is on a different machine from the Zope install, so the passwords don't travel around in the clear in the SQL queries. Of course, the biggest benfit is my not having to cringe when I see the bad passwords people chose in the database ;-) If anyone wants the patches, I can supply them. I assume it'll show up in the unsupported or contrib downloads at www.zope.org, once they get back. This requires the python crypt module. My Win32 install seems to have included it automagically. I had to copy the cryptmodule.so from my system python install into my Zope specific one to get in to work on Linux. Ross P.S. A useful script, for converting an exisiting sql db: as written, it takes a whitespace seperated file of username,password pairs and spits out sql statements to update the passwords (this version works with Postgresql: you may need to flavor by changing the ; or something to work with other dbs) from string import split,letters from crypt import crypt from whrandom import choice import fileinput for line in fileinput.input(): name,password=split(line) print "update users set password='%s' where username='%s';" % (crypt(password,choice(letters)+choice(letters)),name) -- Ross J. Reedstrom, Ph.D., <reedstrm(a)rice.edu> NSBRI Research Scientist/Programmer Computer and Information Technology Institute Rice University, 6100 S. Main St., Houston, TX 77005

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trees
by Dmitry B. Khlonin 24 May '99

24 May '99

How I make #tree if objects for #tree stored in database? for example - has two tables: TFolders and TObjects Each TObject found in one TFolder. How I make this #tree without making objects in Zope database? Obviously using only DTML.

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Zope & Apache
by Chuck Mead 24 May '99

24 May '99

I'm trying to run Zope with Apache... but I can't get into "manage". This is in httpd.conf: # Zope configuration maps /Zope/ to the Zope.cgi CGI script RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.*) RewriteRule ^/Zope/(.*) /home/httpd/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi/$1 [e=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l] Note: the rewrite rule is all one line! Zope.cgi is in /home/httpd/cgi-bin/ and it works because I get the login screen! When I enter the username and the password it rejects it and doesn't allow me access. It says "No Authorization header found". I'm running: apache_modperl-1.3.6-1.19-1 on Red Hat Linux 5.1. The $zope_home/var directory and the $zope_home/access file are both set UID and GID nobody and the access file is readable by nobody and root. Can somebody hit me with the clue-bat? Cheers! -- Chuck Mead, CTO - Moongroup Consulting, Inc.- http://www.moongroup.com/ Need help with sendmail/fetchmail/procmail or MUA's? Join the mailhelp mailing list. Send "s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e" (no quotes and no hyphens) in the subject line to mailhelp-request(a)moongroup.com to join.

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PO'd
by Chuck Mead 24 May '99

24 May '99

You know this is really a major pain in the butt! I just saw Zope for the first time at LinuxExpo and it rocks... so here I am... I've installed it for Apache and E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G works except for the manage screen... that fails everytime! Why... I've done everything it says in the doc's including that infernal WEBSERVER.txt file and then I tried a whole pile of stuff from the archives of this list and none of it works... Surely somebody, somewhere has had this problem and fixed it and is capable of explaining the process required to make this work... Anybody?!? Cheers! -- Chuck Mead, CTO - Moongroup Consulting, Inc.- http://www.moongroup.com/ Need help with sendmail/fetchmail/procmail or MUA's? Join the mailhelp mailing list. Send "s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e" (no quotes and no hyphens) in the subject line to mailhelp-request(a)moongroup.com to join.

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Zope vs CVS (Re: [ZDP] OpenContent issues)
by Simon Michael 24 May '99

24 May '99

I wrote: > CVS is used to provide & control access to the files. We also have the option to use zope to provide distributed access. This would be a good public demonstration of zope power. Some advantages of using CVS: - most powerful version control & logging of who did what - widespread & standard - excellent tools like cvsweb ready-made - supports working offline & merging with master copy Some advantages of using zope: - demonstrates zope to potential users - simple through-the-web authoring - CVS is too tricky for many - advanced functionality can be added if needed - learning exercise I have been debating this zope/cvs issue myself, in regard to an intranet which I maintain which currently uses CVS to allow distributed authoring. Switching to zope will allow me to provide an easier interface & more features, but I don't want to give up the advantages of CVS either. I haven't thought of a good way to combine the two. Question: has the latest webDAV support resolved this dilemma, or will it soon ? Regards, -Simon

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help
by Alan Chung 24 May '99

24 May '99

I am recently starting using zope and it's great! But I am looking for MySQL database adapter for win32. Or is there any other way I can access Mysql database from zope? Please help me. Alan

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RE: [Zope] Zope 1 -> Zope2 import/export
by Michel Pelletier 23 May '99

23 May '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chad McDaniel [mailto:chadm@sgi.com] > Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 1:30 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Zope 1 -> Zope2 import/export > > > I tried to copy my new project to from Zope 1 to Zope 2, but Zope 2 > gives the error: > --- >  > --- > > has anyone managed to get this to work? > -- Zope 2 uses ZODB3, which has a new database format. Zope 1 databases will not be compatable with it. There will be a conversion script supplied with (probably) the beta release of Zope 2. Remember, 'alpha' means 'on the bleeding edge'. ;) -Michel > -chad > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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