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ZOracleDA for NT binary
by T. C. Huang 25 May '99

25 May '99

Hi,Zoper: Any one has built ZOracleDA binary for Windows NT? I want to connect Zope 1.10.2 (NT) to Oracle Server 7 in my company, but I have no C compiler on NT platform. Does any one have a binary distribution? T.C. Huang

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small problem in external methods
by Martin Dougiamas 25 May '99

25 May '99

Another small Zope/Python problem I just can't seem to nail, no matter what docs I read. In one of my external methods, I have the name of a subfolder in a string variable. How can I reference properties of this subfolder? ie this seems like it should work, but doesn't: def example(self): foldername = 'fred' subfolders = self.objectItems(['Folder']) return subfolders[foldername].title Ideas? -- ### Martin Dougiamas -- Internet Agent "...The Eighties, ### Centre for Educational Advancement the Nineties, ### http://cea.curtin.edu/staff/martin the Naughties."

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ANN: Running ZServer as service using srvany
by Alexander Staubo 25 May '99

25 May '99

I put together something that lets you run ZServer as a service (permitting Zope to run without needing to log on first) under Windows NT, until ZServer gets this functionality built in. I'm planning on writing a service proper, but until that happens there is this little fix. "There is a simple way to run ZServer as a service under Windows NT. Microsoft releases two handy (unsupported) utilities as part of the Windows NT 4.0 Resource Kit, for the purpose of running non-services as services, called instsrv.exe and srvany.exe. These utilities can let you run any program or Python script, not just ZServer, as a service. To install ZServer as a service, run the included Python script install.py." Download at http://www.mop.no/~alex/download/zserver-srvany.zip. -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "Give me an underground laboratory, half a dozen atom smashers and a beautiful girl in a diaphanous veil waiting to be turned into a chimpanzee, and I care not who writes the nation's laws." --S. J. Perelman

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Running external applications
by Graham Chiu 25 May '99

25 May '99

I'm a newbie to Zope. I could not get it to run with my webserver, so am using zserver for the moment. How does one run all ones legacy applications eg. windows executables, perl scripts etc. I've checked the documentation and the FAQ but the only external methods seem to be written in Python. Thanks, ------- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiu<at>compkarori.co.nz

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Apache/Zope newbie setup help
by Randy Edwards 25 May '99

25 May '99

Hi Folks, I've been toying with Zope on an NT server machine for a few days and I'm interested enough to try it on the real server, my Debian GNU/Linux box running Apache-SSL 1.3.6.4. I've read the install and webserver.txt docs but I still don't have the configuration just right. I can access Zope alright, and I put the rewrite rule in and that seems to be working. What I'm having a problem with is the access. A couple of stupid questions, if you don't mind. What apache config file should the <Location...> block be put into; I'm assuming access.conf, correct? (And yes, I'm restarting apache to reread the config files (in case you're wondering).) Though I get an authentication prompt, I just get an "Authentication failed. Retry?" prompt in Netscape. In the location block, I have AuthUserFile pointed at /usr/local/zope/access, which is the edited access file for my zope install. Does this sound correct? Any tid-bits, smacks with a clue-bat, tips, and pointers to documentation would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, | Windows98 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a . | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 Randy | bit operating system originally coded for (redwards(a)golgotha.net) | a 4 bit microprocessor written by a 2 bit http://www.golgotha.net | company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.

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RE: [Zope] Zope questions?
by Michel Pelletier 24 May '99

24 May '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Lownds [mailto:tony@metanet.com] > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 7:15 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Zope questions? > > > I remember seeing a utility to get zope objects from the > command line - > what archive is that in now? lib/python/ZPublisher/Client.py is an HTTP based Zope RPC mechanism. Quothe the usage information: """ Usage: %s [-u username:password] url [name=value ...] where url is the web resource to call. The -u option may be used to provide a user name and password. Optional arguments may be provides as name=value pairs. In a name value pair, if a name ends in ":file", then the value is treated as a file name and the file is send using the file-upload protocol. If the file name is "-", then data are taken from standard input. The body of the response is written to standard output. The headers of the response are written to standard error. """ You can also call things from python: [michel@aldous python]$ python1.5.1 Python 1.5.1 (#2, Jan 26 1999, 10:47:10) [GCC 2.7.2.3] on linux2 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam >>> import Main, ZPublisher >>> ZPublisher.Main('') Status: 200 OK X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org) Python (www.python.org) Content-Length: 35 Content-Type: text/plain <Application instance at 0x811a0f8> ____________________________________________________________ >>> This is essentially asking for the 'index_html' method of the root folder (like http://host.com/) Since I dont have an index_html method, it's give the str representation of root object, which is an object of type 'Application'. You can also specify more arguments to Main(): "u='userid:passwd'" as the userid and password (for Basic auth, doesn't work for cookies, that's a bit of a bugger). and "d=1" for real time debugging, or "pm=1" for post mortem debugging. > > Also, with ZPublisher, is it possible to publish methods of an object > without having PATH_INFO stuff set, based on different pcgi > info files? Ie, > http://www.domain.com/dir/index.cgi should publish > mymodule.myobject.index_cgi, > http://www.domain.com/dir/form.cgi should publish > mymodule.myobject.form_cgi, etc. > Uhm. I don't quite get your question. Clarification? -Michel > Thanks, > > -Tony > > > ---------------- > Tony Lownds > tony(a)printra.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Zope questions?
by Tony Lownds 24 May '99

24 May '99

I remember seeing a utility to get zope objects from the command line - what archive is that in now? Also, with ZPublisher, is it possible to publish methods of an object without having PATH_INFO stuff set, based on different pcgi info files? Ie, http://www.domain.com/dir/index.cgi should publish mymodule.myobject.index_cgi, http://www.domain.com/dir/form.cgi should publish mymodule.myobject.form_cgi, etc. Thanks, -Tony ---------------- Tony Lownds tony(a)printra.net

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FYI: Open Source business article...
by Paul Everitt 24 May '99

24 May '99

...from the Washington Business Journal, spotlighting Digital Creations, is now online at: http://www.amcity.com/washington/stories/1999/05/24/focus4.html FYI, I am collecting the mentions at: http://www.zope.org/Information/Media --Paul Paul Everitt Digital Creations paul(a)digicool.com 540.371.6909 ----------------------------------------- The Open Source Zope application server http://www.zope.org/ -----------------------------------------

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RE: [Zope] ZOPE, Medusa and the ZD WebBench 3.0 test suite...
by Michel Pelletier 24 May '99

24 May '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Pavlos Christoforou [mailto:pavlos@gaaros.msrc.sunysb.edu] > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 1:41 PM > To: Jim Salmons > Cc: Chris Petrilli; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] ZOPE, Medusa and the ZD WebBench 3.0 test suite... > > > On Mon, 24 May 1999, Jim Salmons wrote: > > > > Despite whatever we and Twain may think about benchmarks in > general, from a > > marketing/sales standpoint saying "We don't believe in > benchmarks and none > > are appropriate for our technology," does not go over very well with > > potential client/customers. (Nor do non-standard tests go > over well since > > they don't allow "comparative shopping.") > > > > My experience is that it is much better to at least subject > yourself to such > > "standard benchmarks" and have a compelling "footnotes and > explanations" to > > address any mismatch between your technology and an > industry benchmark. > > > > I would agree with Chris that benchmarks are generally biased > but you are > right they are essential for marketing purposes. So why not give them > marketing non-sense ;-) I mean run medusa, just pure medusa no Zope to > serve static html pages, and even better cache the pages in > memory. It is > Zope's web server after all. > > Talking nonsense > Nothing nonsensical about it Pavlos, this is exactly the underhanded, rediculous types of methods other companies use to benchmark their products. In fact, this would probably be the *correct* way of benchmarking ZServer from a benchmark expert's POV. After all, to a person like that, Zope would be the backend and not really germain to the 'serving' nature of ZServer. Any other discussion along dynamic content lines goes straight into the "What is Dynamic? What is Content?" discussion. I'm sure ZD net and everybody else has an answer to that question, and I'm sure each answer is wildly different, will require a different benchmark, and all system will perform quite differently between them. Everybody's looking for the hard line in a world of soft planes. I'm also of the opinion that Zope and even other Open Source tools don't show up on these popular 'unbiased benchmarks' because we don't pay for advertising in those magazines. Quite simply, they don't know who we are because they are quite busy with the people they know and love so well, the one's who provide their paycheck. I don't think they are intentionally *excluding* products like Zope, but I have no doubt that there is an implicit preference to please the money. Hey, I please the money too. -Michel the comercialy bitter > > Pavlos > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] ZOPE, Medusa and the ZD WebBench 3.0 test suite...
by Chris Petrilli 24 May '99

24 May '99

Lies, damn lies and benchmarks. -Samuel Clements via me. > My question, and the one I expect is on many of your minds, > is... How does a > ZOPE/Medusa server config stack up? My hope and expectation that the > underlying Medusa architecture might really shine when compared to the > pre-allocating multi-process approach of Apache, etc. Well, this is for lack of a better statement, irrelevent to Zope. They are asking (last I looked) for a static-page system, with some tiny CGIs, but this isn't really what Zope is about. EVERY page is Zope is dynamic, so if you compared a 100% CGI site with Zope, then it *might* be a valid comparison, if you also pulled all the data out of a database on the fly as well... IMPORTANT: The only benchmark that matters is the one that is your application, and on that, Zope excells. As for asyncronous v. threading/forking servers. Zeus, which is the fastest 'static' web server int he world, and what everyone uses for benchmarking on UNIX is also an asyncronous server. Different servers have different behaviours. One of the common problems with IIS v. Apache/etc is that Apache isn't tuned to saturate a small number of clients (which is all they are simulating) with very big pipes, but instead, a huge number of clients with smaller bandwidth (what the Internet really looks like). Also, IIS4 runs a "cache" inside the server, which you could simulate iwth Squid, or some such... One must be careful comparing the flavor of two things sold as oranges when one is distinctly shaped like a pumpkin. Chris -- | Christopher Petrilli Digital Creations | petrilli(a)digicool.com http://www.digicool.com

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