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building Zope on AIX
by Keith Rohrer 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

Does anyone have any experience attempting this? I'm not asking for support for Zope on AIX, just for support for the build system. ;-) Building from the source distribution, having built my own Python 1.5.1 separately, mis-sets the "srcdir" variable to ".", from the perspective of a linking script found in $PYTHONHOME/lib/python-1.5/config. This makes the .o files not get linked into shared libraries. Alas, hard-coding paths didn't get me a success. So I tried the binary porting kit, and it was worse. It made its own python, then installed it as local/bin/python-1.5 and later tried to invoke it as local/bin/python. I never did get it to work, as there were numerous problems at the "can't build Makefile" level, and several core dumps from /bin/sh(!). One problem that there's little excuse for, when building from your standard source distro: Compiling extensions in lib/python make -f Makefile.pre.in boot PYTHON=/home/kwr/bin/python [...snip...] gcc -g -O2 -I/home/kwr/include/python1.5 -I/home/kwr/include/python1.5 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I../Components/ExtensionClass -c ./../Components/ExtensionClass/ExtensionClass.c ./ld_so_aix gcc ExtensionClass.o -o ExtensionClass.so make: ./ld_so_aix: Command not found make: *** [ExtensionClass.so] Error 127 make clean rm -f *.o *~ (1) Hey! You failed to make the shared object! Stop! (2) Hey!!! You failed!!! Don't clean up the evidence!!! (3) ld_so_aix is in the $PYTHON_HOME/lib/python1.5/config directory; the "." in "./ld_so_aix" comes from $(srcdir). Dunno who's wrong here. Keith (at least Python seemed to build OK)

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Kudos to Zope
by Robert Leftwich 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

I just want to say what a great product Zope is and offer congratulations to all who have helped out in it's development and to the people at Digital Creations for making it freely available. I needed to have a useable first version of a Web application completed in a very short amount of time and could not have achieved it without Zope. Despite never having written a line of HTML or Python code prior to starting the project, I was able to deliver a Web data-entry/capture application packaged as a Zope Product in less than a week (approx. 60 hrs - which is an average working week in this industry isn't' it :-). The app has 10 major classes, a couple of support classes/functions and 30 screens in addition to the standard Zope management screens. I think having an extensive OO/C++ background helped me to get up to speed, but the excellent framework provided by Zope coupled with the productivity of Python and DTML, made it possible. In fact an experienced Zope programmer could have done the job in 2/3 to 1/2 the time as I spent a lot of time wrestling with HTML/DTML code to get the layout right. Not only is the Zope/Python environment productive but it is also FUN ! All in all a great product, well done. Robert Leftwich Digital Innovations

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RE: [Zope] Q: Howto create a different tree element ?
by Michel Pelletier 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Shaw, Howard [mailto:ShawH@STHS.org] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 4:55 PM > To: 'johanc(a)torped.se' > Cc: 'Zope(a)zope.org' > Subject: RE: [Zope] Q: Howto create a different tree element ? > > > It is indeed possible to add a custom tag from a product. I used this > technique in my Counter product. I copied the technique from the > Calender product (I don't remember off hand who created that), which > implements a seriously powerful tag. It (the Calendar product) is > available from the Zope contributions download page, and demonstrates > how to construct a tag which can contain DTML to be rendered per > iteration, as well as how to create variables to be made available to > the inner DTML, much like the 'in' tag. > This is, in fact, how most tags work. Check out: http://www.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/1999-April/000317.html Which is a rough draft (thank for the comments, BTW!) -Michel > Howard C. Shaw III > Programmer/SysAdmin > St. Thomas High School > >

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RE: [Zope] Q: Howto create a different tree element ?
by Shaw, Howard 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

It is indeed possible to add a custom tag from a product. I used this technique in my Counter product. I copied the technique from the Calender product (I don't remember off hand who created that), which implements a seriously powerful tag. It (the Calendar product) is available from the Zope contributions download page, and demonstrates how to construct a tag which can contain DTML to be rendered per iteration, as well as how to create variables to be made available to the inner DTML, much like the 'in' tag. Howard C. Shaw III Programmer/SysAdmin St. Thomas High School > ---------- > From: Johan Carlsson[SMTP:johanc@torped.se] > Reply To: johanc(a)torped.se > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 12:59 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] Q: Howto create a different tree element ? > > > > > Hi Gregor, > I'm about to do the exactly same thing. > Maybe we can work together on this one? > > I have tried using DTML to solve this but i'm > slowly getting to the conclusion that its too much > a hussle to get it working. > > Mayby subclassing the tree-tag removing the > stuff that we don't need could be a way to try. > but I'm not sure if it's possible to add custom > tag from a product? > > If you have any bright ideas I'm all ears. > > Best Regards, > Johan Carlsson > > > > I need a navigation element for tree-like structures, but with a > different > > rendering (no collapsing/expanding, different font sizes for the > various > > depths etc.). I could try and write that thing from scratch, but > > given that > > most of its interface is similar to the TreeDisplay code, I wonder > what > > would be the zopisticated way to reuse the interface and as much > code as > > possible. > > > > Perhaps a similar question is: given that TreeDisplay is a > > builtin DTML tag, > > should I try to augment the TreeDisplay code, or is there a > reasonable way > > to build user-defined DTML tags, or is it more reasonable to > > employ traditional > > methods (e.g. var-exprs) for this ? > > > > Gregor > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > Denna lista drivs av Torped Marknadskommunikation AB > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Sort variable within the 'IN' tag
by Wombat Harness the Third 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

Hey there, Is there any way of using a variable passed through on the query string to specify what the in command is sorted on, i just get an error if i try to use any type of variable... Any help would be appreciated, Cheers, Phil. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Meaningful Error Messages from External Methods?
by Chad McDaniel 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

I've found that debugging external methods in Zope is rather annoying since the only info Zope gives me is ---  --- which looks like it didn't understand the error itself, either. Does anyone have any techniques to help with external method debugging? thanks -- -chad

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Restricting access via IP address?
by Paul Browning 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

I'm moving up the learning curve with Zope and have skimmed the archives of this list and other documentation so forgive me if the answer to this question is blindingly obvious (because I've got a feeling I'm missing something fundamental here) but .... .... how do I limit visibility of Zope-served pages by IP address? I guess using an if tag and REMOTE_ADDR is one of of doing it but it seems sort of kludgey when Zope seems to have most of the intranet-type bases covered. Many TIAs Paul Browning -- The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK E-mail: paul.browning(a)bris.ac.uk URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/

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RE: [Zope] Q: Howto create a different tree element ?
by Johan Carlsson 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

Hi Gregor, I'm about to do the exactly same thing. Maybe we can work together on this one? I have tried using DTML to solve this but i'm slowly getting to the conclusion that its too much a hussle to get it working. Mayby subclassing the tree-tag removing the stuff that we don't need could be a way to try. but I'm not sure if it's possible to add custom tag from a product? If you have any bright ideas I'm all ears. Best Regards, Johan Carlsson > I need a navigation element for tree-like structures, but with a different > rendering (no collapsing/expanding, different font sizes for the various > depths etc.). I could try and write that thing from scratch, but > given that > most of its interface is similar to the TreeDisplay code, I wonder what > would be the zopisticated way to reuse the interface and as much code as > possible. > > Perhaps a similar question is: given that TreeDisplay is a > builtin DTML tag, > should I try to augment the TreeDisplay code, or is there a reasonable way > to build user-defined DTML tags, or is it more reasonable to > employ traditional > methods (e.g. var-exprs) for this ? > > Gregor > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > Denna lista drivs av Torped Marknadskommunikation AB

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Zope site testimonials needed
by Marquess E.. Lewis 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

We are wrapping up a trade study trying to make a platform decision for our web publishing environment. Zope is one of the top contenders (the other is very, very expensive) but I need to see some more examples of complex zope-hosted sites. I've visited those listed in the testimonials on zope.org but I need more. The written testimonials are outstanding but I've got to be able to show things to my management. Here is the carrot: our budget is not small. We can put a lot of resources into this and the Zope community should benefit as a whole. Submissions to the zope list or the email address below are greatly appreciated. Marquess markl(a)shore.net

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RE: [Zope] File size
by Shaw, Howard 19 Apr '99

19 Apr '99

I am speaking of the EXT2FS limitation of 2 gig per file. I would expect to reach it long before reaching a 2 billion object limit. Will ZODB3 be separable? Howard C. Shaw III Programmer/SysAdmin St. Thomas High School > ---------- > From: Michel Pelletier[SMTP:michel@digicool.com] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 8:59 AM > To: Shaw, Howard; 'Zope(a)zope.org' > Subject: RE: [Zope] File size > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shaw, Howard [mailto:ShawH@STHS.org] > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 9:37 AM > > To: 'Zope(a)zope.org' > > Subject: [Zope] File size > > > > > > Is it possible to split a Zope database into multiple files, while > > retaining conceptual unity? I don't like the thought that I > > am bound by > > a 2 gig restriction on my web site. > > Hmm.. there is no built in restriction to 2gig on the object database, > there is however a 2 billion *object* restriction. Is this some sort > of > OS restriction on file size your pointing out? > > In either case, both restrictions will be removed with the > introduction > of ZODB3 (formerly know as BoboPOS). In addition to introducing > multiple stores and threadability, the 2 billion object restriction > will > be lifted because we're moving from 23 to 64 bit OIDs. > > -Michel > > > Howard C. Shaw III > > Programmer/SysAdmin > > St. Thomas High School > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > >

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