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Re: [Zope] Zope in Virtual Host on ISP
by Chris Larson 02 Feb '99

02 Feb '99

On 2/1/99 6:46 PM , Jeff Bauer jbauer(a)rubic.com said: >Zope is first attempting to find ZPublisher, and then (for backward >compatibility with Bobo) trying to find cgi_module_publisher. Here's >my suggestion. Drop pcgifile.py into your cgi-bin directory after: > >1. modifying it's #!/usr/local/bin/python header, if necessary >2. applying the following patch attached below. > >Is there any possibility you have an old copy of Bobo or pcgi >somewhere in your path? > >I realize how frustrating setting up pcgi can be, which is >why I wrote pcgifile.py in the first place. For more info, >see http://starship.skyport.net/crew/jbauer/persistcgi/ >or email me privately. Good luck. Jeff, Thanks for the help and the patch. At least now I get 'from ZPublisher import publish_module' instead of cgi_ module_publisher... And from what i can tell, my problem seems to stem from the fact that my ISP has PyApache applied with an ancient Python. pcgifile.py has been showing me Python 1.4, and now I think I should finally pay attention. Seems they also are running an older Apache, so I may have my work cut out for me convincing 'em to change. Next question: Can anyone tell me if there is a way to by pass PyApache, or even if in fact the version number I'm seeing is actually Python or perhaps sumthin' weird PyApache tosses out? pcgifile.py output shown below. Thanks again Chris ---------- Python 1.4 (Feb 4 1997) [GCC 2.7.2.1] Apache/1.2b11-dev IOCOM/2.0.v PHP/2.0b11 PyApache/2.25 PCGI info file: Zope.cgi PCGI wrapper: /--deleted--/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/pcgi/pcgi-wrapper error attempting: 'from ZPublisher import publish_module' status: FAILURE Zope.cgi #!/--deleted--/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/pcgi/pcgi-wrapper PCGI_EXE=/--deleted--/local/bin/python PCGI_PUBLISHER=/--deleted--/local/lib/python1.5/pcgi_publisher.py PCGI_MODULE_PATH=/--deleted--/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/lib/python/Main.py PCGI_SOCKET_FILE=/--deleted--/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/var/pcgi.soc PCGI_PID_FILE=/--deleted--/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/var/pcgi.pid PCGI_ERROR_LOG=/--deleted--/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/var/pcgi.log PCGI_NAME=Main PCGI_DISPLAY_ERRORS=1 BOBO_REALM=Zope BOBO_DEBUG_MODE=1 INSTANCE_HOME=/--deleted--/local/Zope-1.9.0-src PCGI_INSERT_PATH=/--deleted--/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/lib/python/

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Bobo/realm?
by John Eikenberry 02 Feb '99

02 Feb '99

Bobo related question here (yes, I'm still using it). I'm using bobo-2.1.4, pcgi, apache 1.3.3 (with the rewriterule trick for authentication and using a virtualhost), on a linux box (redhat-5.1). I can't seem to set the realm. I have... __bobo_realm__=members set in my top level module (the one referred to in the pcgi file), but my realm always stays 'unknown'. I also tried setting it like Zope does (via the BOBO_REALM environmental setting in the pcgi-file), but this didn't work either. Any tips... --- John Eikenberry [jae(a)taos.kavi.com - http://taos.kavi.com/~jae/] ______________________________________________________________ "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will deserve neither and lose both." --B. Franklin

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Re: [Zope] Zope in Virtual Host on ISP
by Chris Larson 02 Feb '99

02 Feb '99

--deleted tons-o-relevance - Refer to thread for context-- Aargh! Seems like no matter what I do, I can't get past: --------- Mon Feb 1 17:42:43 1999 unable to import publish_module from ZPublisher Traceback (innermost last): File "/--directory-deleted--/Zope-1.9.0-src/pcgi/pcgi_publisher.py", line 166, in initPCGI ImportError: No module named cgi_module_publisher Mon Feb 1 17:42:56 1999 pcgi-wrapper: No such file or directory (102) failure during connect --------- Actually, it's more 'from cgi_module_publisher import publish_module'. I feel like if I see this one more time, I gonna jump off something. Fortunately, in Austin I'd have to drive somewhere for sufficient height to do any real damage. I guess the UT Tower would do. It's a good thing I'm in no mood to drive. <cha-grin> This is the farthest I seem to be able to get. As I mentioned before, I dream of the day I'm asked to authenticate. The pcgifile.py sanity checker, the pcgi.log file, the command-line pcgi output, everyhere this b*st*rd 'cgi_module_publisher' thumbs his nose at me. I realize I'm not giving much background here, but I'm kinda hoping this error is a known-problem/indicator-of-such. Any ideas? Thanks again for taking the time to help out, Chris

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Re: [Zope] quick question for some Zope wizard out there :)
by Plamen Nikolaev 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

David Wagle <David.A.Wagle(a)HealthPartners.Com> writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Ok - the idea here is to simply populate a two column table with > values culled from the property proc_platform, which is a set of > tokens. > > it doesn't work as written, and gives the error message which > follows. What am I doing incorrectly? (besides trying to pretend to > be a Zope programmer :) > >  > <FORM> > <TABLE> > >  > I think you should try  unless no is defined somewhere (note the quotes), and I think this would work in a #with not in a #var.

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How to set an Expires header?
by skip＠calendar.com 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

I have a search function that sets the expires header of the RESPONSE: def search(RESPONSE, performers=None, keywords=None, venue="", event="", city="", state="", country="", date="", age=10000, radius=0, repeat="once", format="text", editor="", email="", start=0, nhits=20, REQUEST=None): """Musi-Cal search function""" ... RESPONSE.setHeader('Expires', time.strftime("%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT", time.gmtime(time.time()))) return _search_tmpl(..., REQUEST=REQUEST, RESPONSE=RESPONSE, ...) but I don't see any expires header in the response: HTTP/1.0 200 OK Server: Medusa/1.4 Content-Length: 30605 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:46:55 GMT Am I doing something wrong or am I encountering a wart on ZServer? I haven't tried ZopeHTTPServer, but that will be my step. Skip Montanaro | Mojam: "Uniting the World of Music" http://www.mojam.com/ skip(a)mojam.com | Musi-Cal: http://www.musi-cal.com/ 518-372-5583

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newbie question (repost)
by Quinn Dunkan 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

I posted this a while ago, but recieved no response, so I assume it either didn't make it, or everyone hates me. And if it's the latter, they'll hate me even more for reposting, but... such is life. Maybe someone could at least flame me so I know mail is working :) Well, I'm actually using Bobo right now, but this should be applicable to ZPublisher (here's a question: I understand that bobo users are encouraged to switch to ZPublisher... are there any "issues" to be aware of? Is there a document that describes how one might make such a switch as painless as possible? I'd like to use ZTemplate for cDocumentTemplate, but I'd probably have to use ExtensionClass with that. I suppose that's as easy as sticking the .so in my $PYTHONPATH and putting an import ExtensionClass in ZTemplate's __init__.py?). Anyway, I've been messing around with Bobo for a while now, and have a few questions: I have a few email forms that I want a method to pretty up and send to the appropriate person. Here's how I'm doing it now, but I know there's a Right Way that involves dtml and all that. I await enlightenment, RTFM, etc. How I did it (after finding out about REQUEST), was to write a mail(form_name, REQUEST) function that looks for a function named form_name and passes it REQUEST.form, then mails the string returned. form_name is communicated via a hidden <input> in each form. Ok, so this all seems fairly zope-zenful, but my prettification functions seem to be asking for dtml or something. My current approach is to say: def mr_form(a): msg = untab("""\ %(name)s %(email)s %(comments)s """) return msg % MsgDict(a) Where MsgDict wraps a dictionary except returns "fieldname: value" when it finds the value and "fieldname: (not given)" when it doesn't. Now this doesn't work when things get marginally more complicated, so if I want an address printed out right, and not like address: 123 road city: centerville (a great place to raise your kids up) state: etc. I did this: def mr_form(a): msg = untab("""\ %(name)s Address: %(adress)s %(city)s, %(state)s %(zip code)s """) dict = {} for i in "address", "city", "state", "zip code", "country": if dict.has_key(i): dict[i] = dict[i] else: dict[i] = "(no %s given)" % i return format(msg % UnionDict(dict, MsgDict(a))) which is worse yet, but works. UnionDict overlays dictionaries by looking in each one successively, and format() breaks lines over 70 columns. Ok, so what's the right way to do this? I may seem stupid for recreating all sorts of functionality that may already exist in dtml, but I read and read and read the docs and source-code (even the howto on zope.org for "Creating a Mail Form", but it assumed I was using full-fledged zope, which I'm not (I'm just the cgi programmer, I can't switch the whole site to zope even if I'd like to)). I imagine there are a lot of people in my situation who aren't designing a brand new site from scratch but would still like to use ZPublisher/ZTemplate without all the other stuff. I think it would be useful to have a clearly marked portion of the docs that say "These pertain to ZP/ZT-only sites." The stuff in "Zope Developer Information" (basically the old bobo docs) would be good there, perhaps with less scary names. I think it's great that zope components can be used seperately. Here's another question: I know dtml supports both html-comment-like and python string-like syntax, but everyone seems to use the html-comment. I prefer python syntax since it looks less cluttered to me (and I think it's a good thing that my dtmls don't resemble ssi)... is there any particular reason to use one over the other, or is it purely personal preference? (And why does everyone seem to prefer the (ugly, IMHO) html-comment syntax?) Also, my thought regarding the "dtml tags look like html comments so it's hard to write them in html editors" discussion is why not use python-string syntax? It has no relation to xml, but dtml is really sort of a meta-language anyway, isn't it? And at least no editor is going to mistake a python-string for html or xml. One of the things Bobo/ZPublisher touts is the ease of using things like pcgi, fcgi, etc. I've been using fcgi, but I wasn't able to find a cgi-template style script for it, so I wrote my own. Granted, it was trivial (provided I did it right), but it would still be nice if it was included, or the documentation said where I could download it. Actually, it's not being that trivial. The problem I'm having with fcgi is that scripts are persistant, like pcgi. That means when you fix a bug you have to restart the script before it shows up. Which is a problem when the script is run by the httpd server and you have no permission to send signals to it. Perhaps I'm once again missing the obvious solution that must be there, but I had my fcgi-module-publisher look for a file with the same name as the script in a "semaphores" directory, and exit when it sees that. Ugly, but it works. I'm investigating zope proper, but I have trouble finding where the content actually _is_! I guess it's all pickled in the var directory and in various dtml / python source lying around, but I'm much more comfortable editing python and dtml with vim than filling out web forms / downloading stuff developed off-line. I guess ZServer's ftp server ought to make this a bit nicer, but I thought a nifty solution would be to write zope as a filesystem server, and then it could do all sorts of stuff not related to the www. Of course, unix is not very friendly to this sort of thing, we'd need something like plan9 or qnx or vsta :) thanks!

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quick question for some Zope wizard out there :)
by David Wagle 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ok - the idea here is to simply populate a two column table with values culled from the property proc_platform, which is a set of tokens. it doesn't work as written, and gives the error message which follows. What am I doing incorrectly? (besides trying to pretend to be a Zope programmer :)  <FORM> <TABLE>   <TR> <TD> <INPUT TYPE="checkbox" name="test1" value="" >   </TD>   </TD> </TR>    </TABLE> </FORM>  ! System Unavailable This site is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please contact the site administrator for more information. For additional technical information, please refer to the HTML source for this page. Thank you for your patience. Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 879, in publish_module File /usr/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 595, in publish (Info: /UnixSystem/Procedures/test) File /usr/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/lib/python/OFS/Document.py, line 181, in __call__ (Object: test) File /usr/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/lib/python/OFS/Document.py, line 177, in __call__ (Object: test) File /usr/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 514, in __call__ (Object: test) File /usr/local/Zope-1.9.0-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line 268, in eval (Object: _.namespace(even=no)) File <string>, line 0, in ? NameError: (see above) - ------------------------------------------------- A computer system without Microsoft products is like a dog without bricks chained to its head. - ------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNrXjHNtGhckXZmDjEQLKxQCffTPbF7TvJolqGs48t7/uctBqUhIAn33i wjwEkuPHVWANYMbrzvgD6jU9 =ypSg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Zope] Zope in Virtual Host on ISP
by Chris Larson 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

On 1/31/99 2:53 PM , Kevin Dangoor kid(a)ans.net said: >On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 01:24:24PM -0600, Chris Larson wrote: >,----- >| OK. Here's the deal. Can someone tell me what issues I face trying to >| install Zope in my ISP-hosted virtual Apache. I have no access to root, >| and have been through much pain and suffering trying to get the thing >| installed. Ideally, a step-by-step how-to is what I'm looking for, but >| I'd welcome anything up to and including "ya can't do that." >| >| NOTE: This is not an authentication question. I look forward to the day >| I'm asked to authenticate. <cha-grin> > >Actually, it's pretty straightforward, except for the authentication part. >The INSTALL.txt file (in the docs directory of the Zope distribution) >breaks it down to a nice set of steps. Assuming I can't convince my ISPs admin to help out (Or rather, that I'm too impatient to wait), is there a way around setting the var permission to 'nobody'? 'not permitted' at the moment. Rmemember, I do not have 'root' access. >If there is something unclear in that doc, you may want to send a note >to the list asking about that specifically. (The DC guys have been >working hard to improve the docs). I'll do so. >As far as authentication, you are going to want to ask your ISP if they've >got mod_rewrite installed. You can use Zope without mod_rewrite, but >(to me) it seems like a pain, because you have to maintain a user list >for the webserver (in .htpasswd) and another copy of the user list (in >the User Folders) in Zope. Is there a way for me to determine this by calling or examining Apache? >| Alternatively, I could prolly ask the admin to install it for me, but to >| be honest, I'm not even sure what to ask. I'm relatively comfortable in >| unix, but haven't dealt with Apache much at all, aside from uploading >| pages and cgis. > >Is python already installed there? If so, I really don't think you'll >run into much trouble... > On that note, when I run a simple python cgi to return the sys.version of python, I get "Python 1.4 (Feb 4 1997) [GCC 2.7.2.1]". It appears they do have PyApache installed. Am I getting a PyApache version number? When I 'locate python' all that shows up is 1.5. Also, or maybe more to the point, is there any way to force Zope (or any other .cgi) to execute python from my user directory as my username? I've installed 1.5.2b1 in my local/bin, and suspect that a lot of my problems may be coming from the installed 1.5. When I place my user account directory as the path (/myaccount/local/bin/python), I end up with "500 Internal Server Error". Thanks for the prompt help. Chris

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Zope ORB question
by Pedro Lima 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

I'm still trying to understand the ORB mapping in Zope. I tried to do the following 1) call a document with http://localhost/zope/test?tipo=5 and now 'tipo' is variable of document 'test' 2) in document 'test' I make a query in a database and I put everything in a select box <select name=test>  <option value=>  </select> OK. This works. But if i want to put the option 'tipo' selected? This code fails because tipo is not in the query_test object. Is it possible to get the 'tipo' value inside the 'query_test' object? <select name=test>  <option  value=>  </select> Thanks for your attention pedro _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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date handling and MySQL
by Service Informatique CHSR 01 Feb '99

01 Feb '99

Hello, I'm looking for some examples of date handling with Zope and MySQL. for example, a DATETIME column under MySQL doesn't like the value from PrincipiaTime. Also, I'd like to input and display dates in french format (dd/mm/yyyy) instead of english format (yyyy/mm/dd), given the fact that mysql stores the date If someone could send me some example of their (python/dtml) code... Many thanks. Jephte CLAIN, Service Informatique CHSR

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