December 1998 - Zope

RE: [Zope] - Concept Questions
by Dave Goodrich 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

On Wed, 09 Dec 1998, Jeff Bauer scratched: >>> I realize this list for the Zope beta, would anyone >> object if I post some conceptual questions on Zope, >> such as "can Zope" "should Zope" will Zope"? or should >> I send them directly to Digicool and reserve this >> list for startup questions only? > >Not speaking for Digital Creations, but discussion is >encouraged on this list. This actually helps the Z guys >because it takes some of the load off them responding >to email. It helps if you can ground your questions in >pragmatic terms, however, such as Skip's recent calendar >thread. Most subscribers understood what Skip was trying >to accomplish and everyone benefited from the discussion. > >Best regards, > >Jeff Bauer >Rubicon, Inc. > I have read the suggested "new" Q&A page, it answered many questions for me. I sent the two questions I have to Paul for inclusion into the page for everyones benifit. Coolness. DAve.

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- DTML Secret Discovered
by Amos Latteier 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Pavlos Christoforou was the first to discover the secret DTML comment in the Zope site. Praise him for his inquisitiveness and diligence! And he gets a free autographed copy of Zope when it emerges from beta. -Amos P.S. There are no more easter eggs in the Zope site DTML that I am aware of right now. But Paul could be changing this as I speak.

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- Note to anyone using an older BoboPOS with Zope
by Michel Pelletier 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Well, if anyone was curious I found the problem that was causing my application object to disapear. Acutally Skip, your the one who posted this problem that made me figure it out (with a big DUH!) In the near past before Zope I tried out BoboPOS, but instead of reading the package docs and figuring that out I just dumped all the files into my /lib/python1.5/ dir. Now, when my programs import the Persistent class the *old* way (the new way way, of course, for me to discover later) import Persistence it loaded the old Persistence class, instead of the *new* one which is properly loaded import BoboPOS.Persistence this is why I was getting __class__ name errors in the TJar.py component. Obviously the older objects don't work with the new long running transactions that TJar gives us. This is a subtle error, if your custom objects give the above error, you are using an old version of the Persistence.Persistent class with the new version of the POS. Is there a way this can be made to fail quite obviously? Michel

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Re: [Zope] - How to pronounce Zope?
by Michael Scharf 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Jeff Bauer wrote: > > Posted 11/29/98 ... > > Web coding blues? Don't Mope > Don't slip down that CGI Slope > You tried ASP without a Rope > You reach for Perl, you Grope > Gonna write Perl code? Nope! > > You're out of Hope? > Don't be a Dope! > Here's a product to help you Cope > It's an object publishing Trope > A new web system, now called 'Zope' > > with-apologies-to-rap-artists-everywhere-ly yr's, > > Jeff "Mastaman" Bauer Great!!!!! Michael -- ''''\ Michael Scharf ` c-@@ TakeFive Software ` > http://www.TakeFive.com \_ V mailto:Michael_Scharf@TakeFive.co.at

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RE: [Zope] - Concept Questions
by Jeff Bauer 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

> I realize this list for the Zope beta, would anyone > object if I post some conceptual questions on Zope, > such as "can Zope" "should Zope" will Zope"? or should > I send them directly to Digicool and reserve this > list for startup questions only? Not speaking for Digital Creations, but discussion is encouraged on this list. This actually helps the Z guys because it takes some of the load off them responding to email. It helps if you can ground your questions in pragmatic terms, however, such as Skip's recent calendar thread. Most subscribers understood what Skip was trying to accomplish and everyone benefited from the discussion. Best regards, Jeff Bauer Rubicon, Inc.

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RE: [Zope] - Concept Questions
by Paul Everitt 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Dave wrote: > I realize this list for the Zope beta, would anyone object if > I post some > conceptual questions on Zope, such as "can Zope" "should > Zope" will Zope"? > or should I send them directly to Digicool and reserve this > list for startup > questions only? Howdy sir. Take a look at the unpublished: http://www.zope.org/Information/QA2 I know the formatting is a little broken, and Jeff Bauer kindly added some stuff to PCGI. But I realize I'm too close to Bobo/Principia/Zope to realize whether I have the right questions. Right answers, obviously, are optional :^) So, please send me (privately) your list of questions that I overlooked. I'll try to get that up tomorrow. --Paul

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- How to pronounce Zope?
by Michael Scharf 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

A non-native speaker question: How would you pronounce Zope? Like 'zone' with a P or like 'zoo + pee' or??? Michael -- ''''\ Michael Scharf ` c-@@ TakeFive Software ` > http://www.TakeFive.com \_ V mailto:Michael_Scharf@TakeFive.co.at

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- Concept Questions
by Dave Goodrich 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Thanks all for help getting me running with zope. It's always the little things that get ya ain't it? I realize this list for the Zope beta, would anyone object if I post some conceptual questions on Zope, such as "can Zope" "should Zope" will Zope"? or should I send them directly to Digicool and reserve this list for startup questions only? Thanks, DAve.

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- Vote for Zope Logos
by Amos Latteier 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Help us decide on a logo for Zope. http://www.zope.org/Community/Projects/LogoVoter Vote for your favorite and least favorite logos using a primitive DTML voting app Brian whipped up in 45 minutes. Thanks. -Amos P.S. We're not actively soliciting Logos, but if you have an idea send it on in. P.P.S. We'll hopefully get around to documenting examples like this soon. Until then view the source and learn.

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RE: [Zope] - zope jitterbug
by Alan Wostenberg 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Paul, we access Sybase through ODBC drivers, so it sounds like Aqueduct is the ticket for our Zope front end to the legacy system. Time to look untar Zope and kick some tires, Thanks, -Alan Wostenberg Baan Front Office, Golden, Colorado > Finally, turns out we have a calltracck system (Scopus) with > a poor user > interface. > > It's hosted in Sybase. I note Zope has various SQL > interfaces. Do you think > it's an adequate tool to put a nice web front end on a legacy tracking > system via SQL? Paul: > Sybase on what platform? > > We find the SQL integration (formerly known as Aqueduct) in Zope to be > pretty spiffy. And it is decently documented...not the programming > stuff, but certainly building web front ends to databases.

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