May 1999 - Zope - Zope lists

Re: [Zope] setting passwords
by Bill Randle 15 May '99

15 May '99

On May 15, 5:11pm, Paul Everitt wrote: } Subject: RE: [Zope] setting passwords } } Howard wrote: } > Bill wrote: } > > I kept wondering why I never saw a box to set the user } > password, then I } > > finally discovered it was because I'm accessing the } > management interface } > > from a remote system (i.e. not the system Zope is installed } > on). The web } > > server box Zope is installed on does not have an operating } > X server, so } > > even if I physically went to that machine, I still couldn't fire up } > > Netscape to set the passwords. } > } > Not sure what you're problem is here. I can set passwords } > from any netscape. } } I _think_ this might mean the server is using .htpasswd for the } passwords. Zope has a hack, created for folks that just can't get their } web server to pass along authentication information, to let the web } server handle authentication. } } If that mode is on, it might be the reason you can't set the password. } } Sorry I'm not more helpful :^( } } --Paul }-- End of excerpt from Paul Everitt Is this mode what is indicated by 'remote_user_mode__'? What made me suspect remote access vs. local access was the use of this variable in addUser.dtml as in:  <INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="password" value="password"> <INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="confirm" value="password">  <TR> <TD VALIGN="TOP"> <STRONG>Password</STRONG> </TD> <TD VALIGN="TOP"> <INPUT TYPE="PASSWORD" NAME="password" SIZE="40"> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD VALIGN="TOP"> <STRONG>(Confirm)</STRONG> </TD> <TD VALIGN="TOP"> <INPUT TYPE="PASSWORD" NAME="confirm" SIZE="40"> </TD> </TR>  I followed the instructions and suggestions previously posted on this list for setting up the Apache access.conf file: RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.*) RewriteRule ^/Zope/Gamba_home/(.*) /var/www/titan/markgamba.com/Zope.cgi/Gamba_home/$1 [e=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l] ^^^ above is one long line ^^^ <Directory "/var/www/titan/markgamba.com"> Options Includes FollowSymLinks ExecCGI </Directory> Is this not correct? -Bill

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RE: [Zope] Edit ZClass methods with FTP?
by Paul Everitt 15 May '99

15 May '99

Janko wrote: > OK I have come along with the example and build now my own classes. I > have uploaded a DTML-method into the ClassFolder in the Product > area. I can't see this method if I log in with FTP. I also don't see > propertysheets/ and propertysheets/methods/ , these are methods, > right? > > Is it possible to go to the DTML in the ZClass with FTP at all? Not all Zope objects have the methods that respond to FTP requests. For instance, what should happen if you FTP into a SQL Method? Are you saying that you can't get to the _class_ via FTP or an _instance_ of the class? --Paul

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RE: [Zope] setting passwords
by Paul Everitt 15 May '99

15 May '99

Howard wrote: > Bill wrote: > > I kept wondering why I never saw a box to set the user > password, then I > > finally discovered it was because I'm accessing the > management interface > > from a remote system (i.e. not the system Zope is installed > on). The web > > server box Zope is installed on does not have an operating > X server, so > > even if I physically went to that machine, I still couldn't fire up > > Netscape to set the passwords. > > Not sure what you're problem is here. I can set passwords > from any netscape. I _think_ this might mean the server is using .htpasswd for the passwords. Zope has a hack, created for folks that just can't get their web server to pass along authentication information, to let the web server handle authentication. If that mode is on, it might be the reason you can't set the password. Sorry I'm not more helpful :^( --Paul

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Edit ZClass methods with FTP?
by jhauser＠ifm.uni-kiel.de 15 May '99

15 May '99

OK I have come along with the example and build now my own classes. I have uploaded a DTML-method into the ClassFolder in the Product area. I can't see this method if I log in with FTP. I also don't see propertysheets/ and propertysheets/methods/ , these are methods, right? Is it possible to go to the DTML in the ZClass with FTP at all? With regards, __Janko

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setting passwords
by Bill Randle 15 May '99

15 May '99

Is there an alternate way to set user passwords - other than the standard web acl_users management interface? I kept wondering why I never saw a box to set the user password, then I finally discovered it was because I'm accessing the management interface from a remote system (i.e. not the system Zope is installed on). The web server box Zope is installed on does not have an operating X server, so even if I physically went to that machine, I still couldn't fire up Netscape to set the passwords. There must be an alternate way to do this (without resorting to UserDB or SQL). I only need to enter two or three users. Help! -Bill Randle billr(a)coinet.com

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RE: [Zope] Zope under Linux -- duh?
by Alexander Staubo 15 May '99

15 May '99

I can't get Python 1.5.1/1.5.2 to compile with thread support, though: rm config.cache rm config.status configure --with-thread make clean make and I get an error in threadmodule.c asking for --with-thread. Silly, maybe I made a mistake somewhere? Interesting aside about my problem getting the precompiled Python binary to work (ie., the bin/python binary provided by the Zope download): As I mentioned earlier, I get a "Command not found "error" trying to run the file. Running "ldd python" to check which version of libc it uses, I get: ldd: can't execute ./python (No such file or directory) I can verify that the file _is_ there, though -- I can view it an' everything. -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "It has taken the planet Earth 4.5 billion years to discover it is 4.5 billion years old." --George Wald >-----Original Message----- >From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of >Jimmie Houchin >Sent: 15. mai 1999 20:59 >To: Alexander Staubo; Zope Mailing List (E-mail) >Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope under Linux -- duh? > > >Hello, > >When I was trying to get Zope running on my LinuxPPC machine >at home I ran >into the same problem. > >The default was Python 1.5.1 is installed/compiled at least on >my machine >and rpms is without threads. In order for my Python to have >threads I had >to compile it with the --with thread switch. Read the Python >source docs >for the exactly how to do it. > >On LinuxPPC R4.1 there is no thread.h, Python when compiled with thread >will build in thread support. > >Hope this helps. > >Jimmie Houchin > >At 06:03 AM 5/14/99 +0200, you wrote: >>And with 1.5.1 I still get the thread module error: >> >>tradecenter:/usr/local/zope# Traceback (innermost last): >> File "/usr/local/zope/ZServer/start.py", line 94, in ? >> from HTTPServer import zhttp_server, zhttp_handler >> File "/usr/local/zope/ZServer/HTTPServer.py", line 111, in ? >> >>tradecenter:/usr/local/zope# import thread >>ImportError: No module named thread >> >>Possibly because my Linux installation doesn't have a >thread.h. I don't >>know Linux well enough to say if this is correct. Afaik, the >machine is >>running glibc 1.x (libc5), not 2.x, and the Python installation info >>speaks of thread support in glibc 2.x. I don't know. >> >>Alexander Staubo >>http://www.mop.no/~alex/ >>mailto:redhand@mop.no >> >[snip] > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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ZClass
by Tom Deprez 15 May '99

15 May '99

Hi, Is it possible to hide a property of a parent in a child ZClass? (or give it a fixed value, meaning that this child can't change this property) Tom.

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ZClass hitCounter
by Tom Deprez 15 May '99

15 May '99

Dummy me! I found the problem... I was putting a 'inc' DTML method in the product 'pHitCounter', instead of in it's class 'cHitCounter'. Shawn, no, I don't need a counter yet. I was really trying ZClasses out by creating a HitCounter... I came on the idea when viewing the DTML-demos. Q : Is this scenario possible : Is it possible to show a piece of a picture on a form? I.e. you've a picture in Zope and you want to copy a rectangular part from this picture so you can show it somewhere else (only that piece). Tom.

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Re: [Zope] Midgard
by Christopher Petrilli 15 May '99

15 May '99

> Careful with that Axe, Martijn! ;) Chris Petrelli brought up the point > just the other day that the ability to quicky and easily add objects to > the 'Add' menu can mean trouble. It is the opinion of some the add menu > is too big as it is. I'm sure many of you have sat down at a Windows > machine whose user didnt' organize their start menu very deep, and the > 'Programs' menu was pages upon pages of menu options all at the same > depth. In that particular case, we are talking about user error, but in > this case, it is a limitation of the web pulldown box widget (not really > a limitation of the existing widget, but the lack of a more complex > structured one). A'hoy! I knew Michel was up to something, my ears hurt... Seriously though, I think that there are some elegant ways to solve this. If only there were "cascading menus" in HTML ;-) > So this will require some thought. It is all good and cool that we can > create our own objects very quickly now, but it can get out of hand (you > should see my sandbox!) I've heard tell, "oh my gawd, where did I put that class?!?!?!?!" and yet there must be a better way. I will simply toss out that the idea of a better management interface is brewing, and the reality is that *soon* there will be some hefty overhauls into roles in the management interfaces that will I believe permit some elimination of this for MOST people who use the environment. All in due course! Money will of course, speed the process! Send your $100 bills to... >> Midgard's authentication system is fairly limited. I'd miss >> acquisition! > > Wouldn't we all. My take is it's more a "prebuilt" environment to do your PHP3 stuff in, but that doesn't make it an "application server" any more than a single ASP is an application server. That doesn't mean there aren't any neat ideas :-) Chris -- Christopher Petrilli Digital Creations petrilli(a)digicool.com

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zope graphics designers
by Jeff Bauer 15 May '99

15 May '99

Possibly off-topic suggestion follows ... Hi all. It has occurred to me that Digital Creations maintains a list of Zope-friendly ISP's, but no recommendations for Zope graphical design services. It's possible (though unlikely) that DC wants to stake out this area for itself. Assuming the opposite, how about providing a list of Zope-cognizant graphics designers? Basically, participants would need to know (or be willing to learn) the fundamentals of DTML, but this should not present too much of a barrier to entry. In the competitive business of graphics design, a distinguishing niche might provide participating designers with a useful advantage. Companies who may never otherwise have heard about a particular design firm might discover their services via Zope.org. It almost goes without saying (except I'm saying it anyway) that "Zope Certified" or somesuch designation advertised by graphics designers provides a slight boost for Zope. Sort of like what happens when an airline advertises about serving Starbucks coffee. Starbucks gets an unpaid endorsement implying the superiority of their product. Thoughts? Jeff Bauer Rubicon, Inc. P.S. It also goes without saying that Zope-aware graphics designers are superior to those who aren't. ;)

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