June 1999 - Zope - Zope lists

RE: [Zope] moving from 1.10.2 to 2.0.0a1
by Michel Pelletier 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel M. Drucker [mailto:dmd@3e.org] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 12:42 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] moving from 1.10.2 to 2.0.0a1 > > > > Another newbie question -- how can one upgrade from 1.10.2 to 2.0.0a1 > while retaining my data? > A conversion utility will be provided soon. It is inadvisable to do anything but play with 2.0.0a1, as it is very alpha. Expect an alpha2 soon, and a conversion utility possible with the beta and definatly with the final. > Hopefully, the documentation will be getting better soon... > (Is there a > need for documentation editors? I certainly can't *write* docs, as I'm > Zope-clueless, but I'm a professional editor and am good at rewriting > other people's language to be more understandable.) > We have just hired a technical writer, Pam Crosby. She has only been with us a week so far but we expect to get some great documentation out as soon as she's in the cycle. If you want to try your hand at some documentation and editing, you might want to check with the zdp folks (http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zdp) they have alot of work lined up for writing zope documentation. -Michel > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] Zap -- incorrect docs
by Michel Pelletier 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel M. Drucker [mailto:dmd@3e.org] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 1:43 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Zap -- incorrect docs > > > > Since I want to use apache so I can introduce a rewrite, I tried > downloading Zap. > > I was first unimpressed by the fact that the distribution tarball > contains several temporary editor files (#*# and *~)... > Yes this was many moons ago during my first explorations of emacs and CVS. Used to use 'ed' and the floppy system of revision control. > The instructions in README.txt state: > > > Be sure to run the './install' script that comes with Zope > so that it > > creates a 'Zope.cgi' file in the top level directory. > > However, I can't find this install script anywhere. > There is an 'install' script in the main Zope directory in the 1.10.2 release (you didn't mention what version of Zope you were trying). 1.10.2 is the released intended to be used with Zap. I'm not so sure about the 2.0.0a1 release, but Zap has not been tested or even looked at for 2.0.0a1 yet. We problaby won't throw any resources into making Zap work with 2.0.0 until it goes final, the idea being 1) we're busy writing 2.0.0, and 2) if your courageous enough to run alpha software then you know what your doing. In fact, I just set up a 1.10.2 release with Zap and it took just a few commands: [michel@spike Zap]$ zcat Zope-1.10.2-linux2-x86.tgz | tar xvf - [michel@spike Zap]$ mv Zope-1.10.2-linux2-x86 training [michel@spike Zap]$ cd training/ [michel@spike Zap]$ ./install [michel@spike training]$ zcat Zap-1.1.0-linux2-x86.tgz | tar xvf - [michel@spike Zap]$ cd Zap/ [michel@spike Zap]$ emacs conf/zap.conf customize to suite... [michel@spike Zap]$ ./startzap Apache started successfully. All good. -Michel > Daniel Drucker > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] Zap -- incorrect docs
by Michel Pelletier 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Michel Pelletier [mailto:michel@digicool.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 1:58 PM > To: 'Daniel M. Drucker'; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] Zap -- incorrect docs > > > > [michel@spike Zap]$ zcat Zope-1.10.2-linux2-x86.tgz | tar xvf - > [michel@spike Zap]$ mv Zope-1.10.2-linux2-x86 training > [michel@spike Zap]$ cd training/ > [michel@spike Zap]$ ./install > [michel@spike training]$ zcat Zap-1.1.0-linux2-x86.tgz | tar xvf - > [michel@spike Zap]$ cd Zap/ > [michel@spike Zap]$ emacs conf/zap.conf > Ooops. I should go to work for Microsoft, I'm to obvious in my faked simulations. My directories in the prompt didn't change right! I basicly arrowed up through my command history and copied these over, prompts and all, so they all look like they came from the same dir, when in reality it would have started one below training, gone into training, and then gone into Zap. This is still the correct series of commands, however. -Michel

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Zap -- incorrect docs
by Daniel M. Drucker 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Since I want to use apache so I can introduce a rewrite, I tried downloading Zap. I was first unimpressed by the fact that the distribution tarball contains several temporary editor files (#*# and *~)... The instructions in README.txt state: > Be sure to run the './install' script that comes with Zope so that it > creates a 'Zope.cgi' file in the top level directory. However, I can't find this install script anywhere. Daniel Drucker

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moving from 1.10.2 to 2.0.0a1
by Daniel M. Drucker 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Another newbie question -- how can one upgrade from 1.10.2 to 2.0.0a1 while retaining my data? Hopefully, the documentation will be getting better soon... (Is there a need for documentation editors? I certainly can't *write* docs, as I'm Zope-clueless, but I'm a professional editor and am good at rewriting other people's language to be more understandable.)

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FW: [Zope] (116) unable to connect, fd=3
by Michel Pelletier 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

(forwarding to list, was not CC'ed accidentally) > -----Original Message----- > From: Michel Pelletier > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 12:39 PM > To: 'Tim Hawes'; Michel Pelletier > Subject: RE: [Zope] (116) unable to connect, fd=3 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Hawes [mailto:tim.hawes@ncmail.net] > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 1:03 PM > > To: Michel Pelletier > > Subject: Re: [Zope] (116) unable to connect, fd=3 > > > > > > Michel Pelletier wrote: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tim Hawes [mailto:tim.hawes@ncmail.net] > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:32 AM > > > > To: Michel Pelletier; zope(a)zope.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Zope] (116) unable to connect, fd=3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems to be the bit of code it chokes on: > > > > > > > >  > > > > To: 9198343441.@pagenet.net > > > > From:  > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > But isn't this up to spec? > > > > > > > > > > Nope. You need quotes around the expressions, as in > > expr="". It should > > > raise a syntax error, however. Why this bombs your python > > is unknown, > > > must be a bug of some kind. Put quotes around your > > expressions and try > > > it again. > > > > > > > Nope, didn't work. I wonder if I have stumbled accross a bug. > > I wish I knew > > more of its nature. :-/ > > > > Put just this bit of DTML into a method (lets it's called > 'themethod') somewhere in your root Zope folder. > > *Shut down Zope* > > go to 'Zopedir/lib/python' > > do this: > > [michel@aldous python]$ python > Python 1.5.1 (#2, Jan 26 1999, 10:47:10) [GCC 2.7.2.3] on linux2 > Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam > >>> import ZPublisher, Main > >>> > ZPublisher.Main('themethod?pin=blah&from=blah(a)blah.com&message > =blahblah') > > > 'themethod' should be the name of the method containing the > errant DTML code > > 'pin', 'from', and 'message' should be sensable values that > make your code fail through the web also. > > ZPublisher.Main has the effect of calling 'themethod' just > like a web request would. Something is happening to make > your pcgi connection fail with the Zope long running process, > and thus you cannot see the error that the python process is > giving you. Since pcgi is not involved in this little test, > you will see the error printed on your terminal. It could be > a syntax error, a core dump, an SMTP error that causes > something to get sent to stderr instead of raising an > exception, who knows. Sniff it out. > > -Michel > > > -- > > > > Tim Hawes > > tim.hawes(a)ncmail.net > > > > > > >

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RE: [Zope] (116) unable to connect, fd=3
by Michel Pelletier 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Hawes [mailto:tim.hawes@ncmail.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 10:26 AM > To: 'zope(a)zope.org' > Subject: [Zope] (116) unable to connect, fd=3 > > > I am using Zope 1.10.2 on Solaris 2.6 > I have had Zope running here flawlessly until recently. > > We have a web page called "Who's Who". It queries an Oracle > database to get > a list of people in our department, and hyperlinks pager pin number if > someone wanted to send an e-mail message to one of our pagers > (through Page > Net). Clinking on a pin number that coresponds to one of our > staff members > queries the database again to bring up the staff member name and pin > number, and > brings up a page where the user can then enter who the page > is from and the > message. Then the user hits submit and the data is sent to a > dtml document > with sendmail commands for a pager message to be sent to Page Net. > Sounds cool. > It has worked flawlessly until recently. Now when a user tries to send > their page, they get the following: > > ! Temporarily Unavailable > > The resource you requested is temporarily unavailable - > please try > again later. > (116) unable to connect, fd=3 > > And then pcgi dies. Yes this is a pcgi error. This can happen for a few reasons (Jeff do you know what this error means exactly?) I've had similar errors happen when there are syntax errors in ZPublisher, Python core dumps, and other strange happening. I would try to factor the problem down,  out sections of your code until you find the line that causes the error, and then investigate it's failure from the top down. -Michel > > -- > > Tim Hawes > tim.hawes(a)ncmail.net > >

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RE: [Zope] (116) unable to connect, fd=3
by Michel Pelletier 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Hawes [mailto:tim.hawes@ncmail.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:32 AM > To: Michel Pelletier; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] (116) unable to connect, fd=3 > > > > This seems to be the bit of code it chokes on: > >  > To: 9198343441.@pagenet.net > From:  >  >  > > But isn't this up to spec? > Nope. You need quotes around the expressions, as in expr="". It should raise a syntax error, however. Why this bombs your python is unknown, must be a bug of some kind. Put quotes around your expressions and try it again. BTW,  is the same as  You don't need expr= anymore, it's use is depreciated. If your var argiment is in double quotes, it's an expression. -Michel > -- > > Tim Hawes > tim.hawes(a)ncmail.net > > >

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Any way of entering data into TinyTable via DTML?
by Tony McDonald 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

Hi, I've looked through the source for TinyTable B2 and can't see anything obvious. My requirement is to do a one-time SQL query to a MySQL database (the database content is not very dynamic) and then populate a TinyTree table with the results and use that for lookups later. possible? sensible? TIA Tone

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RE: [Zope] Info on Crash of ZopeHTTPserver
by Chris Petrilli 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

> > I am using web applications in production with > > 1.10.2+ZHTTPserver under RH Linux 5.2 > > > > What can I do to have Zope s own server work > > continuously, without manual re-starts every day? > > Switch to ZServer. Really. ZopeHTTPServer is, um, a tad > flaky. ZServer is > very very nice, and has been rock solid for me for a few > weeks of solid(ish) > use now. This is basically the best answer... we're not planning to make any further changes/additions/fixes to ZopeHTTPServer (which was used instead of Apache in early releases), and it will most likely "go away" within a few releases. It's just a hacked up version of the BaseHTTPServer that comes with Python. It's very slow, though functional. ZServer is probably your best bet, unless you need something that Apache can provide---i.e. SSL, etc. Chris

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